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Old April 20, 2014, 11:41 PM
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The comments in this thread say why the psychologist will fail. We do not have the culture of taking a psychologist seriously. Senior players like Tamim, Shakib, Razzak, Mushy are not curable. The juniors will also follow them. Mr. Pont's comment is the reality.

We the fans can continue blaming the authority for everything, for every step they take, good or bad we do not care to think about. Everything we want is some arbitrary chopping and changing. And in that way we expect some miracle to happen.
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Old April 21, 2014, 05:04 AM
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Any chance this psychologist is a relative of Papon :P
No ... The psychologist is Papon himself
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The comments in this thread say why the psychologist will fail. We do not have the culture of taking a psychologist seriously. Senior players like Tamim, Shakib, Razzak, Mushy are not curable. The juniors will also follow them. Mr. Pont's comment is the reality.

We the fans can continue blaming the authority for everything, for every step they take, good or bad we do not care to think about. Everything we want is some arbitrary chopping and changing. And in that way we expect some miracle to happen.
I have to disagree here. If the news was

"Inauguration of first bouncy pitched ground in the country" or
"McInnes retained, BCB appoints new high profile coach [Put someone of your choice]"

reaction would have not been similar.
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Old April 21, 2014, 09:58 PM
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But thats not happening and wont be happening for a while will it?
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Old April 24, 2014, 09:42 PM
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বাংলাদেশ দলের খেলোয়াড়দের মানসিক শক্তি বাড়াতেই আজহার আলীর শরণ নিল বিসিবি

ক্রিকেটারদের মনের ‘চিকিৎসা’




সমালোচনা থেকে খুঁজে নিতে হবে অনুপ্রেরণা, লক্ষ্য হতে হবে বিস্তৃত—মিরপুরে কাল আজহার আলী খান শোনালেন সফল হওয়ার মন্ত্র । সৌজন্য ছবিপ্রথমে শুনে একটু ভয়ই পেয়ে গিয়েছিলেন ক্রিকেটারদের অনেকে। সাত ঘণ্টা ধরে একজন মানুষের বকবকানি শুনতে হবে! এর চেয়ে বিরক্তিকর আর কী হতে পারে?

বিস্ময়কর হলেও সত্যি, মিরপুরের একাডেমি ভবনের কনফারেন্স রুমে কাল সেই সাত ঘণ্টা পার হয়ে গেল চোখের পলকে। একই সঙ্গে ৩৬০ ডিগ্রি ঘুরে গেল খেলোয়াড়দের মন। কথা শোনার ব্যাপারে তাঁদের আগ্রহটা এখন এই পর্যায়ে যে, আজ ও কাল শেষ দুই দিনে সেশনের সময় বাড়াতে হয়েছে দুই ঘণ্টা করে।

নিজেকে ‘লাইফ সাকসেস কোচ’ হিসেবে পরিচয় দিতেই স্বচ্ছন্দ বোধ করেন কানাডা-প্রবাসী বাংলাদেশি আজহার আলী খান। বিকেএসপির সাবেক ছাত্র একসময় ছিলেন বাংলাদেশ জাতীয় টেনিস দলের কোচ। এ ছাড়া ইংল্যান্ডের বেডফোর্ডশায়ার টেনিস ক্লাবেও ছিলেন কোচের দায়িত্বে। বর্তমানে কর্মরত কানাডার টরন্টো ক্রিকেট, স্কেটিং ও কার্লিং ক্লাবে।

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Old April 24, 2014, 10:31 PM
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Some interesting snippets from the DS Article

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/p...lukewarm-21464

The extent of a three-day workshop's impact may be questioned. “Maybe not. The first job is to educate and then the second job is to achieve. We started the first bit and the board will definitely think about its continuation and someone may continue it. I have lot of commitments in Canada but I still have passion for my country,” said Ali.

The BCB however has no clear idea about what they want to do with the programme and they did not sign any deal with Ali and it was also not sure whether the Bangladeshi expatriate will be paid for the sessions.

“Let's see what happens with the players after the three-day programme. We are still not sure whether we will make any deal with him (Ali Khan). We will take the feedback from the players and also discuss the matter in the board,” said an unsure Akram Khan, BCB's cricket operations committee chairman."


So he wont get paid? And as always Akram Khan clueless.
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Old April 25, 2014, 02:24 AM
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বাংলাদেশ দলের খেলোয়াড়দের মানসিক শক্তি বাড়াতেই আজহার আলীর শরণ নিল বিসিবি

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সাত ঘণ্টা ধরে একজন মানুষের বকবকানি শুনতে হবে! এর চেয়ে বিরক্তিকর আর কী হতে পারে?

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Old April 25, 2014, 02:54 PM
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A lot of us said before on how a sports psychologist would help our players. This should be implemented even before they play in the U19's forget about the national team. Because as we know, it's not a talent problem with our players, it's mostly the mental part that's difference between us and the other Test nations. I wonder if BCB will ever hire a psychologist for the long term though
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Old April 25, 2014, 03:01 PM
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Some interesting snippets from the DS Article

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/p...lukewarm-21464

The extent of a three-day workshop's impact may be questioned. “Maybe not. The first job is to educate and then the second job is to achieve. We started the first bit and the board will definitely think about its continuation and someone may continue it. I have lot of commitments in Canada but I still have passion for my country,” said Ali.

The BCB however has no clear idea about what they want to do with the programme and they did not sign any deal with Ali and it was also not sure whether the Bangladeshi expatriate will be paid for the sessions.

“Let's see what happens with the players after the three-day programme. We are still not sure whether we will make any deal with him (Ali Khan). We will take the feedback from the players and also discuss the matter in the board,” said an unsure Akram Khan, BCB's cricket operations committee chairman."


So he wont get paid? And as always Akram Khan clueless.

Akram is more of a corrupted guy than a clueless guy. I have no respect for him whatsoever. He's busy laundering loads of money while ruining BD cricket at the same time. if you don't believe me, you can read about it on the online newspapers (i.e., New Age, PA, etc.). This is why they didn't fire Jurgensen and his clueless staff. Hiring a high profile and competent coach would mean spending more money for their part (the directors and the BCB as a whole).
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Old April 25, 2014, 11:04 PM
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A lot of us said before on how a sports psychologist would help our players. This should be implemented even before they play in the U19's forget about the national team. Because as we know, it's not a talent problem with our players, it's mostly the mental part that's difference between us and the other Test nations. I wonder if BCB will ever hire a psychologist for the long term though
It ll certainly help but this should be a long term job not 2-3 sessions.

And besides this is supposed to be one of the main responsibilities of a head coach. Motivating players, giving confidence, developing good habits, continous learning and improvement. This is what Richard McIness, and Alistair de Winter did with the Under 19 players and hence our best generation including Shakib, Mushfiq etc.
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Akram is more of a corrupted guy than a clueless guy. I have no respect for him whatsoever. He's busy laundering loads of money while ruining BD cricket at the same time.
Your saying that KFC Chachu uses his KFC franchise as a money laundering business? He doesn't just use KFC for food? Oh no my life has been a lie !
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Old April 26, 2014, 06:54 PM
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Hey Everyone, looks like we might have a new coach. Jurgensen is "thinking about his own future" after some BCB directors pushing for a new head coach ahead of Monday's meeting in Mirpur. Please read:

Jurgensen's Bangladesh future uncertain

Shane Jurgensen, the Bangladesh head coach, faces an uncertain future with some BCB directors wanting a new man with international experience to take charge of the team ahead of the World Cup as the fallout from Bangladesh's woeful World T20 campaign continues. However, the situation could yet be taken out of the BCB's hands with Jurgensen saying he is considering his own future.

"Some of the directors are trying to find a head coach who is more batting oriented," the source said. "We are trying to find a high-profile coach but they are hard to find in this market. We are targeting the 2015 World Cup, so we must have one by June....

"The board would want to make changes after a debacle. It is almost like a rule around the world. We need the right people in place, and that could be consultants who will remedy technical and mental blocks. For the time being, [Shane Jurgensen] will probably stay because we are leaning towards finding more specialists, like former international stars to help us in specific areas." ...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...ry/739783.html
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jurgs did mention the conditions given to him arent being suitable from him and thats why he's thinking about leaving. thats sad.
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It ll certainly help but this should be a long term job not 2-3 sessions.

And besides this is supposed to be one of the main responsibilities of a head coach. Motivating players, giving confidence, developing good habits, continous learning and improvement. This is what Richard McIness, and Alistair de Winter did with the Under 19 players and hence our best generation including Shakib, Mushfiq etc.
I agree it needs to be long term and not just 3 days. We'll see progress if we implement a psychologist for a long period of time.

Also agree that the coach needs to be able to motivate the players better. Dav Whatmore really changed the attitude also of our team. Siddons was also pretty good. We need a coach that can motivate our players through the tough times
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jurgs did mention the conditions given to him arent being suitable from him and thats why he's thinking about leaving. thats sad.
I'm sure he knew that when he took the job. Pybus left the job right in front of his eyes. This "working condition" is not a surprise for him.
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I agree it needs to be long term and not just 3 days. We'll see progress if we implement a psychologist for a long period of time.

Also agree that the coach needs to be able to motivate the players better. Dav Whatmore really changed the attitude also of our team. Siddons was also pretty good. We need a coach that can motivate our players through the tough times
fummy thing, whatmore was a vrry chill guy. but siddons on the other hand is straight up aggressive. who worked better?
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fummy thing, whatmore was a vrry chill guy. but siddons on the other hand is straight up aggressive. who worked better?
Both had different styles for sure and both were successful. Hard to say really who was better though.
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Whatmore seemed to be cool and relaxed. Met him in person, saw him interact with both Bangladesh and Pakistan players (During his stint as coach). Very nice, soft spoken, approachable person.

But he is very finicky, and attention to detail oriented. His presence, authority is felt immediately. He commands instant respect. Whatmore's stint with us helped us overall. But i think Siddons tenure made a huge difference to our batting. Guys who would probably average 20-25 all of a sudden became 30 batsmen. If he was around for a while, i am pretty sure the improvement chart would have gone up. I agree in a way with BCB. We do need a batting oriented head coach. Someone who has the power and authority to build the team around its batting, which is really its main strength at the end of the day.
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Hey Everyone, looks like we might have a new coach. Jurgensen is "thinking about his own future" after some BCB directors pushing for a new head coach ahead of Monday's meeting in Mirpur. Please read:

Jurgensen's Bangladesh future uncertain

Shane Jurgensen, the Bangladesh head coach, faces an uncertain future with some BCB directors wanting a new man with international experience to take charge of the team ahead of the World Cup as the fallout from Bangladesh's woeful World T20 campaign continues. However, the situation could yet be taken out of the BCB's hands with Jurgensen saying he is considering his own future.

"Some of the directors are trying to find a head coach who is more batting oriented," the source said. "We are trying to find a high-profile coach but they are hard to find in this market. We are targeting the 2015 World Cup, so we must have one by June....

"The board would want to make changes after a debacle. It is almost like a rule around the world. We need the right people in place, and that could be consultants who will remedy technical and mental blocks. For the time being, [Shane Jurgensen] will probably stay because we are leaning towards finding more specialists, like former international stars to help us in specific areas." ...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...ry/739783.html
This is good news. Glad some directors are pressuring for change. It might make things easier for us if SJ quits himself. If BCB can allocate USD 20K a month for a head coach, the hunt shouldnt be as difficult as they think. There will be plenty of quality coaches willing to work for a figure like that. Better to hire a solid coach than 4-5 low budget appointments.
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The next step should be that our players should consult with Pathologist with thier stool samples. So that the Pathologist can analyse what they are eating and give some suggestion. They looked soo lethergic with their fielding, they must be eating wrong food.
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...নিজেকে ‘লাইফ সাকসেস কোচ’ হিসেবে পরিচয় দিতেই স্বচ্ছন্দ বোধ করেন কানাডা-প্রবাসী বাংলাদেশি আজহার আলী খান। .... বর্তমানে কর্মরত কানাডার টরন্টো ক্রিকেট, স্কেটিং ও কার্লিং ক্লাবে।

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The next step should be that our players should consult with Pathologist with thier stool samples. So that the Pathologist can analyse what they are eating and give some suggestion. They looked soo lethergic with their fielding, they must be eating wrong food.
Hehehehe...is this for real?? Right you are mamaji, look at these young men, anemic naki? fakashey dekhacche keno? AAr shob shamner row-te boshchey "chegiye chegiye"...what is this? It tells me you either have,
a. attitude problem
b. you are a complete beydob
c. you are a chega, what else!

Arekta dekhun (shada pants), who is this? haat dekhun pura middle stump-er upor....hehehe..what is this?? ..."chulubulu"??? while listening to the red shoe wearing psychologist?? Only Mominul looks serious and focused.
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red shoe diaries...thats how you know you are a badax
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