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Old November 6, 2013, 06:48 AM
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Who is the most successful ODI captain for Bangladesh? Someone asked. Here's the answer. Courtesy HowSTAT!

Stats current as of the third ODI of this NZ tour.

PlayerFirst MatchLast MatchMatWonLostTiedToss
1Gazi Ashraf31/03/198630/04/199070 (0.00%)7 (100.00%)0 (0.00%)1 (14.29%)
2Minhajul Abedin25/12/199031/12/199020 (0.00%)2 (100.00%)0 (0.00%)1 (50.00%)
3Akram Khan05/04/199525/05/1998151 (6.67%)14 (93.33%)0 (0.00%)7 (46.67%)
4Aminul Islam14/05/199802/06/2000162 (12.50%)14 (87.50%)0 (0.00%)5 (31.25%)
5Naimuir Rahman05/10/200011/04/200140 (0.00%)4 (100.00%)0 (0.00%)3 (75.00%)
6Khaled Mashud23/11/200115/08/2006304 (13.33%)24 (80.00%)0 (0.00%)14 (46.67%)
7Khaled Mahmud11/04/200312/11/2003150 (0.00%)15 (100.00%)0 (0.00%)6 (40.00%)
8Habibul Bashar10/03/200412/05/20076929 (42.03%)40 (57.97%)0 (0.00%)31 (44.93%)
9Rajin Saleh12/09/200415/09/200420 (0.00%)2 (100.00%)0 (0.00%)2 (100.00%)
10Mohammad Ashraful**20/07/200723/01/2009388 (21.05%)30 (78.95%)0 (0.00%)25 (65.79%)
11Shakib Al Hasan*26/07/200921/08/20114722 (46.81%)25 (53.19%)0 (0.00%)19 (40.43%)
12Mashrafe Bin Mortaza*08/07/201005/10/201073 (42.86%)4 (57.14%)0 (0.00%)3 (42.86%)
13Mushfiqur Rahim*13/10/201103/11/20132411 (45.83%)12 (50.00%)0 (0.00%)13 (54.17%)
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Old November 6, 2013, 06:50 AM
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Ash was a betting man. Look at his toss winning percentage. The jury is out between Shak and Mushy.
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Old November 6, 2013, 06:54 AM
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i would say shak is the best on field captain and mushy is the best off field, shak's team was weaker then mushy's though

shak was the worst off field captain though and mushy is the worse on field
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Old November 6, 2013, 07:07 AM
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I think overall Mushy is the best captain for us right now . At least there is no off field issues and the bonding of the team is better
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Old November 6, 2013, 07:17 AM
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For team unity and development mushy is the best captain, yes sometimes he has brain failures on field.
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Old November 6, 2013, 07:50 AM
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This stats are irrelevant when it comes to judge captaincy because our team has improved over time but I am pretty sure that was not the point if of the OP

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Old November 6, 2013, 08:00 AM
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So far, its Mushy.
Period.
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Old November 6, 2013, 08:14 AM
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One comment: best != successful.

Successful is statistical and quantitative.
Best is subjective and qualitative.

The table is a purely statistical rendering and does not in anyway convey "best ness".
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Old November 6, 2013, 09:09 AM
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For almost same time periods.....Mushfiqur has captained only half the matches that Shakib has done? Wow we are playing lesser and lesser.
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Old November 6, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Thought Mushy would have much better stats.
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Old November 6, 2013, 03:45 PM
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Shakib's number is a bit skewed because we played a lot against Zim + series against weak WI

Shakib Win
ZIM 13
WI 3
NZ 3
IRE 1
END 1
NED 1
Total 22
Against G8 (minus weak WI) Win Ratio = 0.24

Mushfiq Win
ZIM 1
WI 4
NZ 3
IND 1
SL 2
Total 11
Against G8 Win Ratio = 0.476

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Thing is we have started to win consistently against the top teams. We beat full strength WI 4 times, SL 2 times and now NZ 3 times. I think the improvement started from the end of Shakib's tenure and then curve is going now under Mushy.
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Old November 6, 2013, 03:52 PM
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Based on performance vs. G8, Mushy is the most successful captain. How much of that is down to his captaincy vs. general player development and the better quality of new squad members (e.g. Gazi, Nasir) is debatable.
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Old November 6, 2013, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
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One comment: best != successful.

Successful is statistical and quantitative.
Best is subjective and qualitative.

The table is a purely statistical rendering and does not in anyway convey "best ness".
MAK Pataudi was one of the best captain, despite his record. Don Bradman was one of the best and the most successful captain. Pilot was a good captain, despite his record. Mushfiq could become much better if he seeks help from good tacticians in the team.
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Old November 6, 2013, 04:45 PM
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So Rajin Saleh is the luckiest captain ever..., i say bring him back
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Old November 6, 2013, 04:55 PM
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Bashars record isnt bad considering the talent our team had to offer and the number of matches he was responsible for.
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Old November 6, 2013, 09:18 PM
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For almost same time periods.....Mushfiqur has captained only half the matches that Shakib has done? Wow we are playing lesser and lesser.
yeah, I think it has something to do with 58 and 78 all out in World cup at HOME
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Old November 6, 2013, 09:44 PM
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How the hell ash has 65.79% toss wins after playing that many matches?? This guy made a deal with the devil or something...
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Old November 6, 2013, 10:16 PM
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Mushfiq has been groomed for captaincy for a long time. If you go back to the u-19 days of 2004 -05 Mushfiq was the captain of the U-19 team that had Tamim, Shakib, Shuvo (Shamsur), Shuvo(Sohrawardy), Roqibul, Zia et al. He even captained the BKSP team before that.
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Old November 7, 2013, 05:21 PM
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we have better cricketers now; but that is in bangladesh. we have to see thier potential in overseas conditions (non- subcontinental wickets). this being said, i think gazi will make it anywhere. his bowling is right up there with the best- he reminds of johan botha: can bowl and can bat.Mominul's biggest test is out of subcontinent. nasir can make it anywhere. shamsur rahman needs more matches and IMHO shoukd have played in all of the matches in this series, Naeem is slowly coming back into team,. rubel needs to be nutured, he should only play ODIs for now.
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Old November 9, 2013, 04:05 PM
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shakib wasn't all that good of a captain, he used to be excellent when things went our way, but as soon as things went wrong, he would shout and get frustrated by the fact no one could do what he could, it didnt bode well for the team.

Rahim whilst tactically isn't the best, he gets his team to play for him, in a tough situation he can lift the players, end of the day a good leader is one who can get the people behind him to play for him; mushy can, shakib couldn't - in his mind as a captain he could do it on his own, hence against the bigger teams we didn't play all that well - also we had no nasir.

For me Mortaza would have been the best had he remained fit, he could lift the teams spirit very well, whilst tactically he was quite decent also.
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Old November 10, 2013, 11:46 PM
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After mushfiq reaches 47 matches being a captain, his winning % will most likely surpass Shakib.

The reason behind this is mostly because - A CAPTAIN IS AS GOOD AS HIS TEAM.

When Shak was captaining, we had more deadwood then not. Today, we have less deadwood in the team.

Even though I don't like Mushy's captaincy, he does make some horrendous decisions sometimes, he is still a TEAM PLAYER and keeps his head cool. When Shak was captaining, I felt that he used to get more angry, didn't know how to control his emotion.
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Old November 11, 2013, 02:31 AM
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Godzilla made a point. Shakib used to get frustrated at his teammates but that happens when you are surrounded by some lazy bums. I remember during a series in 2011 against Australia, a ball went to third man who felt so lazy that he stopped the ball with his foot and moved forward. The Australian batsman where smart enough to complete another run. On the other hand there was someone who uses to block full tosses. A batsman who is going to write a novel named : The 100 ways to edge the ball. An opener/no. 3 whose technique was so weird it gave many cancer. Add to that, 2 finishers who did not want to hit a six even if their life depended upon it.

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Old November 11, 2013, 03:49 PM
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Ash was a betting man. Look at his toss winning percentage. The jury is out between Shak and Mushy.
Can we get Ash back just for doing the toss?
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