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Shakib Al Hasan 33 67.35%
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Old June 10, 2017, 10:36 AM
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Default Ben Stokes Vs. Shakib Al Hasan

Who is better?

Two genuine All-Rounders, both with immense class.
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Both with immense class? Nice to hear you say that about Shakib
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Both with immense class? Nice to hear you say that about Shakib
He has met my criteria, yesterday. Finally at a global stage he has performed and shown his class.
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I'd say Ben Stokes. He's extremely talented with bat, ball and field. Both are different types.
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I'd say Ben Stokes. He's extremely talented with bat, ball and field. Both are different types.
Who is a better fielder?
Shakib or Stokes?

Who is a better bowler?
Shakib or Stokes?

Who is a better batsman?
Shakib or Stokes?
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Who is a better fielder?
Shakib or Stokes?

Who is a better bowler?
Shakib or Stokes?


Who is a better batsman?
Shakib or Stokes?
The bold part is not comparable. Carlos says, "hi". This also proves who is better at pressure situation.

How many times Stokes has opened bowling for his team?
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The bold part is not comparable. Carlos says, "hi". This also proves who is better at pressure situation.

How many times Stokes has opened bowling for his team?
Why is it not comparable? both are given responsibility to bowl.. Agree Shakib bowl's more at pressure time, and Stokes less so..

But in terms of overall bowling - I think Shakib edges it.. rightly for the reason stated by yourself.

In terms of fielding and batting - Stokes ahead?
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5 years down the line, Stokes may well be the better all rounder. But Shakib is the better cricketer right now, no doubt.
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Shakib is the best allrounder at the moment in ODI. And that's what matters. Stokes is closely 2nd IMO! But if you ask me who I'd take in none asian conditions? I'd say Stokes.
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Old June 10, 2017, 12:29 PM
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I really like Shakib for his immense fighting spirit, I really do, but I would go with Stokes in a heartbeat, more talented, has a higher ceiling, and brings that x factor.
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Stokes hands down
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not comparable. one is a seamer and the other one a spinner. both plays different role in the team.

stokes vs Abul is a better comparison
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Not comparable. Stokes played with authority today. Fluent. Brilliant. And when you don't have shaky bottom order you can play like that. OTOH, Shakib performs best under pressure at clutch. I wonder how many times Stokes can do that?
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Stokes at the moment. Stokes for the future.

Shakib is that kid who could've gotten a 4 GPA, but decided to slack off and get a 3.7 because it would be a good enough. Shakib is like Shaquille O'Neal.
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Shakib is very talented but very limited as well in terms of batting. Also he doesn't seem to challenge himself to do better. Stokes is a complete batsman. He wins batting hands down. Now, shakib used to be a better bowler, but these days his bowling does not spark the same feeling like it used to. He went from a break through bowler to a containment one. Overall Stokes more capable and shakib more valuable.
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Not comparable. Stokes played with authority today. Fluent. Brilliant. And when you don't have shaky bottom order you can play like that. OTOH, Shakib performs best under pressure at clutch. I wonder how many times Stokes can do that?
Ditto...Stoke has definitely raised the Stakes recently and played some great innings. Shak OTOH has been frequently asked to shoulder the burden of a nation almost singlehandedly until recently and delivered quite frequently. His greatness lies in the fact that he's been consistently doing it for such a long time, especially with the ball, while mostly staying under the radar.
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Stokes seems to challenge himself in every game. Shakib perhaps left that time of his career.
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Is this even up for a debate? Stokes wipes the floor with Shakib. I admire Shakib,I really do. He's easily the best all-rounder Bangladesh has ever produced.

But that doesn't necessarily mean he's comparable to someone like stokes. Stokes is in the league of Imran, botham, dev and if he remains fit he'll one day surpass them as the best all-rounder who's ever graced the cricket field.

It's quite hilarious that here we r comparing him with shakib who doesn't even get selected to play for kkr on a consistent basis.
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Is this even up for a debate? Stokes wipes the floor with Shakib. I admire Shakib,I really do. He's easily the best all-rounder Bangladesh has ever produced.

But that doesn't necessarily mean he's comparable to someone like stokes. Stokes is in the league of Imran, botham, dev and if he remains fit he'll one day surpass them as the best all-rounder who's ever graced the cricket field.

It's quite hilarious that here we r comparing him with shakib who doesn't even get selected to play for kkr on a consistent basis.
Stokes in the league of Botham? Are you crazy? How many test has he played and what is the statistics? You could at best compare him with Flintoff but he got a long way to reach at the level of Kallis or Waugh. For How many seasons did you witness Ben Stokes performing consistently? He is just another Lance Klusener who also started with a bang and gleaned praises earlier in his career.

Your overtly ardent desire to undermine our team is not only disingenuous but preposterous.
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Stokes in the league of Botham? Are you crazy? How many test has he played and what is the statistics? You could at best compare him with Flintoff but he got a long way to reach at the level of Kallis or Waugh. For How many seasons did you witness Ben Stokes performing consistently? He is just another Lance Klusener who also started with a bang and gleaned praises earlier in his career.

Your overtly ardent desire to undermine our team is not only disingenuous but preposterous.
I Hope u did watch his batting against Australia yesterday? After a long long time I've watched someone to bat with such authority against one of the best bowling attack in world cricket.


I'm not saying he's already as good of a player as botham or Imran. What I'm saying is he belongs to that league and one day he'll become as good as them if not better.


Look at his contribution towards his ipl team supergiants. Some of the innings he played for supergiants were simply out of this world. He's an impact player and always contributes for his team. Belittling Shakib isn't my intention. He is good but stokes is way better.
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Shakib in ODI is better IMO. It's too early to compare with Stokes as he hasn't played that many games and made significant contributions.
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I think it makes sense to compare them when they were in the same stages of their careers. In 32 tests Stokes has a batting average of 33.96, with 8 fifties and 4 centuries. He has 79 wickets, a bowling average of 34.46, econ of 3.40 and 3 five wicket hauls.

In his first 32 tests, Shakib averaged 36.92 with the bat, with 14 fifties and 2 centuries. He had 113 wickets, a bowling average of 32.62, econ of 2.87 and 10 five wicket hauls.

Turning to ODIs, Stokes has played 58 ODIs. He has a batting average of 33.77, SR of 99.08, 3 centuries and 8 half-centuries. He has 50 wickets, a bowling average of 38.38, econ of 6.10, one four-wicket haul and one five wicket-haul

Over the same span of 52 matches, Shakib had a batting average of 32.42, SR of 68.19, 2 centuries and 7 half-centuries. He had 51 wickets, a bowling average of 34.29, econ of 4.22 and no 4 wicket hauls.

I think it's fair to say that at similar points in their career, Shakib was the more incisive and miserly bowler, especially in Tests. In terms of batting, Shakib had a higher test average and more fifties, but as Tests are about scoring 'big' runs, Stokes edges it.The difference is more stark in ODI batting, not only does Stokes have a marginally higher batting average but the difference in SR is a staggering 30 (!) This may be because Shakib played his first 52 games between 2006-2008, a different era for batting, but nonetheless, it would seem Stokes has a bigger impact in the ODIs he bats in.

Looking at Shakib's example is also instructive from the perspective that his performance as a batsman has improved in subsequent years - in both ODIs and Tests - but his bowling returns have tailed off. It will be interesting to see which direction Stokes goes a few more years down the line.
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Shakib is clearly a level above him

I'll have stokes the odi batsman though

Test

Batting

Shakib levels above Stokes

Bowling

Shakib levels above Stokes

ODI

Batting

50/50 I'll have Stokes

Bowling

Shakib levels above


The Shakib haters will claim Stokes is better, but that's simply incorrect, Stokes is a impact player for sure, but I watch nearly every England match, and that's all he is an impact player, he's not consistent

Shakib is a consistency player, always putting in 7/10, 8/10s, he's far above Stokes

Stokes poor performances get covered up because England have been a superior team to bangladesh

In ODI its Shakib with Stokes a close second

In tests, there is no competition

T20 I couldn't care less

Stokes is younger though, has fee years on Shakib

One thing to note about the stats is Shakib played more matches in his teens and early 20's, when Stokes was just coming in, so Stokes stats will be made out of majority of his prime
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3oinroFWwY

And for fun
https://www.google.com/search?q=stok...VVqSrCpTPTGQM:
Do you remember this?

How about
https://www.google.com/search?q=stok...vRsTQ_e36SnwM:

This is What Ben Stoke deserves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1dnH9ZVIRg

Being competitive and firey is well and good. Being even cocky is acceptable to a certain degree. Being abusive in a cricket field is BULLING. There is no place of bulling in anywhere.

Unless he changes his attitude I don't consider him as a human. People change. Case and point Warner.
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