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Old February 13, 2017, 03:02 PM
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Im a test cricket geek. Seen every single ball of this match. Im not an expert but IMHO Ashwin DOES NOT chuck
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Old February 13, 2017, 03:33 PM
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Im a test cricket geek. Seen every single ball of this match. Im not an expert but IMHO Ashwin DOES NOT chuck
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If only one could be tested on their cricketing knowledge before being able to post on forums , than no one would question Ashwin during the last test or bring up conspiracy theories which is hilarious and cringeworthy at the same time.
Why are you guys bringing facts and reality into the picture? Since BCCICC called Taskin and Sunny chuckers, it is your patriotic duty to accuse Indians, with or without basis. This is how some of these geniuses think.
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Old February 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
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Why are you guys bringing facts and reality into the picture? Since BCCICC called Taskin and Sunny chuckers, it is your patriotic duty to accuse Indians, with or without basis. This is how some of these geniuses think.
Most likely it was an erroneous test result in the case of Taskin. He was cleared in South Africa with a very minimal change in his action. In fact, the slight change in his action is only noticeble on slow motion, and even then only affects his arm below the shoulder line which is actually irelevant according to the ICC's current chucking regulations. Not only that, but when you look at replays, the level of bend in Ashwin's arm is quite similar to that of Taskin's before and after he was banned.

This is not uncommon, nor does it have anything to do with the BCCI.

Brian Vitori was suspended for chucking in February 2016, just 1 month before Taskin, he was then cleared in June. In his very first game back in November, he gets reported again, and subsequently re-banned.

So a guy takes a Test 3 times in 9 months and his results are fail, pass, fail. How is that possible? Either the Tests are not uniform, nor the Tests lack precision.

Regardless, this indicates the sensitivity of the Tests, as currently administered leave a lot to be desired.

Furthermore, Kusal Perera's doping case is further proof that the ICC doesn't necessarily employ competent professionals in these instances. SLC were able to show that the chemical found in his blood/urine sample can be found in that concentration as a result of normal human physiology, thereby providing reasonable doubt and his suspension was vacated immediately.

Any technical or scientific tool has error in measurement, and that is given that the measurement is done properly (actually measuring what is intended to measure) and there are no technical glitches.
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Old February 13, 2017, 04:52 PM
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Whining comes naturally to some people, lets get this straight, Ashwin does not chuck, If he were Umpires would have called it since the rest of the world don't dwell in ICC=BCCI fanboy conspiracies. Of course dissatisfaction from the losing side is nothing uncommon especially if the side is BD, I will be surprised if Hasina doesn't pursue this issue at UN
A statement which cannot be proved or disproved kind of like saying "God is a male". But I will say that Ojha managed to play quite a few Tests and took 100+ wickets and was never called by the ICC for chucking.

You have to concede that there is a significant concern from people if they irk the BCCI. Steve Bucknor had been making poor decisions against all teams, but he lost his job only after he robbed India.
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Old February 13, 2017, 04:52 PM
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Does anyone actually think ashwin chucks or he chucked couple of deliveries in the whole game

It's ridiculous to say he chucks
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Old February 13, 2017, 08:52 PM
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A statement which cannot be proved or disproved kind of like saying "God is a male". But I will say that Ojha managed to play quite a few Tests and took 100+ wickets and was never called by the ICC for chucking.

You have to concede that there is a significant concern from people if they irk the BCCI. Steve Bucknor had been making poor decisions against all teams, but he lost his job only after he robbed India.
And Ashoka De Silva.
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Old February 13, 2017, 11:33 PM
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Bro, you have thrown a pebble at the beehive. How dare you point your finger at world's best spinner especially who comes from number one test team? Do you think he wouldn't be called out by the elite umpires all around the world if he chucked? Do you think power and money controls everything? Don't you know cricket is a gentlemen's game? There is no place for dirty politics in cricket. How dare you?
hmm, Interesting analogy.

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Is it enough, one ball out of 100 is hardly a lot to call him a chucker
Didn't Taskin get reported on the ball that he didn't play at all in the game?

Anyway, this is not the place to discuss about it.
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Old February 14, 2017, 12:07 AM
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hmm, Interesting analogy.



Didn't Taskin get reported on the ball that he didn't play at all in the game?

Anyway, this is not the place to discuss about it.
Taskin got called unfairly so Ashwin should be called as well?
Even if (a big if) BCCI had a hand in Taskin ban, Ashwin has nothing to do with it. Harbhajan should have been banned, Ojha should have been banned but not Ashwin
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Old February 14, 2017, 12:51 AM
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Taskin got called unfairly so Ashwin should be called as well?
Even if (a big if) BCCI had a hand in Taskin ban, Ashwin has nothing to do with it. Harbhajan should have been banned, Ojha should have been banned but not Ashwin
Don't over analyze my post. Re-read it again. I only answered the question about "1 out of 100 delivery" logic in a game. The proven fact is that a bowler (Taskin) was banned for a delivery in a game where he did not bowl that particular ball at all. That's "0 out of 24 delivery." I did not mention any other bowler's or board's name nor did I blame anyone.
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Old February 14, 2017, 03:25 AM
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Old February 14, 2017, 05:27 AM
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And Ashoka De Silva.
You guys have absolutely no clue how many years Bucknor and Ajoka screwed over Team India for.
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Old February 14, 2017, 05:53 AM
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^lol and you have no idea how many times Ashoka screwed BD over but nothing happened until he did his 'thing' against India in WC 2011.
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Old February 14, 2017, 06:02 AM
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^lol and you have no idea how many times Ashoka screwed BD over but nothing happened until he did his 'thing' against India in WC 2011.
What's that got to with the discussion? You and other un-informed geniuses were claiming that these 2 incompetents were benched after making mistakes against India, right away, which is not true.

Ek Kaam karo, sit in a corner, and whine about how India is big. And unfair. hope it makes you feel better.

Geez, for some people, I guess life is too hard to handle unless they cling to myths that there's a conspiracy against them.
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Old February 14, 2017, 06:06 AM
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What's that got to with the discussion? You and other un-informed geniuses were claiming that these 2 incompetents were benched after making mistakes against India, right away, which is not true.

Ek Kaam karo, sit in a corner, and whine about how India is big. And unfair. hope it makes you feel better.

Geez, for some people, I guess life is too hard to handle unless they cling to myths that there's a conspiracy against them.
It's true with ashoka though, but it being India was not relevant in my opinion, being a big team was, he blatantly used to cheat against bangladesh and zimbabwe vs a big team, any big team

And bucknor used to be good, then got old
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Old February 14, 2017, 06:11 AM
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Ashoka was a nightmare back in those years. Good thing that he lost his place in elite panel
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