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Old July 28, 2017, 01:58 PM
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With the swing Starc gets at his pace it reminds me of waqar younis. Johnson had a different vibe, it was more fear of the bouncer and being roughed up I think, Starc attacks the stumps more.
It's a good observation. Starc attacks the stumps more than Johnson.

I recall Starc getting a wicket in his first over many times.

Johnson in that period of his was used to rough up the batsmen, hence he was call the enforcer of Michael Clarke.
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Old July 29, 2017, 12:48 PM
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Who is better? Sylheti or Dhakaiya?
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Old July 30, 2017, 06:38 AM
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Who'se better?

Umesh Yadav or Dominic Cork?
Just an interesting info:

Dominic Cork was the first English bowler to pick up a hattrick in tests...

I believe the next bowler was Matthew Hoggard against the same opposition: West Indies.
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Old August 3, 2017, 09:55 AM
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Who's the better SLA?

Herath or Vettori?
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Old August 3, 2017, 01:14 PM
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Who's the better SLA?

Herath or Vettori?
Herath is a better bowler skill-wise without a doubt, but I will have Vettori in my team instead, mentally stronger, can read the game better, brilliant fielder and a very handy bat down the order.
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Old August 3, 2017, 01:17 PM
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Who's the better SLA?

Herath or Vettori?
Who's Herath? Are you talking about Herath Mudiyanselage Rangana Keerthi Bandara Herath? Be more specific bro.
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Old August 3, 2017, 10:11 PM
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As bowlers, herath for me is significantly ahead of Vettori.
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Old August 3, 2017, 10:30 PM
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In Tests, Herath better option. In ODI's Vettori.
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Old August 4, 2017, 07:11 AM
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I think Herath is a better bowler in the second innings than the first. Vettori and his variations in speed is more effective in the first inning.
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Old August 6, 2017, 02:13 PM
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I will take Herath. I once opened a Rangana Herath appreciation thread. I think he is grossly underrated.
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Old August 6, 2017, 05:37 PM
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Better All Rounder (Tests)

Moeen Ali (Last 2 years) vs Shakib Al Hasan (2007-10)
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Better All Rounder (Tests)

Moeen Ali (Last 2 years) vs Shakib Al Hasan (2007-10)
Moeen Ali by far, Shakib is a home ground Bully, now the people are gonna crawl out the wood work and remind be about Shakib`s pointless 216 in NZ, well guess what. He didn`t win or draw the game for us. Moeen Ali is a good bowler and even a better batsmen

I remember he even opened the batting once.
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Old August 7, 2017, 10:12 AM
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Moeen Ali and Shakib were teammates for Worcestershire, back when Shakib went on that county stint...
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Old August 7, 2017, 05:38 PM
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Stokes or Woakes? Suppose it doesn't matter that much, both should be selected when fit.
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Old August 8, 2017, 03:50 AM
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Moeen Ali by far, Shakib is a home ground Bully, now the people are gonna crawl out the wood work and remind be about Shakib`s pointless 216 in NZ, well guess what. He didn`t win or draw the game for us. Moeen Ali is a good bowler and even a better batsmen

I remember he even opened the batting once.
Shakib's bowling average in SA England NZ WI combined is pretty good.

Btw he scored quite a bit in SL and India or maybe those are home ground too?

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Old August 8, 2017, 05:41 AM
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Shakib was at a point outstanding with the ball. The series played in South Africa in 2008, he was just simply incredible picking up two 5 wicket hauls in relatively less spin friend surfaces. His coach/mentor Salahuddin had said, playing T20 has adversely affected his bowling.
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Old August 8, 2017, 05:56 AM
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Moeen is the perfect example of how numbers / statistics can be totally misleading when analysing cricket. Yes he has fairly ordinary overall numbers but when you watch England play it is clear that he is on par with Root and Anderson as the MVP.
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This is a pristine example, such a good statement, look at Moeen is on par with the likes of anderson, cook and root when it comes to being a MVP, did you guys see that blistering 154 batting against the fierce Aussie bowling attack.
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Shakib is the complete opposite, numbers are not everything Shakib is not an impact player. Just because his stats look good, it isn`t justified in crunch performances. In the SA-Eng series, SA were on a good course, Moeen`s hattrick came and simply took the game away from them.

Moeen is a very quiet achiever, his impact ability is often underestimated. Moeen has never complained about whatever role given to him in the Test team and his recent milestones are a fitting reward, one of the most selfless cricket players in recent times and may be a nice guy as welll.

Moeens ali`s hattrick is an outstanding example of a bowler with grit and batsmen with clear wit.
Please, don`t compare Moeen to Shakib. Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Honda Civic.


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Old August 8, 2017, 06:15 AM
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Before I get bashed by Shaks crew.

I deleted my last post with statistics, because it was useless, someone out their will always find away to oppose statistics

Just ask yourself this, who would you want your child to follow

A guy that has a beard, supports Muslim movements such as Gaza and does charity work
OR
A guy that points at his dick in live television. And has severe disciplinary issues and thinks he is bigger than the game.

Just let that sink in.

I am waiting for someone to justify his act.
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Old August 8, 2017, 07:34 AM
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The problem you get is, you get people like above posting who actually don't follow English cricket regularly, so the frequent failures by some of their players are often missed, because the great matches are what makes the news.

It was inevitable in a thread like this, likes of dinraat sound start trolling.
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Old August 8, 2017, 03:24 PM
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Before I get bashed by Shaks crew.

Just ask yourself this, who would you want your child to follow

A guy that has a beard, supports Muslim movements such as Gaza and does charity work
OR
A guy that points at his dick in live television. And has severe disciplinary issues and thinks he is bigger than the game.

Just let that sink in.

I am waiting for someone to justify his act.
quick question: are we judging a player by his performances or by some other attributes? what does having a beard or supporting "Muslim Movements"(?) has to do with cricket? boggles my mind..last time i checked, the thread is about who is a better cricketer not who is more saintly
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Just curious to know.. following from the beard post above..

Whose the best bearded cricketer (batsman and bowler) ever?
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Old August 8, 2017, 03:40 PM
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^ WG Grace (batting allrounder) hands down...gets the best beard award as well
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Old August 8, 2017, 03:43 PM
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^ WG Grace (batting allrounder) hands down...gets the best beard award as well
50,000+ runs in first class cricket.
2800+ wickets also.

Wow. What a player.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...yer/13424.html
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