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Old March 23, 2015, 12:14 PM
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In my humble opinion:

1. Sledging is bad... celebration is not(even if it may looked too much to opponent fans.

2. Kohli out and Rubel's out are not same... in-terms of importance and value. There is valid reason to celebrate Kohli's wicket, as super star batman. There is basically almost no reason to celebrate Rubel's out, a tail ender.

3. A bowler should celebrate after getting a prized wicket, the same way a batsman should celebrate after hitting some personal milestone (50, 100, 200, etc.).
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Old March 23, 2015, 12:34 PM
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^^ This.

There is difference between aggression and abuse.
can you please highlight the difference. Also the very point you make is my point aggression in Riaz bowling and abuse in Rubel Kohli tiff. Aggression is for a cause, abuse is personal.
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Old March 23, 2015, 12:46 PM
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How about we stop parenting here and appreciate the rivalry ? From now on Koheli will always be a bit more nervous if Rubel is playing.
I thought Koheli's reaction was matured but Rubel was matured aswell, he remembered how Koheli abused him in 2011 WC that too in BD and in this match he outplayed Koheli, got him out and then showed some aggression, he didn't sledge before but waited and delivered.
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Old March 23, 2015, 01:00 PM
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can you please highlight the difference. Also the very point you make is my point aggression in Riaz bowling and abuse in Rubel Kohli tiff. Aggression is for a cause, abuse is personal.
^^^ This <--------- it is an ancient internet discussion forum way of saying not only I agree with what you say but that "this" needs to be seen and read by all.

Or in short - I was agreeing.

Abuse is calling someone names or making obscene gestures.

Aggression is walking up and glaring. Or even a slow clap (aka Wahab).

Some amount of gamesmanship is always needed to spice it up.
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Old March 23, 2015, 01:54 PM
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You'd compare Sreesanth's "shake your buns" to Rubel jubilation? Seriously, Rubel has reason to be exuberant. Kohli averages over 130 against us. Getting him out cheaply was huge. I don't see anything wrong with that. Many times, Kohli has stood between us and victory. Why wouldn't he celebrate wildly?

Besides Rubel oly did it once or twice in his life. Sree would break into annoying jigs after even taking a catch .
I am not saying he shouldn't, but that it looks OTT and ill mannered, like for sreesanth.
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Old March 30, 2015, 10:44 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f4_1KsIjYs

This is the history. If a batsman was cussing my mother out the last time I met him in a WC match, and since then he's become a world beater, and I just out-thought him for a cheap score, I'd celebrate too.
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Old March 30, 2015, 11:11 AM
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I am not saying he shouldn't, but that it looks OTT and ill mannered, like for sreesanth.
On the other hand Rubel will never cry but punch him back if Harbajan ever try to slap him.
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Old March 30, 2015, 11:15 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f4_1KsIjYs

This is the history. If a batsman was cussing my mother out the last time I met him in a WC match, and since then he's become a world beater, and I just out-thought him for a cheap score, I'd celebrate too.
Exactly Rubel is no sreesanth we don't need cry baby as out FBs... they need to be bold and aggressive and they need have that fight-back mentality...
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Old March 31, 2015, 12:16 AM
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And history was made as Fazal and Razab agreed for the first time
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Old March 31, 2015, 01:37 AM
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Here's how I felt about that delivery, posted in a different thread:
"That delivery from Rubel may have altered the course of history for India. Kohli will remember it forever. Until that delivery Kohli was in tremendous form in the world cup scoring at will and averaging 75. When he came to the crease against Aus the game was in the balance, but for some reason I knew he wouldn't last long. His poise had already been disturbed, touch slightly lost, which was enough for him to play a miscued shot which on any other day he would've put away for a boundary."
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