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Old March 9, 2016, 01:10 PM
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Nasir hasn't played for awhile. He bowled well last game and okay in this one (wicket). He is a crucial all rounder for the team. Mushfiq needs a break.
Nasir is so friggin overrated what does he add as an alrunder exactly? If he's an all-rounder then I'm Tendulkar.. What a load of crap. Sucks with the bat and will get hammered against any decent batting side.
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Old March 9, 2016, 01:22 PM
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"slogger" or "no slogger", in his brief opportunities, Nurul's career T20 SR is the 2nd best in the current team

Mashrafee 138 SR
Nurual 125 SR
SS 122 SR
Sakib 121 SR
Sabbir 118 SR
Riyad 115 SR
Nasir 113 SR
Arafat 113 SR
Mushfiq 112 SR
Tamim 109 SR
Mithun 103 SR


How about the career T20 average?
Nurul is with Nasir, Rahim and SS around ~18

Riyad 33 avg
Sabbir 31 avg
Sakib 22 avg
Tamim 21 avg
Nasir 18 avg
SS 18 avg
Nurual 18 avg
Mushfiq 17 avg
mashrafee 14 avg
Mithun 12 avg
Arafat 11 avg


Now some of you will say he just players 6 T20, the stat must be screwed.

I will say , yes, its screwed .... we haven't seen the best of Nurul yet and sky is his limit for him (unlike some other senior players).... and that's why Nurual should be playing ahead of Nasir and Mushfiq. He knows the importance of scoring fast (2nd highest SR behind Mashrafee) in the later stage of the innings and still he is maintaining an average of 18. And he is an excellent WK. What else do you need?

Its not that our team is scoring good, we are routinely struggling to go beyond 140. We need new and young aggressive and talented players like Nurul....we cannot do that with status quo older players who. after playing so many T20 games still struggle to cross SR of 110 or fail to cross an average of 25+ in their career.
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Old March 9, 2016, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fazal
"slogger" or "no slogger", in his brief opportunities, Nurul's career T20 SR is the 2nd best in the current team

Mashrafee 138 SR
Nurual 125 SR
SS 122 SR
Sakib 121 SR
Sabbir 118 SR
Riyad 115 SR
Nasir 113 SR
Arafat 113 SR
Mushfiq 112 SR
Tamim 109 SR
Mithun 103 SR


How about the career T20 average?
Nurul is with Nasir, Rahim and SS around ~18

Riyad 33 avg
Sabbir 31 avg
Sakib 22 avg
Tamim 21 avg
Nasir 18 avg
SS 18 avg
Nurual 18 avg
Mushfiq 17 avg
mashrafee 14 avg
Mithun 12 avg
Arafat 11 avg


Now some of you will say he just players 6 T20, the stat must be screwed.

I will say , yes, its screwed .... we haven't seen the best of Nurul yet and sky is his limit (unlike some other senior players).... and that's why Nurual should be playing ahead of Nasir and Mushfiq. He knows the importance of scoring fast (2nd highest SR behind Mashrafee) in the later overs and still he is maintaining an average of 18. And he is an excellent WK. What else do you need?

its not that we, as team is scoring good. We struggle to pass 140. We need new and young aggressive and talented players like Nurul....not status quo old players who. after playing so many T20 games still struggle to Cross SR 110 or fail to cross an average of 25+.
This is some excellent analysis. Thanks. I wonder how much BCB rates stats? Some teams use it more than others. "Moneyball" was an excellent book that takes you into the world of sport stats.
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Old March 9, 2016, 03:53 PM
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On basis of what, should Nurul get a spot? Is he a t20 specialist? The sample size is way to small to judge. Does he have special t20 knocks in domestic or international? I am not a critic, just want to know if he has it in him.
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Old March 9, 2016, 04:07 PM
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On basis of what, should Nurul get a spot? Is he a t20 specialist? The sample size is way to small to judge. Does he have special t20 knocks in domestic or international? I am not a critic, just want to know if he has it in him.
Well, how will you know, if you don't give him a run?
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On basis of what, should Nurul get a spot? Is he a t20 specialist? The sample size is way to small to judge. Does he have special t20 knocks in domestic or international? I am not a critic, just want to know if he has it in him.

>> On basis of what, should Nurul get a spot?
Specialized WK and late order batsman.


>> Is he a t20 specialist?
I would say yes he is a prospective t20 specialist. that's why coach/selectors picked him.


>> The sample size is way to small to judge.
Yes. That's why instead of dropping him in the first place, should continue to play so that we can all judge him properly. The sample size if good, no reason to drop him prematurely.

>> I am not a critic, just want to know if he has it in him
Personally I believe so. He is an excellent WK, the best we have got right now, even better than Litton. We haven't seen enough of his batting to make a good judgment. But one thing I noticed, he is not selfish player, plus he understand the importance of getting runs quickly later in the innings (when he batted).


he was not given a fair chance to establish himself in the team.
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Old March 9, 2016, 05:45 PM
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No keep same team. Sunny and Nasir will do well with the ball against them. Slow bowlers needed on this wicket.
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Old March 9, 2016, 08:29 PM
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Nurul hasn't displayed outstanding batting performances given the few chances he had. He is great wickerkeeper. However, who can he replace in a world cup? Mushfiq and Nasir are experienced players. Look at soumya and sabbir, they got extended run in odi's. I think t20 is the hardest format. It will be unwise to get him in playing xi in the wc. If mushy and nas continues to fail then a window can open up. But not yet.
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Old March 9, 2016, 08:54 PM
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This is some excellent analysis. Thanks. I wonder how much BCB rates stats? Some teams use it more than others. "Moneyball" was an excellent book that takes you into the world of sport stats.
BCB has done its job. They have picked Nurul for the squad.

Now it's the team mgt decision about who to play. So it depends entirely now on Mash and Haturi da.
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Old March 9, 2016, 10:13 PM
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I just wish Tigers are aggressive and pick an extra pacer. In any event Nasir and Riyad are there to bowl. And if you see last nights game, its those 4-5 overs by Taskin/Mashrafee which won us the game.

Sunny is not bad, he is a handy bowler. But the real question is do we need a handy bowler or a match winner? So far in all our wins in recent times its been the quicks who have been winning the match.
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Old March 10, 2016, 07:35 PM
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Just bring a live tiger from bangladesh and let it open the innings with Tamim Iqbal. Also let that tiger bowl with the new ball. It should be able to get some early wickets in the PP.

1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Live tiger from bangladesh
3. SS
4. Sabbir
5. Live gorilla from Uganda
6. Riyadh
7. Another live tiger
8. Mortaza
9. Taskin
10. Taskin's oldest son Laskin
11. Sunny's cousin from Kuala Lumpur
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