facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old October 1, 2003, 10:47 PM
say's Avatar
say say is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: August 11, 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 637

sham,

fair enough.

I just didn't see how that 'paying off' speculation was put into words. Also, wasn't aware of any curfew.

Overall, these findings, though lengthy, didn't seem like coming from sound cricketing experience. Too bad Pilot had to loose the captaincy because of such a poor, speculative, judgmental set of allegations.
Reply With Quote

  #27  
Old October 1, 2003, 11:14 PM
Zobair's Avatar
Zobair Zobair is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: July 15, 2002
Location: 16th floor
Posts: 4,106

Actually,

Pilot was the captain. A captain leads by example. He certainly did not seem like a good example. There were allegations by senior players against him that he was rude etc. etc. Besides, he had an obvious handicap when it came to bowler rotations and that was criticized time and again by us fans at the time too. All in all, his record as the captain wasn't the greatest except for his own fighting performances in the middle. He certainly failed to inspire ay other player in the team. One of the things that seem to come out from the inquiry and reports surrounding it was that he didnot have good relations with quite a few players.

Anyways, this is in the past. I think the team has moved on. Bringing him back is just not a smart move, considering he is resigned amidst some bad blood between him and the team not too long ago. The wounds must be fresh still. He is a fighter and I have tremendous respect for him as a cricketer and he has some cricket left in him still, but just not as a captain.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old October 1, 2003, 11:46 PM
Sham Sham is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: October 15, 2002
Location: London, UK
Posts: 3,070
Default Say,

I agree with the point you are making. However, if you just saw what the allegations against Pilot were, you would have been amazed. Pilot was my favourite BD player before I was made privy to the transcripts of interviews that the enquiry committee held. Many things were not mentioned, such as the way Pilot behaved with his players. Many of the senior players were not in talking terms with Pilot by the end of the World Cup. So Pilot did not lose his job over "speculative and judgemental" comments! If he did not lose his job, atleast two or three of our senior players would have walked out of the team. The amount of bad blood in the team was just unbelievable and most of it was aimed at Pilot. He just had to go man. And I think even he understood that since he was the one to resign the captaincy. So, he did not technically lose his job, but he would have.

[Edited on 2-10-2003 by Sham]
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old October 1, 2003, 11:48 PM
fwullah's Avatar
fwullah fwullah is offline
First BC Member
 
Join Date: June 20, 2002
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: A successful cricketer
Posts: 6,545
Default Say, you must be an ondho fan of Pilot, like the Prothom Alo reporter is a Rokon fan

Quote:
1) staying out late - isn't that up to individual's choices.

2) dropping 3 'regulation' catches - everyone drops or midfields or miss a easy ball. Is this such a high crime? What’s the point here? Did pilot do it day after day??
1) It was Pilot's choice to bring the name "Bangladesh" down especially not trying to do everything right, for example, staying up late at night before an important match

2) Every player drops 1 or may be 2 catches if he is really under pressure, but 3 catches? In an important match? That is simply ridiculous, also when he's the captain.

In short, the EFFORT was simply not there.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old October 1, 2003, 11:58 PM
say's Avatar
say say is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: August 11, 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 637

Quote:
Say, you must be an ondho fan of Pilot, like the Prothom Alo reporter is a Rokon fan

I'm not a big fan of Pilot.. sorry to disappoint you


The point I am trying to make is, I just don't get some of the mode of thinking of the BCB officials. Their style of management and thinking sometimes spook me to find a resemblance to the PCB style administration.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old October 2, 2003, 12:01 AM
Arnab Arnab is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 20, 2002
Location: BanglaCricket.com
Posts: 6,069

He dropped 3 catches because he stayed up late at night.

Cause and Effect.

Damn matrix quotes.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old October 2, 2003, 04:35 PM
allrounder's Avatar
allrounder allrounder is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: September 4, 2003
Posts: 3,782

If he has attitude problem and communication problem with the players; why is Pilot still in the team?

Did he change his attitude after stepping down as captain or is he working to fix them?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old October 2, 2003, 05:58 PM
Sham Sham is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: October 15, 2002
Location: London, UK
Posts: 3,070
Default If you are not captain,

you don't need to communicate half as much. And you are not in a position of authority so you don't get to dictate people around. If you are rude to a player, he can talk back at you, something a player wouldn't do to a captain. And also, I think captaincy had frustrated the hell out of Pilot, triggering all the problems in the first place. I'm sure he is enjoying life more nowadays.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old October 2, 2003, 07:08 PM
Mahmood's Avatar
Mahmood Mahmood is offline
Administrator
Operations & Administrations
 
Join Date: June 20, 2002
Location: Montreal, Canada
Favorite Player: Mashrafe Mortaza
Posts: 7,809

Pilot was dropped in the middle of the test series right after the WC. That probably sobered him up.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old October 2, 2003, 09:44 PM
Pundit Pundit is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: August 17, 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 3,338

I cannot understand why this discussion has to be so subjective - it is a fact !!

He was gambling till 4 am in the morning prior to a game !

If that's sane by someone, then by GOD you stay away from this board.

Oh, but I forget, its your right to be wrong !!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:58 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket