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Old June 14, 2005, 01:45 PM
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How about considering the ODI series as 25-30 over match and play all out attact. This way BD will lose all wickets in 25 to 30 overs but will have a better chance to score 200. If we play normal, we will get all out in 25-30 overs any way--but run will be just around 140.

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Old June 14, 2005, 01:55 PM
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If we play normal, we will get all out in 25-30 overs any way--but run will be just around 140.
Did you meant 140 or 40 ? To do that we need to have a RR 5.6. Is it possible if we play normal? 40 is more reasonable with a rr 1.6. Becuase with our normal game we play ODI like test and vice versa for test.

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Old June 14, 2005, 02:29 PM
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It's a popular concept that "we play ODI like test and test like ODI". This concept has grown from looking at statistics, but in reality things are very different.

We don't play Test like ODI. In tests, boundaries generate more runs compared to singles/doubles. Like other teams, we also score more runs from boundaries in Test cricket, by taking advantage of aggressive bowling and fielding. But unlike other teams, we don't have the skill to build an sizeable innings due to poor technique and temperament of our batsmen.

In ODI things are different. It's possible to get away with not so good technique, and our batsmen are definately capable of batting through 50 overs. But shot placement of our batsmen is very poor. So our batsmen don't get reward for many good shots and the inablility to keep rotating strikes results in increased pressure on batsmen. Then the batsman either give away the wicket by playing some wild stroke or continues helping the opposition by just staying at the wicket without scoring runs.
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Old June 14, 2005, 02:36 PM
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I raised the issue, because I don't like this exception stuff, specially when you consider Bashar, who is the team's captain and one of the most experienced player. We should expect him to play 4/5 slot like Enzy and steer the team based on the situation.
Bashar is not Inzy. He just doesn't have the ability to elevate his strike rate from 50% to 100% within space of 2-3 overs, if situation demands this kind of thing from him.
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Old June 14, 2005, 02:44 PM
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Agreed.
However my point in the original message was, if we feel that we cannot expect Bashar and Aftab to adopt/curtail their natural aggression style (one with vast experience and one with minimum); how can we expect that Rafique, Mashrafe, Ash, or Even Nafis will suddenly start playing more sensibly with their current off-form (except for Rafique may be). Isn't it too much and unrealistic expectation also?


Edited on, June 14, 2005, 8:11 PM GMT, by Fazal.
Reason: typo!! Mashrafe not Mushfiq
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Old June 14, 2005, 02:58 PM
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In short... these two seems to be more successful than others in playing the risky way. The others (including Ash) only fail 95% of the times when they go for blasting batting. In ODI.... 2 of the 11 batsmen could be risked who may be allowed to play shots at will.
So you think that Bashar and Aftab will continue their natural style of batting and the rest of the 9 including Rafique, Masharfee , will start batting more sensibly? How about Ash? It was mentioned so many times in this message board that "Ash should play his natural game to get back his form. Too uch pressure is effecting his performnace." With his cuurent form, do you thing it will be wise to assign him with added burden to play like Gullu whereas our experienced Captain will be allowed to play his natutal carefree style? It may bring some runs for bashar, but what will be the effect on the team short term and long term?
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Old June 14, 2005, 03:07 PM
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Ash is a big idiot, and he will never learn.

Nafees is totally clueless. He either goes for all out attack or digs his own grave by over cautiousness. He's still fresh, so we may expect him to get better.

Mushfiq Rahim is not in the team, and someone like Rafique can only succeed by playing his natural game.

However, if Aftab doesn't mature much and become a Chris Gayle instead of becoming another Ashraful, then I'll be very happy since we don't even have someone as good as Chris Gayle.
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Old June 14, 2005, 03:10 PM
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Mushfiq Rahim is not in the team, and someone like Rafique can only succeed by playing his natural game.
Ops. Sorry I meant Mashrafee not Mushfiq. I will correct my earlier message
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