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Old August 29, 2017, 06:14 AM
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Default Why we need to lose this test match against Australia.


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As we know that Bangladesh has improved lately but in reality it's only a matter of luck with senior cricketers coming off age and Miraz making his mark.

Our pace unit was exceptional in between but after Walsh was appointed it went from bad to worse.

Our coach Haturi doesn't value our domestic performers. He keeps playing his favourite players Sabbir and Soumya even when those two are off form. They are picked in tests and bat in valuable spots just because they are said to be talented.

We need to change things around a bit. Bring in Naeem and Nafees in tests if needed.

We need Mominul to play.

We need to get rid of shafiul Islam for good.

If we win this match we will continue to go with the same group of rubbish players.

On the other hand if we lose we will be forced to make changes, some permanent.
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Old August 29, 2017, 06:59 AM
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We will lose, not need to. Game is up. If they were 4 down, before hundred then there was a chance.


Too many deadwoods. Test cricket has been taken for granted. Whatever little test BD gets must act properly. All the recent success were down to Some individual brilliance, mostly from Tamim, Shakib, Miraz, Mushy. But too long it won't keep happening where fee players doing most of the work. There's too many gutless, brainless, silly cricketers who just do not suit the test style, the feel of test is not their style, they are simply not the test material.

Guys like Mominul tailor made for test (yes has had few bad performances lately but at home he has strong record, he has the highest average but you drop him because of few bad games away from home where most failed a lot?!)

On such wickets, where ball spins quite a bit, you need good spin players. BD wickets will be like this and not flat like 2012-2014. Shahriar Nafees experienced player, excellent against spin. Tushar Imran has done well batting long innings domestically (be however the quality of domestic, still batted long overs didn't he? So sure knows how to bat long, don't he?). Heard Naeem Islam has done well too, someone who bowls better offie Nassir and mullah imo, gutsy player too and has matured, someone who I didn't like back in 2010-12 but fot test, he is defo better option the 3-4 currently playing.

Guys like Sarkar, Sabbir, Nassir, Kayes don't have what it takes to dig deeo under any good pressure nor bat against spin well on any little spin there is.
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Old August 29, 2017, 10:02 AM
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Old August 29, 2017, 11:27 AM
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You don't need to get your brains blown out to appreciate life.
Unfortunately good things happen only after dark times.

Remember how woeful England were in the world cup?

It took one bad world cup for them to completely change their team.

They removed Anderson and broad from the bowling attack and played hit the deck bowlers who could bat a bit. They removed Bell, put Ali In the lower order. They played Roy and Hales and gave them license to kill. Roped in Stokes.

In the last 3 years we have had an upward curve in terms of performance and amidst all these our flaws have been overlooked.

Unfortunately unless we have a bad performance here or there we wont change our strategy.

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Old August 29, 2017, 01:42 PM
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While we are at it, I mean while losing the match, I think we should take this opportunity and lose some weight.
In order to play good, you have to be fit, lean and mean.
Lose some fat (shorirer medh) fos!
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Old August 29, 2017, 04:26 PM
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Sadly, unless the useless coach and selectors continue to stay, nothing will change!
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Old August 29, 2017, 04:37 PM
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I love that everyone is useless when things are not going your way.

And that the selectors and coaches are brilliant tacticians when the team goes on one of those runs.

Be real.
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Old August 29, 2017, 05:01 PM
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Don't give up so easily. Have a self belief that even though you don't agree with certain decisions. The team is more important.

Today, I have never been prouder as a West Indian. A lot of support is necessary. Let the negativity be enveloped by the positive vibes.
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Old August 29, 2017, 05:01 PM
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What defeatist attitude some people have!! Your seniors are here to stay for another 8-10 years for crying out loud, some of you guys just love to radiate negative energy 24/7 sorry to say.
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Old August 29, 2017, 05:41 PM
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Coaches need to work on player weakness and selectors need to pick the right players. Soumya and sabbirs biggest issues are temperament, coaches need to be working on that.

Selectors should picking picking talent they can get the most out of. At current pacers ae next to useless whether they're experienced (shafiul) or inexperienced so logic would have it to pick prospective youngsters with great potential upside as opposed to experienced players who've already had that opportunity and not developed effectively.

They need to back talents that have performed long term I.e. Mominul, give him the benefit of the doubt, he earned it.

A consistently performing domestic player like Liton who averages almost 50 in FC cricket deserves a long run in the team in a position similar to how he scored those runs I.e. As opener or at least top 3 (possibly with the gloves, controversial but he did it domestically and averages close to 50). At the very least they need to workout what they want from liton so he knows what to develop as a player to get a shot, if they only want him as a specialist bat then let him know so he can work on his batting, doesn't need to spend as much time on keeping then. If they want him keeping he needs to know so he can work on that.
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Old August 29, 2017, 07:14 PM
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What defeatist attitude some people have!! Your seniors are here to stay for another 8-10 years for crying out loud, some of you guys just love to radiate negative energy 24/7 sorry to say.
This is a self-abusive mentality. "One must suffer to learn" "One must suffer to prosper"> Deep embedded guilt consciousness.

Does anger and failure fuel and propel? Sure! Absolutely! But you don't see hypnotists, psychotherapist and sports psychologists spitting and kicking on patient to make them feel worthless so that they feel anger and 'jidd' and get that old geezer like "Tell you what one day I will show them!" arms swiveling mentality.

Instead, they relax you and take you in a peak performance state of mind where you feel extraordinary and exuberant and that is when they embed the positive seed and programming of prosperity. (Point being should we go on to win, we won't be "spoiled" and sabotage ourselves as some of cynic minds tend to believe, rather we will redouble on your efforts to clean up the loose ends and pile on the pressure on second match.)

Human beings were meant to have a fantastic and beautiful life. They prosper more when they are relaxed, get nurture and nourishment, get playful and on a positive mindset.

These are now wildly accepted as "primitive concept" (EVEN BY OUR BANGLADESHI STANDARDS) that "mairer upor ushudh nai".

It is like saying children should be abused when young to "teach them lessons and right from wrong" when all they need but is nourishment, nurture, love and care. Just like a plant.

Anything else is ingredient to build a psychopath and terrorist.

I know I went off tangent and on a rant. But negative mindset, vibes, defeatist mentality as well as self-abusive tendency is toxic and spreads far and wide.
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Old August 29, 2017, 10:50 PM
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This is a self-abusive mentality. "One must suffer to learn" "One must suffer to prosper"> Deep embedded guilt consciousness.

Does anger and failure fuel and propel? Sure! Absolutely! But you don't see hypnotists, psychotherapist and sports psychologists spitting and kicking on patient to make them feel worthless so that they feel anger and 'jidd' and get that old geezer like "Tell you what one day I will show them!" arms swiveling mentality.

Instead, they relax you and take you in a peak performance state of mind where you feel extraordinary and exuberant and that is when they embed the positive seed and programming of prosperity. (Point being should we go on to win, we won't be "spoiled" and sabotage ourselves as some of cynic minds tend to believe, rather we will redouble on your efforts to clean up the loose ends and pile on the pressure on second match.)

Human beings were meant to have a fantastic and beautiful life. They prosper more when they are relaxed, get nurture and nourishment, get playful and on a positive mindset.

These are now wildly accepted as "primitive concept" (EVEN BY OUR BANGLADESHI STANDARDS) that "mairer upor ushudh nai".

It is like saying children should be abused when young to "teach them lessons and right from wrong" when all they need but is nourishment, nurture, love and care. Just like a plant.

Anything else is ingredient to build a psychopath and terrorist.

I know I went off tangent and on a rant. But negative mindset, vibes, defeatist mentality as well as self-abusive tendency is toxic and spreads far and wide.
Oh dear zee I agree with what you said but there is a difference between self abusive mentality and what I am in insinuating.

Bangladesh as a whole is a reactive country. Before the terrorist attack last year, our security forces had zero headache about potential terrorist attacks in the country. There were a lot of threats but no one cared

But it took one event to stir everything into action. What changed? It was just one terrorist attack. But that one attack smacked people on their head and made them realize that there are threats looming.

The situation with our team is same. We have so many flaws but our team management and BCB officials just seem to brush them aside.

Our junior cricketers are not performing but are playing match after match. Our pace bowling unit is immensely toothless. Our captain is rubbish and doesn't want to give up the gloves and concentrate on batting.

We don't have finishers in limited overs.
We don't have a decent leggie.

If you keep winning no one will bat an eye. we will keep performing crap. Our team has completely forgotten that we lost 4 test matches on the trot because of a win in the 100th test match. Those 4 matches we lost by Huge margins but looks like management doesn't even care

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Old August 29, 2017, 10:57 PM
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we need to lose this test match to drop test deadwood sarkar and sabbir..if we win it'll be because of shakib and miraz but these deadwoods will survive for winning combination sake
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Old August 29, 2017, 11:33 PM
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Needed a reality check tbh. The players, coach everyone was talking about the series like they were going to win 2-0. Shakibs comment on our spinners being better than theirs in our condition. Way too much overconfidence.
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Old August 30, 2017, 01:07 AM
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Let's not pass judgment whilst the match is still going on. Albeit, inching in BD's favor
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Old August 30, 2017, 01:08 AM
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Let's not pass judgment whilst the match is still going on. Albeit, inching in BD's favor
Now watch Sabbir and Soumya keep playing for another decade

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Old August 30, 2017, 01:09 AM
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Now watch Sabbir and Soumya keep playing for another decade

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Make it a decade and a half nah then
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Old August 30, 2017, 01:13 AM
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Even MHRAM wants BD to win now.
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