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Old November 5, 2013, 12:55 AM
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Old February 20, 2014, 08:42 AM
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Why was he dropped? Leading run scorer and one who consolidates the innings in the middle..but no riyads 3 overs and ducks at 7 are more valuable.
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Old February 20, 2014, 08:56 AM
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drop riyad, push shakib down to riyad's spot and bat naeem where shakib has been batting. possibility since shakib just likes to try and hit every ball out of the park these days and shakib is more of a match winner than riyad plus can hit from ball one which riyad can't so he's better suited down there than riyad and batting up the order naeem is the better bat and he's decent with the ball if only a handful of overs are needed naeem could bowl some but we've got nasir who can bowl some overs as well.

actually naeem could take mominul's place, i'm sure we could find someone else for the middle order like shuvagata or sabbir both of those guys can bowl a bit as well. mominul, shakib and riyad are all talented but mominul doesn't seem ready for ODIs yet, shakib is batting like afridi and riyad is in poor form.
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Old February 20, 2014, 09:13 AM
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^Naeems better of in the middle over then up top..he's a failure in 3 or open..he's best at 5 then 4. Personally I'd like him at 5 bat Shak 6 and nasir finish at 7..nasir seems lost when sent in with the team needing consolidation instead of a finish...
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Old February 22, 2014, 07:22 PM
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Naeem looked good initially but then struggled big time.
I'll still appreciate him because he does manage to stick around & build up partnerships, and for a team that can't play all 50 overs he is vital.
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Old February 22, 2014, 08:13 PM
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I do not know why people hate him, but even his slowpokish innnings more often than not see us through to a decent total. take him out of the equation, you will have a high run rate at the expense of a (nine times out of ten) a subpar low score. so fans, take your pick
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Old February 22, 2014, 08:44 PM
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he needs to bat no lower than 4, he was clearly panicking about his strike rate in the 3rd ODI, start him earlier in the innings and he'll stick around long enough to get through that period and then onto accelerating as we've seen that he can do.
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keep up the good work in DPL
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Naeem is doing excellent in DPL this is just great. But the thing is he is not practical and he is not doing it smartly. The way he is playing he is targeting the #4. But both Riyad and Mushy is fighting for this spot so it will be a real tough job for him to grab the position. He will have to adjust according to the need of the team.
1. Best option for him to target the #3 and practice accordingly.
2. He can target #8 again. In that case he will have to improve his bowling and need to improve strike rate in batting.
3. He can target #7 . In that case he will have to improve his strike rate.
The way Naeem is trying, it will be tough to find a spot for him despite domestic performance.
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Don't need dead weights in the worldcup squad. He should aim for test squad.
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Old January 2, 2015, 07:06 PM
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Even hom has started to bat at #3 in some games. I respect naeem's consistency and it's true it's rare in BD but as said he's scoring these runs in the wrong spot to push for squad spot and he's not scoring them quick enough.

We can't afford to select someone who's going to bat at 4 or 5 and strike at 60-70 even if they consistently score runs.

Batting at 3 is generally regarded as more difficult than batting at 4/5 so it is a bit of a jump from doing what he's currently doing in the DPL then expecting him to step up to international cricket at 3 and expect him to replicate or better it. Don't forget he's played quite a few ODIs and hasn't got the best record, experience is good but maybe his current ODI record shows what he's capable of and if that's the case he wouldn't be a good pick.
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Nayeem would be ideal back up player for this WC. Leaving him means performance and consistency in domestic league is not a criteria to be selected in national team. He should be a regular player for Test team. He has a good technique n temperament to play in overseas tours.

Constant igornance to a performer might result a negative impact on upcoming players.
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Old January 3, 2015, 01:32 AM
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Nayeem would be ideal back up player for this WC. Leaving him means performance and consistency in domestic league is not a criteria to be selected in national team. He should be a regular player for Test team. He has a good technique n temperament to play in overseas tours.

Constant igornance to a performer might result a negative impact on upcoming players.
Then litton should be taken, mosaddek did well last season, a couple of bad matches this season shouldn't stop his selection... if you're going off this season guys like liton and even shamsur and imrul have reasons to be selected ahead of naeem, not just because of strike rate but also because of runs scored and consistency all combined.

Strike rate has to be within the criteria when selecting for shorter formats, select naeem and you're saying a 60 strike rate in one dayers is fine as long as you score decent runs but the reality is it isn't good enough so the standard shouldn't be dropped and it would be when picking naeem because of the strike rate.

We want a batsman who can average 35 and strike at 80+ are we confident naeem can do this in the World Cup?
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bangla cricket fans are weird. they hate some players for no reason. first started with kapali, then ashraful and now new victim is naeem (for no reason)

lets analyze his match by match performances in DPL

source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...mplate=results

match 1: mohamedan : total run 145: naeem batted #3--run45 (run rate not important--when team all out for that low score. bowling : economy 3.00 wit 1

source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/dhaka-pr...ch/798187.html

match 2: mohamedan: 282, naeem : 92, batted #4,strike rate:83.63, bowling 1 wkt, economy:4.33
source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/dhaka-pr...8203.html--MOM

match 3: mohamedan 259, naeem: 52,batted #4, SR: 62, bowling: 1 wit economy: 2.90 MOM

match 4: mohamedan 64, naeem 3, batted #4, bowling: wkt 3, economy 3.10

match 5: mohamedan 185, naeem: 56 not out, batted #4, SR: does it matter when team total is that low
bowling: economy 2.80, wkt 1
source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...mplate=results

match 6: mohamedan 250, first match where top 4 wkt didn't fall cheaply: naeem batted #5, score 51. Strike rate 108.51, bowling 1wkt, economy: 3.66
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/801143.html

match 7: mohamedan all out 184, naeem batted at 5, score 16, SR: 40 (score says all)

match 8: mohamedan 185 allout, naeem 57, run rate: 58.16, bowling: wit 3, economy 2.33 MOM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/dhaka-pr...ch/805035.html

match 9: mohamedan 313, first match where mashrafe was captain, naeem batted at #8, face 1 ball, 1 not out, bowling: naeem 1 wit, economy 4.60

match 10: mohamedan batted 2nd, score 177,naeem 31 not out, SR: 110.71

match 11: naeem batted #4, score 7, 1 wit

match 12: mohamedan total 240, first 3 wit fell cheaply, naeem 51, strike rate 52.04, captain mashrafe didn't use him as a bowler
http://www.espncricinfo.com/dhaka-pr...ch/812545.html

match 13: mohamedan total 137, naeem batted #4, score 56, SR:70, again all top 3 wkt fell cheaply
bowling 3 wkt, economy 3.46

match 14: mohamedan 208, top 3 wkt didn't fell cheaply, naeem scored 76, At batting position 4, Strike rate: 107.04, bowling 2 wkt, economy: 5.40.MOM

match 15: naeem score 0, mohamedan 210, bowling: 1 wkt, economy 3.70


he single handedly played for mohamedan and took it to super league. all the match mohamedan won--he was MOM, except 1, where alauddin babu is MOM

his strike rate is high--when top 3 score didn't fell cheaply, which was very rare in mohamedan scenario, so he played the innings building innings and most of the time he batted in first 10 over


among all batsman: he is # 3--594 runs, average 59.40, with 8 half century and MOM for most mohamedan win
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/dhaka-...ype=tournament

among bowler: he is #11, match 15, wkt: 19, average: 17.89--above excellent (note: he didn't bowl in every match, some matches he bowled only few overs, some matches he didn't bowl, except 1 match--he was never wktless)

he is the lone star in fragile mohamedan team, so respect his dedication and stop hating him
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Then litton should be taken, mosaddek did well last season, a couple of bad matches this season shouldn't stop his selection... if you're going off this season guys like liton and even shamsur and imrul have reasons to be selected ahead of naeem, not just because of strike rate but also because of runs scored and consistency all combined.

Strike rate has to be within the criteria when selecting for shorter formats, select naeem and you're saying a 60 strike rate in one dayers is fine as long as you score decent runs but the reality is it isn't good enough so the standard shouldn't be dropped and it would be when picking naeem because of the strike rate.

We want a batsman who can average 35 and strike at 80+ are we confident naeem can do this in the World Cup?

Most runs
Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
Rony Talukdar 15 15 2 651 132* 50.07 798 81.57 2 2 1 63 22
(Prime Doleshwar Sporting Club)
Litton Das 15 15 0 647 108 43.13 695 93.09 1 5 0 86 12
(Abahani Limited)
Naeem Islam 15 15 5 594 92 59.40 895 66.36 0 8 1 41 6
(Mohammedan Sporting Club)
Jahurul Islam 15 15 0 528 95 35.20 749 70.49 0 5 0 39 7
(Legends of Rupganj)
Mehedi Maruf 15 15 1 519 118* 37.07 608 85.36 2 2 0 58 13
(Prime Doleshwar Sporting Club)
Soumya Sarkar 14 14 0 518 127 37.00 660 78.48 1 3 1 50 12
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Mahmudul Hasan 15 15 0 504 82 33.60 767 65.71 0 6 0 44 4
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
DJ Malan 15 13 4 495 87* 55.00 787 62.89 0 3 0 31 7
(Prime Doleshwar Sporting Club)
Nasir Hossain 15 14 4 495 104 49.50 584 84.76 1 3 0 44 15
(Abahani Limited)
Ashar Zaidi 12 12 2 475 141 47.50 490 96.93 1 1 0 49 14
(Legends of Rupganj)
Shamsur Rahman 13 12 0 461 82 38.41 650 70.92 0 4 1 51 5
(Kalabagan Krira Chakra)
Ariful Haque 15 14 2 461 109 38.41 567 81.30 1 2 1 29 13
(Mohammedan Sporting Club)
Saikat Ali 15 15 1 450 90 32.14 636 70.75 0 2 1 44 14
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Mehrab Hossain jnr 13 13 2 445 65 40.45 746 59.65 0 5 0 39 5
(Partex Sporting Club)
Raqibul Hasan 14 14 2 441 83 36.75 599 73.62 0 2 0 41 4
(Abahani Limited)
Rajin Saleh 13 13 1 419 107* 34.91 708 59.18 2 1 1 43 6
(Partex Sporting Club)
Ezaz Ahmed 14 14 0 389 136 27.78 520 74.80 1 2 1 36 18
(Mohammedan Sporting Club)
Mohammad Mithun 14 14 0 389 83 27.78 449 86.63 0 3 0 38 13
(Mohammedan Sporting Club)
Sabbir Rahman 10 10 0 385 83 38.50 397 96.97 0 3 1 29 16
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
Junaid Siddique 14 14 0 371 91 26.50 583 63.63 0 2 1 34 4
(Legends of Rupganj)
CK Kapugedera 5 5 2 365 161* 121.66 369 98.91 2 1 0 37 11
(Victoria Sporting Club)
Shadman Islam 12 11 0 363 69 33.00 622 58.36 0 3 0 35 0
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Taibur Rahman 15 15 4 363 77 33.00 459 79.08 0 2 1 31 7
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Nadif Chowdhury 11 8 1 340 83 48.57 499 68.13 0 3 0 21 9
(Victoria Sporting Club)
Irfan Sukkur 13 13 1 331 80 27.58 527 62.80 0 2 0 34 1
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
Avishek Mitra 11 11 1 330 101* 33.00 473 69.76 1 2 0 38 2
(Brothers Union)
Abdul Mazid 13 13 1 330 58 27.50 680 48.52 0 2 0 35 1
(Abahani Limited)
Shahriar Nafees 11 11 1 326 89 32.60 518 62.93 0 3 2 33 4
(Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi Club)
Maisuqur Rahman 10 10 1 319 87 35.44 515 61.94 0 3 1 40 1
(Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi Club)
Imtiaz Hossain 13 13 0 316 64 24.30 448 70.53 0 2 2 37 6
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
Shuvagata Hom 12 12 1 302 51* 27.45 346 87.28 0 1 1 33 3
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Tasamul Haque 13 11 2 297 60* 33.00 460 64.56 0 1 1 23 4
(Kalabagan Krira Chakra)
Shanaj Ahmed 12 12 0 289 72 24.08 459 62.96 0 3 1 36 3
(Old DOHS Sports Club)
Alok Kapali 15 15 2 285 51* 21.92 424 67.21 0 1 0 20 2
(Legends of Rupganj)
Mosharraf Hossain 14 12 1 275 80 25.00 433 63.51 0 1 0 29 5
(Legends of Rupganj)
Nafees Iqbal 12 12 0 275 70 22.91 440 62.50 0 2 1 24 4
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
Tushar Imran 10 10 0 272 72 27.20 465 58.49 0 2 1 27 2
(Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi Club)
Mahbubul Karim 10 10 0 263 68 26.30 327 80.42 0 2 0 37 4
(Victoria Sporting Club)
Nihaduzzaman 13 13 1 263 54* 21.91 437 60.18 0 1 0 13 8
(Old DOHS Sports Club)
Nurul Hasan 12 11 4 260 41 37.14 255 101.96 0 0 0 26 6
(Prime Bank Cricket Club)
Nazimuddin 10 10 0 257 68 25.70 438 58.67 0 3 0 24 2
(Brothers Union)
Asif Ahmed 15 11 1 251 63 25.10 408 61.51 0 2 1 19 2
(Prime Doleshwar Sporting Club)
Mehedy Hasan 15 14 0 251 41 17.92 364 68.95 0 0 1 19 2
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
Marshall Ayub 10 10 2 243 72* 30.37 411 59.12 0 2 0 20 3
(Victoria Sporting Club)
Nazmul Hossain Shanto 14 14 2 241 46* 20.08 299 80.60 0 0 0 19 4
(Kalabagan Cricket Academy)
LA Dawson 8 8 2 236 113* 39.33 274 86.13 1 1 2 11 12
(Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi Club)
Amit Majumder 11 11 0 230 51 20.90 391 58.82 0 1 0 21 6
(Sheikh Jamal Dhanmondi Club)
Shakib Al Hasan 8 8 1 222 49 31.71 208 106.73 0 0 0 22 8
(Legends of Rupganj)
Nazmul Hossain Milon 15 12 0 222 42 18.50 217 102.30 0 0 0 12 12
(Legends of Rupganj)
Dhiman Ghosh 10 8 2 220 87* 36.66 318 69.18 0 1 0 20 6


where is imrul kayes--- i don't see him anywhere here
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Then litton should be taken, mosaddek did well last season, a couple of bad matches this season shouldn't stop his selection... if you're going off this season guys like liton and even shamsur and imrul have reasons to be selected ahead of naeem, not just because of strike rate but also because of runs scored and consistency all combined.

Strike rate has to be within the criteria when selecting for shorter formats, select naeem and you're saying a 60 strike rate in one dayers is fine as long as you score decent runs but the reality is it isn't good enough so the standard shouldn't be dropped and it would be when picking naeem because of the strike rate.

We want a batsman who can average 35 and strike at 80+ are we confident naeem can do this in the World Cup?

Dude how many players have 80plus SR with 35 + average ?? You sound like who have some issues with Nayeem. .lol if this WC would play in subcontinent I won't take him. He is an experienced campaign er and this is really different ball game in aussie. Liton is an opner only but Nayeem is a multi skilled player and can replace anyone from 3-6 ( if someone injuries).

Some people here go by emotions not understand the condition s and the big picture
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Max you sound more realistic and speak with some evidences. TBH nayeem might not be selected as many ppl have negative impression about him.
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i think naeem won't be selected but it will be a big mistake. i am not saying, he must be in main XI, although he deserve to be there but i think he should be in top 15.
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Naeem has proved nothing at #3 and doesn't score quick enough to bat other positions anyway. Why is it ok to say naeem can bat 3-6, he rarely if at all bats 3. I don't see why liton can't bat anywhere in the top 7 if naeem can bat 3-6. Liton is a top 3 batsman but scores quick enough to bat middle and lower order.

I'm not a naeem hater, just think we have better options, imo you can't ignore his low strike rate, that's the primary reason why I think he shouldn't be selected, he has a poor strike rate and because I point that out I'm considered a hater?

I've been a strong naeem supporter for years, at one stage he was my favourite BD player.
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Naeem has proved nothing at #3 and doesn't score quick enough to bat other positions anyway. Why is it ok to say naeem can bat 3-6, he rarely if at all bats 3. I don't see why liton can't bat anywhere in the top 7 if naeem can bat 3-6. Liton is a top 3 batsman but scores quick enough to bat middle and lower order.

I'm not a naeem hater, just think we have better options, imo you can't ignore his low strike rate, that's the primary reason why I think he shouldn't be selected, he has a poor strike rate and because I point that out I'm considered a hater?

I've been a strong naeem supporter for years, at one stage he was my favourite BD player.
his team was the worst team, most of the time team all out below 150 and naeem was batting alone. plus his strike rate was 100 plus, when one of top order make some runs.

every match won by his team, he is selected MOM.even though he batted at number 4, but because there is no contribution from top order, he batted within first 10 overs

he batted according to situation plus according to team needs, so don't blame him for low SR. he had couple 100 plus strike too

our team is not much experienced: except tamim, shakib, mushfiq, mahmudullah, mashrafe. Liton das could be a good addition but no experience .

liton das played for abahoni and abalone have good , inform and strong line up compare to mohamedan

abahoni: abdul majid (330 runs), nasir hossain (super form), farad hossain(proven domestic player), LPC silva (sl recruit),raqibul hasan, ziaur (wc probable 30), mosaddek (upcoming player), plus bowlers like saqlain, al amin, subhashis roy, jubair hossain to back him up

on the other side mohamedan: ejaj, mithun, sayem, tanvir haider, ariful, mashrafe, rahatul, sajedul , amit kumar

if he batted to slow--he won't be man of the match for most mohamedan win. he batted according to match situation
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his team was the worst team, most of the time team all out below 150 and naeem was batting alone. plus his strike rate was 100 plus, when one of top order make some runs.

every match won by his team, he is selected MOM.even though he batted at number 4, but because there is no contribution from top order, he batted within first 10 overs

he batted according to situation plus according to team needs, so don't blame him for low SR. he had couple 100 plus strike too
I'm sorry but it's not like batsmen don't have to play in those situations, the quality ones still try to find a way to have a decent strike rate. Great he has a couple of innings of strike rate 100+ but his tournament strike rate is a more telling statistic imo, don't forget ODIs are a step up.
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Liton has scored about 50 more runs in the tournament in the same amount if innings with a strike rate of almost 30 points greater than naeem. Naeem's tournament strike rate is 66, like I said I respect his run scoring but think the strike rate needs to he higher for him to get on the plane to Australia, especially considering he's so experienced.

Just my opinion, and he's not far off btw, certainly there are worse picks than naeem.
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Naeem has proved nothing at #3 and doesn't score quick enough to bat other positions anyway. Why is it ok to say naeem can bat 3-6, he rarely if at all bats 3. I don't see why liton can't bat anywhere in the top 7 if naeem can bat 3-6. Liton is a top 3 batsman but scores quick enough to bat middle and lower order.

I'm not a naeem hater, just think we have better options, imo you can't ignore his low strike rate, that's the primary reason why I think he shouldn't be selected, he has a poor strike rate and because I point that out I'm considered a hater?

I've been a strong naeem supporter for years, at one stage he was my favourite BD player.
LOL you are not a Nayeem hater? Everywhere you are putting nayeem down mate. If the exactly same DPL performance would have done by shamsu kayes nasir or mominul
ppl would rally in the street to include him in the WC. But the irony of fate this is Nayeem .....
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Old January 3, 2015, 10:17 AM
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his team was the worst team, most of the time team all out below 150 and naeem was batting alone. plus his strike rate was 100 plus, when one of top order make some runs.

every match won by his team, he is selected MOM.even though he batted at number 4, but because there is no contribution from top order, he batted within first 10 overs

he batted according to situation plus according to team needs, so don't blame him for low SR. he had couple 100 plus strike too

our team is not much experienced: except tamim, shakib, mushfiq, mahmudullah, mashrafe. Liton das could be a good addition but no experience .

liton das played for abahoni and abalone have good , inform and strong line up compare to mohamedan

abahoni: abdul majid (330 runs), nasir hossain (super form), farad hossain(proven domestic player), LPC silva (sl recruit),raqibul hasan, ziaur (wc probable 30), mosaddek (upcoming player), plus bowlers like saqlain, al amin, subhashis roy, jubair hossain to back him up

on the other side mohamedan: ejaj, mithun, sayem, tanvir haider, ariful, mashrafe, rahatul, sajedul , amit kumar

if he batted to slow--he won't be man of the match for most mohamedan win. he batted according to match situation
good analysis. .can't agree more
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He is a proven failure in ODI format. His name shouldnt even be in discussion of the final squad esp when the tournamet is being held in aus. He is perfect for longer version format though.

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