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Old September 4, 2017, 06:58 AM
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tamim LH
liton RH
mominul LH
shanto LH
Mushy RH
shakib LH
sabbir RH
Mehedi RH
Taijul/jubair/saifuddin
Taskin
Fizz/hider

If saifuddin is in there then he could bat where mehedi bats depending on how good he gets his batting and he's a lefty so that's another option. its pretty evenly balanced with left/rights.
I am not ready for Shanto yet. Sarkar @ 2 replacing Shanto.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:01 AM
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As for this thread, you play your best players. If that is 11 Left handers so be it. If 11 Right handers can play why not left handers?
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:05 AM
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As for this thread, you play your best players. If that is 11 Left handers so be it. If 11 Right handers can play why not left handers?
That's true, but going 5 LH at the top with opponents best bowler betting an off spinner is not great plan
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:11 AM
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That's true, but going 5 LH at the top with opponents best bowler betting an off spinner is not great plan
I am all for Liton Das in the top order since he merits his place in the 11. But an insecure WKing captain will not allow that. There lies the problem.

But if a team truly has all his best top order players left handed, then so be it. You don't play what opponent will do. You select your best team and play their game. All right handed heavy teams didn't just change their team line up just because Wasim Akram will be bowling from the other end. Or opposite because Murali will eat them alive.

Lyon is not Wasim or Murali. Play him as he should be played. Respect him as a class bowler and that is it.

Left right combination is much more important in ODIs and T20.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:17 AM
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So 2 of the 3 right handers scored 50s. Not a coincidence since Lyon did all the damage.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:20 AM
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Once 3 lefties fell to the same trap, Mushfiq should have countered the Australian plan by going ahead of Shakib. It is about reading the situation and countering opposition tactics.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:21 AM
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So 2 of the 3 right handers scored 50s. Not a coincidence since Lyon did all the damage.
Lyon didn't play the first test match? How many 50s did the right handers score in that? Co-incidence happens only for one match?
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:23 AM
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You see, they tried to do this Left-hand right hand combination in the 1st innings of the first match and pushed Sabbir in early and MISERABLY failed. You learn from your mistakes.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:24 AM
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Lyon didn't play the first test match? How many 50s did the right handers score in that?
What does the first test have to do with anything? This is a different game different pitch and a different situation. You see a ploy and you try to counter it.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:25 AM
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You see, they tried to do this Left-hand right hand combination in the 1st innings of the first match and pushed Sabbir in early and MISERABLY failed. You learn from your mistakes.
I said nothing about Shabbir going in early.
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Old September 4, 2017, 07:29 AM
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You see, they tried to do this Left-hand right hand combination in the 1st innings of the first match and pushed Sabbir in early and MISERABLY failed. You learn from your mistakes.
Mushy Should have batted at 4

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Old September 4, 2017, 07:46 AM
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What does the first test have to do with anything? This is a different game different pitch and a different situation. You see a ploy and you try to counter it.
You were glorifying the right handers in expense of the left handers. The truth is those two aren't capable in playing in the top order. It has been tested in the the last match with Sabbir. Unless we bring in Liton in the top order it will remain left handed top order.

As for Mushi before Sakib, that is a captain's decision. It worked out in the 1st test 1st innings in the previous match.

Stability at this level is more important in shuffling the order. We as a team, aren't in that position yet. Unstable Kayes founds himself in the chopping block now. And each position is specialized. You wouldn't want to open with Mushi or put him at 3 just to get a RH LH combo.

Just because we have Shakib and Taijul, Australia will shuffle their line up to suit the situation? I don't think so.
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Old September 4, 2017, 11:17 AM
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All lefties got runs in the 1st test ->Mushy is a great thinker...
All lefties failed in the 2nd innings ->Mushy is team MGT are dumb a$$ ...

So easy for us the keyboard warriors (including me!) to comment...


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On a serious note: When our batter give away their wickets, how can we blame captain or the coach?
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Old September 4, 2017, 11:18 AM
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I think we must give Liton a long run. He can play as a batsman only.

My XI would be.
Tamim
Liton
Mominul
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
Sabbir
Miraz
Kamrul/Subhasish/Taijul
Taskin
Mustafiz.

For SA tour, 1st test match.
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Old September 4, 2017, 11:20 AM
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I think we must give Liton a long run. He can play as a batsman only.

My XI would be.
Tamim
Liton
Mominul
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
Sabbir
Miraz
Kamrul/Subhasish/Taijul
Taskin
Mustafiz.

For SA tour, 1st test match.
You have left out Musaddek mate! M U S A D D E K!!
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Old September 4, 2017, 11:22 AM
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All lefties got runs in the 1st test ->Mushy is a great thinker...
All lefties failed in the 2nd innings ->Mushy is team MGT are dumb a$$ ...

So easy for us the keyboard warriors (including me!) to comment...


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On a serious note: When our batter give away their wickets, how can we blame captain or the coach?

The right and logical thing to do is to alternate the different type of batsmen.

This is elementary.
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Kayes's test days are over. Liton should replace him asap. Soumya will be replaced by mosaddek
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Too many left-handed Bangladeshi players.
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Old September 4, 2017, 01:37 PM
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Best batsmen bats 3 simple.

Tamim
Sarkar
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Mominul
Shakib
Mossa
Litton
Nasir/Sabbir/Taskin
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BD vs SA 2011 WC our top 4 batsmen were lefties and also specialized openers
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Old September 4, 2017, 01:50 PM
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Why is it called a tactical error?

Shouldn't it be miscalculation? Or shooting themselves in the foot?
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Why is it called a tactical error?

Shouldn't it be miscalculation? Or shooting themselves in the foot?
It's not miscalculation. Shooting in the foot? Yeah.

Bangladesh need to shuffle the batting order by not being too monotonous. It would have been great if we had RHB at the top order.

Lyon and mushy looked at ease against Lyon.

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Old September 4, 2017, 10:30 PM
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Match analysis from isam. He also said not a great tactic to load up on so many lefties at the top order.
https://youtu.be/9u5EjmVwz3g

The bottom line is this: if we have 5 good left handed batsmen then of course we have to play them. However the pitch was not turning and Lyon was getting the lbws to the lefties with the arm ball. A right hander would have found it easier to play Lyon on this pitch and that is evident by the end of the days play. Even if Nasir and Shabbir are ill equipped to go early, after 4 batsman got lbwed Mushfiq could have said ok this tactic from the Aussies is working and I am gonna go out and negate it.
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