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Old February 11, 2016, 12:02 PM
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I don't agree with the statement in CI by some player that we lost cuz we were 20 runs short. We lost cuz we didn't apply enough pressure in the beginning, we dropped Pope once, and as Jaddu mentioned due to lack of aggressive captaincy. The general aggressive outlook be it batting or bowling is something we don't pursue consciously. And then there is always the "buli" of the commentators "Oh he just hit a six, why is he a playing the big shot now"... tf

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Old February 11, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Yes think tank deserves criticism why on earth you bat first when you know early on bowl moves about does something in the fogg. They thought later on it would spin square but it hardly span neither out spinners turn alot anyway.

Massive mistake batting first!!!
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Old February 11, 2016, 12:49 PM
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1) Why bat first in subcontinent winter
2) Why Miraz comes so late after the damage is already done!
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Old February 11, 2016, 05:52 PM
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Management had a brainfart. Misread the wicket completely. It never span square later on. Wicket stayed true and batting paradise in fact got even flat late on in the day!
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Old February 11, 2016, 07:20 PM
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Management had a brainfart. Misread the wicket completely. It never span square later on. Wicket stayed true and batting paradise in fact got even flat late on in the day!
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Why would it be a "big upset"? This is cricket and we've already beaten one of the top Asian sides who was unbeaten until they came up against us!!!...BD favourites but we've got more than enough in that side to win the game imo.

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True that, Windies beating us won't be an upset. What surprises me is that the whole Bangladeshi camp is talking about the opponents and the pace etc etc not their own strength, that worries me. Kinda looks like a mental battle won by the Windies already by instilling fear into our team. We can't be scared to face 90 mph deliveries, moreover we have already faced them.

If you don't think about how to score, where to score and take the total to a big one the probability is high that you won't score. If you are thinking negatively and be like how am I going to handle that pace, the probability are higher that you won't be able to handle it.

I hope I am wrong in this, but from all the talks I am hearing from the papers it seems the Bangladeshis are scared. That's going to be a factor here!

If we win the toss, put windies to bat so that they don't get anything out of the morning juice. Toss might actually decide the fate because from the looks of it if Bangladesh goes into bat, we might be 40/3 in no time and lose the match inside the first 15 overs. Saif may actually be needed for the first time in that case.
Read what I wrote about the match even before it started, if I had the cricketing sense to judge this correctly how come the team management with years of cricketing experience didn't? Isnt it a failure on their part? You must surely be questioning their ability. Anyways, it's over. We did well, could be better...
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Old February 11, 2016, 08:14 PM
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This happens in the National team as well. Under Mushy we took bowling after picking only 3 specialist bowlers.
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Old February 12, 2016, 02:14 AM
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This happens with BD at Under 19 level. I cant remember which year, but we whitewashed England just before the U19WC, but were beaten by them at the actual tournament. Same here against West Indies.

But cant take anything away from the West Indians. Perhaps they were the better team on the day. Although the toss could have made some difference. Guys like Pope, Joseph are going to be stars in the coming years. On an individual ability level they had a lot more going.

I gotta say though, that this is not the best Under 19 squads (Talent Wise) we ve fielded. But they have done reasonably well. They seem very well drilled-fit, good fielding. Although i didnt find them as sound technically with ball or bat, they were mentally strong and intelligent. For example: Imagine Farhad Reza or Ziaur Rahman coming to bat in place of Shafiuddin. Would we have even scored 200?

I wont take anything away from coaching staff. Mizanur Rahman etc have done a fine job. Next WC a lot of the younger guys will be at their prime eg: Shanto, Pinak, Saif. So we can look fwd to that. But i think it would good if BCB is willing to spend and appoint a good coach for a period of 1-2 years. We shouldnt cut budget just because its an Under 19 team. The mental aspect of the game can be only taught by a very experienced coach. If BCB does not want to get a foreign coach, at least look to individuals like Aminul Islam or Khaled Mashud.
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Old February 12, 2016, 02:58 AM
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Fire the current coaching setup would be my recommendation. They potentially destroyed the game of Saif with all that blocking instruction for the team. The whole game plan seemed dumb. Block half the game and then expect the middle order to lift the score to 230-240 score. We were lucky that we faced a pathetic SA team and Nepal in the QF or else our run would have been shorter.
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Old February 12, 2016, 01:25 PM
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I disagree. I would argue that despite the vast difference in the standard of the system, a young Tamim coming through was actually better than Joe Root coming into international cricket. These guys matured after walking into international cricket while our cricketers stagnated
Again that's because of the system. Tamim has natural talent. That wasn't due to the system. We just don't have the established FC system compared to other countries hence our players are still behind the curve despite the talent being present.
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:06 PM
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This was a very mature yet ordinary bunch.

Looks like this time around selectors/management put most emphasis on maturity of a player, as opposed to pick best talented players out there and help them to mature over two years period (after the last U/19 WC). This attitude not gonna help, at past we saw what happened with guys like Ashiqur Rahman (mature yet not so talented). This sort of players don't grow beyond U/19 level, don't contribute to long term development of our cricket.

I would definitely would like to see a new set of selectors/management with a fresh perspective of age level cricketers.
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Old February 13, 2016, 08:20 PM
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Defensive mindset and lack of extraordinary individual talent were highlighted as the reasons behind Bangladesh’s failure to qualify in ICC Under-19 World Cup final. West Indies Under-19 team handed Bangladesh a cricketing lesson about how one should perform in a big match as they kept their cool to come out victorious in the crunch semi-final. Former players and analysts said that though the team tried to play as a unit yet there was lack of individual spark needed to win a tournament of this stature. Skipper Mehedi Hasan, batsmen Nazmul Hossain and Zakir Hasan never looked to be dominating and rather opted to play the safe cricket which sometimes allowed the opponents to take the command. The success in the pre-tournament series gave the team management a sense of complacency as they failed to concentrate on identifying the team’s major lacking and rather followed same, mundane formula one after another match. When Bangladesh senior team revolutionised their game in the recent time by abandoning the age old theories the Under-19 team preferred to play conventional cricket with four spinners operating in almost every game. ‘The strategy of depending on the spinners was okay at times,’ said former national captain and senior team selector Habibul Bashar. ‘But there should have been a second option.’ It was learnt that prior to the quarter-final match against Nepal, the team-management instructed to curators to cut off the grasses from pitches, which only denied the pace bowlers a chance of having a go at the minnows. Similarly against West Indies the decision of batting first in a gloomy morning indicated the team’s lack of confidence on their available spearheads. ‘The wicket at Mirpur favour the pacers these days but we did not try to exploit that,’ he said. ‘There can be a debate over the decision after winning the toss and I feel if we had decided to bowl it would have been better.’ The management seemed to overlook the possibilities of their pace bowlers right from the days when they started their home series against South Africa last year. Their spinners served their purpose as they defeated the young Proteas, which may have given the team a winning start to their preparation campaign, but it in the end proved to be only a false dawn. The spinners failed to deliver when it mattered most. Similarly their batting philosophy never looked to be suited for modern game when the advent of Twenty20 changed the mindset of the batsmen all over the world. When Bangladesh appeared to remain content with 30 runs in the first 10 overs, West Indies released their pressure with a quick start in the semi-final, showing the hosts how it should be done. ‘I think we missed the X-factor,’ said BCB game development manager Nazmul Abedin. ‘We managed to win matches but never in convincing manner.’

See more at: http://newagebd.net/202331/bangladesh-in-u-19-wc/#.dpuf
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Old February 13, 2016, 11:11 PM
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This happens in the National team as well. Under Mushy we took bowling after picking only 3 specialist bowlers.
You forgot to mention the most thing about that incident.. ON A TEST MATCH.

The fact that he committed this crime on a longer version of the game makes his crime a SIN and not just a mistake.

Mushfiq is the most terrible captain my eyes ever had to endure.
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Old February 13, 2016, 11:13 PM
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You forgot to mention the most thing about that incident.. ON A TEST MATCH.

The fact that he committed this crime on a longer version of the game makes his crime a SIN and not just a mistake.

Mushfiq is the most terrible captain my eyes ever had to endure.
The most hilarious part was when the wannabe injured himself few overs in and we effectively only had 2
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Defensive mindset and lack of extraordinary individual talent were highlighted as the reasons behind Bangladesh’s failure to qualify in ICC Under-19 World Cup final. West Indies Under-19 team handed Bangladesh a cricketing lesson about how one should perform in a big match as they kept their cool to come out victorious in the crunch semi-final. Former players and analysts said that though the team tried to play as a unit yet there was lack of individual spark needed to win a tournament of this stature. Skipper Mehedi Hasan, batsmen Nazmul Hossain and Zakir Hasan never looked to be dominating and rather opted to play the safe cricket which sometimes allowed the opponents to take the command. The success in the pre-tournament series gave the team management a sense of complacency as they failed to concentrate on identifying the team’s major lacking and rather followed same, mundane formula one after another match. When Bangladesh senior team revolutionised their game in the recent time by abandoning the age old theories the Under-19 team preferred to play conventional cricket with four spinners operating in almost every game. ‘The strategy of depending on the spinners was okay at times,’ said former national captain and senior team selector Habibul Bashar. ‘But there should have been a second option.’ It was learnt that prior to the quarter-final match against Nepal, the team-management instructed to curators to cut off the grasses from pitches, which only denied the pace bowlers a chance of having a go at the minnows. Similarly against West Indies the decision of batting first in a gloomy morning indicated the team’s lack of confidence on their available spearheads. ‘The wicket at Mirpur favour the pacers these days but we did not try to exploit that,’ he said. ‘There can be a debate over the decision after winning the toss and I feel if we had decided to bowl it would have been better.’ The management seemed to overlook the possibilities of their pace bowlers right from the days when they started their home series against South Africa last year. Their spinners served their purpose as they defeated the young Proteas, which may have given the team a winning start to their preparation campaign, but it in the end proved to be only a false dawn. The spinners failed to deliver when it mattered most. Similarly their batting philosophy never looked to be suited for modern game when the advent of Twenty20 changed the mindset of the batsmen all over the world. When Bangladesh appeared to remain content with 30 runs in the first 10 overs, West Indies released their pressure with a quick start in the semi-final, showing the hosts how it should be done. ‘I think we missed the X-factor,’ said BCB game development manager Nazmul Abedin. ‘We managed to win matches but never in convincing manner.’

See more at: http://newagebd.net/202331/bangladesh-in-u-19-wc/#.dpuf
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