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Old September 18, 2017, 11:07 AM
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Default ***BCB Constitution Illegal***

Mubasshar told Cricbuzz on Sunday the BCB has no rights to go ahead with the process. "Supreme Court rejected the constitution that was followed in last BCB election. So the board is illegal and they don't have any rights to proceed with any work," he said.


https://twitter.com/cricbuzz/status/909639402317537281

If Supreme Court rejected the constitution and made it illegal? How are they going ahead with the election?
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If anyone can expand on how BCB election works, that would be great.

+ on what basis do they get re-elected? Do they need to meet some criteria?

+ who elects them? Like the directors? How does the voting work?
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Old September 18, 2017, 01:43 PM
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Who is Mubasshar? Why we should believe him?
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Who is Mubasshar? Why we should believe him?
He is Former executive member.

Mubasshar, who fought a protracted legal battle with the National Sports Council (NSC) over BCB's constitution, requested the BCB's present board of directors not to continue the office and hold any AGM following recent Supreme Court verdict regarding the matter.

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I was wondering why there was no news in main media? But finally I found it. here it is in theDailyStar

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Former Bangladesh Cricket Board director Mobasher Hossain has sent a legal notice to the National Sports Council (NSC) asking the country's local sport's governing body to stop any and all functions of the present BCB board of directors, including president Nazmul Hasan.
Barrister Mahbub Shafique, on behalf of Mobasher, served the legal notice on Saturday asking the BCB president not only to stop all his activities but also to refrain from holding the upcoming AGM of the board which is scheduled to take place on September 30.
The notice, which was simultaneously served to the BCB and NSC, stated that the present committee of the BCB has lost its legality following the judgement of the Supreme Court on July 26 this year.


The apex court declared the amendment in the BCB constitution made in 2012 illegal, it also ruled that the BCB is the sole authority to amend its constitution, not the NSC, which can only consent or reject.


The present board had been elected under the 2012 constitution and Nazmul Hasan became the first elected BCB president in that campaign. The notice also said that the matter will be taken to court if action has not been taken within 72 hours upon receiving the notice.
I am not a lawyer, so my interpretation of the judgement may be wrong. What I get it from reading, it looks like :

1. The apex court declared amendment (made in 2012) in the BCB constitution illigal. (against BCB)

2. The apex court also declared that BCB (not NSC) is the sole authority to amend its constitution. (favors current BCB admin)

3. NSC can only accept or reject the change. (favors current BCB Admin)

So BCB need to amend the illegal change made in 2012 but the court didn't go far enough to call the current admin illegal. And BCB has all the muscle (financial, government) that it needs to legalize the mess. I see at the end Mubasshar will get a nice "balish for his nalish". For the fans, players and BCB everything will be as usual.

now if the government change, that's a different story.
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The Dhaka tribune

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The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) has been served with a legal notice to hang up their plan to hold AGM and EGM. The cricket board was scheduled to hold its first AGM and EGM in four years on October 3.

Former BCB director Mobasher Hossain has served the legal notice to BCB and also the National Sports Council (NSC). Mobasher, who has been in dispute with the current board of BCB directors for long now, has asked NSC to stop all functions of the present BCB board.

The legal notice served couple of days ago asked the BCB to refrain from holding all kinds of activities based on the claim that the current board lost its legality following the judgment of the Supreme Court on July 26 this year.
Again the same news as theDailyStar. Mobasher claim that current BCB board is illigal where-as court didn't go that far enough to call the current board illigal (based on my novice knowledge on law).

BCB need to change the constitution (amendment made on 2012). That part is clear. can BCB even appeal that to higher court? that's not clear to me.
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Former Mattobbor wants a share of the pie. That is all. What is legal in BD? NOTHING. I have a Khalamma, Apu and chacchu. All sides covered. Thorai care kori kaurey?
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National Sports Council (NSC) - which is the most dysfunctional body that represents all other sports in the country, just wants to influence cricket/BCB as well.

It's just another power grab. I side with BCB with this one. BCB should be independent and be able to run its own operations. There is a reason why all other sports in the country are going down the drain and full of corruption. Cricket is the only one that is managed in a quite efficient manner.

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If anyone can expand on how BCB election works, that would be great.

+ on what basis do they get re-elected? Do they need to meet some criteria?

+ who elects them? Like the directors? How does the voting work?
If anyone can answer this quoted questions, it would be very useful.

Who re-elects the current board of directors? How does it work

Is there some sort of performance metric used for board of directors in getting bonuses/payments etc?
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If anyone can answer this quoted questions, it would be very useful.

Who re-elects the current board of directors? How does it work

Is there some sort of performance metric used for board of directors in getting bonuses/payments etc?
read it here -- http://www.tigercricket.com.bd/policies-and-guidelines/

and you find all the info requested on this constitution.
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read it here -- http://www.tigercricket.com.bd/policies-and-guidelines/

and you find all the info requested on this constitution.
Damn. It's in Bengali, can't read it. Thanks for the link.

If anyone feels kind to read and translate, would be nice.

Just want to know how the process of re-election of directors work
How are they re-elected? who re-elects them. any performance metric used?
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Damn. It's in Bengali, can't read it. Thanks for the link.

If anyone feels kind to read and translate, would be nice.
It will be a full time job. How you plan to compensate the hours spent translating those?
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'বিসিবিকে আদালতের প্রতি সম্মান দেখানোর আহ্বান সাবেরের'

সাবেক বোর্ড পরিচালক স্থপতি মোবাশ্বের হোসেনের আইনজীবীর দেওয়া আইনি নোটিশ কাল বিসিবির কাছে পৌঁছেছে। তবে তাৎক্ষণিক প্রতিক্রিয়ায় বিষয়টিকে খুব একটা গুরুত্ব দিচ্ছে না তারা। যদি কোনো পদক্ষেপ নিতেও হয়, সেটি বোর্ড নেবে তাদের আইনজীবীর সঙ্গে কথা বলে। ওদিকে ২০১২ সালে সংশোধিত বিসিবির গঠনতন্ত্র এবং সে অনুযায়ী করা কাউন্সিলর তালিকাকে অবৈধ উল্লেখ করে বোর্ড সভাপতি নাজমুল হাসানকে চিঠি দিয়েছেন সাবেক সভাপতি সাবের হোসেন চৌধুরী। আদালতের রায়ের প্রতি সম্মান দেখিয়ে এই কাউন্সিলর তালিকা অনুযায়ী বিসিবির বার্ষিক সাধারণ সভা ও বিশেষ সভা আয়োজন না করার আহ্বান জানিয়েছেন তিনি।

গত ২৬ জুলাই দেওয়া বিসিবির গঠনতন্ত্র-সংক্রান্ত এক মামলার রায়ের ওপর ভিত্তি করে গত ১৬ সেপ্টেম্বর সাত ব্যক্তি ও প্রতিষ্ঠানকে আইনি নোটিশ দেওয়া হয়। ২০১৩-এর বোর্ড নির্বাচন এবং বর্তমান পরিচালনা পর্ষদকে অবৈধ দাবি করে বার্ষিক সাধারণ সভা ও বিশেষ সভা আয়োজনের প্রস্তুতিসহ বিসিবির সব কার্যক্রম বন্ধ করতে বলা হয় ওই নোটিশে।
কিন্তু কাল নোটিশ হাতে পাওয়ার পর বিসিবির পরিচালক লোকমান হোসেন ভূঁইয়া বলেছেন, ‘পরিচালনা পর্ষদকে অবৈধ বলার আইনগত কোনো অধিকার কারও নেই বলে আমি মনে করি। এটা বলতে পারেন শুধু আদালত। আদালত বোর্ডকে অবৈধ বলেননি। তারপরও আমরা আমাদের আইনজীবীদের সঙ্গে কথা বলে দেখব এর জবাব দেওয়ার দরকার আছে কি না।’ বিসিবির অবস্থান সম্ভবত আঁচ করতে পারছেন গঠনতন্ত্র-সংক্রান্ত মামলার বাদী মোবাশ্বের হোসেনও। আইনজীবীর মাধ্যমে তাই তিনি মামলার প্রস্তুতি নিচ্ছেন বলে জানা গেছে।
আয়োজন নিয়ে অন্য সমস্যায়ও পড়তে পারে বিসিবি। বর্তমান কমিটির সঙ্গে মতের অমিল আছে এমন অনেক কাউন্সিলরই সভায় যোগ না দেওয়ার চিন্তাভাবনা করছেন বলে জানা গেছে। বোর্ড সভাপতিকে দেওয়া সাবের হোসেন চৌধুরীর চিঠিতেও আছে সে আভাস। নিজের ক্লাব বারিধারা ড্যাজলারসের প্যাডে ১৫ সেপ্টেম্বর দেওয়া চিঠিতে সাবের হোসেন চৌধুরী লিখেছেন, সুপ্রিম কোর্টের আপিল বিভাগের রায় অনুযায়ী তিনি কাউন্সিলর হওয়ার যোগ্যতা রাখেন না। সভায় যোগদানের যে চিঠি তাঁকে বা অন্যদের দেওয়া হয়েছে, তা-ও যথাযথ নয়। কারণ, যে গঠনতন্ত্র অনুযায়ী এসব কাউন্সিলর ঠিক করা হয়েছে এবং তার ওপর ভিত্তি করে ২০১৩ সালে বিসিবির নির্বাচন হয়েছে, সেটি অবৈধ। বোর্ড সভাপতির কাছে তাঁর অনুরোধ, বর্তমান কাউন্সিলরদের নিয়ে যেন বিসিবি বার্ষিক সভা ও বিশেষ সভা আয়োজন না করে। কারণ, সেটি হবে আদালতের রায়ের পরিষ্কার অবমাননা।

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বিসিবির গঠনতন্ত্র-সংক্রান্ত এক মামলায় গত ২৬ জুলাই দেওয়া আপিল বিভাগের রায় নিজেদের পক্ষে দাবি করে ২ অক্টোবর বার্ষিক সাধারণ সভা (এজিএম) ও বিশেষ সাধারণ সভার তারিখ ঘোষণা করেছে বোর্ডের বর্তমান পরিচালনা পর্ষদ। এ মামলার বাদী স্থপতি মোবাশ্বের কদিন আগে সাধারণ সভা ও বিশেষ সভাসহ বোর্ডের সব কার্যক্রম বন্ধের জন্য বিসিবিকে আইনি নোটিশ পাঠিয়েছেন। অন্যদিকে আদালতের রায়ের প্রতি সম্মান দেখিয়ে ২০১২ সালে সংশোধিত বিসিবির গঠনতন্ত্র এবং সে অনুযায়ী করা কাউন্সিলর তালিকাকে অবৈধ উল্লেখ করে এজিএম না করতে বোর্ড সভাপতি নাজমুল হাসানকে চিঠি দিয়েছেন সাবের হোসেন চৌধুরী।

Nazmul Hasan's Reply to Press:
এই গঠনতন্ত্রটা (২০১২ সালে সংশোধিত) অবৈধ, এটা কোথায় বলা হয়েছে? কোনো রায়ে তো উল্লেখ নেই। ক্রিকেটে এগিয়ে যাচ্ছে বাংলাদেশ। এটার দায়িত্ব এখনো আমাদের হাতে। যত দিন থাকবে, তত দিন অগ্রযাত্রা ধরে রাখার চেষ্টা করব। যদি কেউ প্রতিবন্ধকতা তৈরির চেষ্টা করে, তাতে আমরা বিচলিত নই। আমরা কোনো বেআইনি কিছু করব না এটা নিশ্চিত।

Downside of not holding the AGM (according to Nazmul Hasan):
এজিএম যথাসময়ে হবে। এ নিয়ে আদালত থেকেও কিছু বলা হয়নি। একজন চিঠি দেবেন, একজন উকিল নোটিশ পাঠাবেন, আর তাতেই আমরা বন্ধ করে দেব? বন্ধ করলে এর প্রভাবটা কি হবে সেটা দেখেছেন? ১০ তারিখে আইসিসির বোর্ড মিটিং। আমরা ৮ মিলিয়ন থেকে যে ১৬ মিলিয়ন ডলার পাব, সেই সিদ্ধান্ত হবে এই মিটিংয়ে। ওখানে (এজিএম না হলে) আমাদের ঢুকতেই দেবে না। যদি বলেন অ্যাডহক কমিটি করবে, আইসিসি সেটাও অনুমোদন করবে না। ক্রিকেটের অগ্রযাত্রা তারা বন্ধ করতে চায়।

Nazmul Hasan's Reply to Saber Hossain's Letter:
সুপ্রিম কোর্ট থেকে সরাসরি নির্দেশ দিয়েছেন, ২০১২ সালের সংশোধিত গঠনতন্ত্র অনুযায়ী নির্বাচন হবে। আমরা ওটার মাধ্যমেই নির্বাচন করেছি। ওই গঠনতন্ত্রেই কাউন্সিলর হয়েছেন সাবের হোসেন চৌধুরী। তিনি যদি গঠনতন্ত্রই না মানেন, বেআইনি বলেন, তাহলে কাউন্সিলর হলেন কীভাবে? সুপ্রিম কোর্ট মামলাটির যখন শেষ নিষ্পত্তি করলেন, বলে দিয়েছেন, আমরা পুরোপুরি বৈধ। আইসিসি থেকেও গ্রহণযোগ্য ও অনুমোদিত। আমরা এজিএম ডেকে গঠনতন্ত্রে যদি কোনো পরিবর্তন আনা দরকার হয়, আইসিসির নিয়ম মেনে সেটা করে অনুমোদনের জন্য এনএসসির (জাতীয় ক্রীড়া পরিষদ) কাছে পাঠাব।



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I wish I knew how to read Bengali.
Feel like missing out on a lot of information.

What does the above news article say?
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I wish I knew how to read Bengali.
Feel like missing out on a lot of information.

What does the above news article say?
I can't translate the whole thing. I can give you a gist of it though:

Basically, what Papon is saying contradicts with Saber's letter. Papon is demanding that the court never said in ther verdict that current BCB embodiment (amendment in 2012) is illegal. Under the same amendment, Saber Hossain also became the BCB councilor (how come if it's illegal?). He also mentions that ICC won't allow BAN to be in the board meeting where BAN will likely get $8 - $16 mil if BCB doesn't hold AGM duly.
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Google translate does a good job with parts
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You can clearly smell the constitution is illegal.
They are trying to force it to make it look legal.

This is not good. Power grabbing with illegal use of a constitution.
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You can clearly smell the constitution is illegal.
They are trying to force it to make it look legal.

This is not good. Power grabbing with illegal use of a constitution.
where do you smell? explain so..

from the reports --

সুপ্রিম কোর্ট থেকে সরাসরি নির্দেশ দিয়েছেন, ২০১২ সালের সংশোধিত গঠনতন্ত্র অনুযায়ী নির্বাচন হবে। আমরা ওটার মাধ্যমেই নির্বাচন করেছি।
Translation - SC gave direct orders that election will be held according to 2012 revised constitution. And BCB held election based on that

সুপ্রিম কোর্ট মামলাটির যখন শেষ নিষ্পত্তি করলেন, বলে দিয়েছেন, আমরা পুরোপুরি বৈধ। আইসিসি থেকেও গ্রহণযোগ্য ও অনুমোদিত।
Translation - In the latest SC ruling, they have deemed this constitution to be legal. Even ICC declared it to be acceptable and approved it.

a) so not sure what you are smelling?
b) power grabbing from who?
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where do you smell? explain so..

from the reports --

সুপ্রিম কোর্ট থেকে সরাসরি নির্দেশ দিয়েছেন, ২০১২ সালের সংশোধিত গঠনতন্ত্র অনুযায়ী নির্বাচন হবে। আমরা ওটার মাধ্যমেই নির্বাচন করেছি।
Translation - SC gave direct orders that election will be held according to 2012 revised constitution. And BCB held election based on that

সুপ্রিম কোর্ট মামলাটির যখন শেষ নিষ্পত্তি করলেন, বলে দিয়েছেন, আমরা পুরোপুরি বৈধ। আইসিসি থেকেও গ্রহণযোগ্য ও অনুমোদিত।
Translation - In the latest SC ruling, they have deemed this constitution to be legal. Even ICC declared it to be acceptable and approved it.

a) so not sure what you are smelling?
b) power grabbing from who?
How does something that was deemed illegal by the apex court (amendment
Made in 2012 constitution) be used to elect board directors (when Papon etc was elected) That doesn't make legal sense. If they (board) was elected based on that amended constitution does that not simply make the board illegal?

Now coming to the new ruling. Here is the smelly part. It seems to me, Hasan bhia used his political powers influence to change the original ruling of the apex court and get a favourable outcome from SC. unfortunately I couldn't read the constitution, otherwise would have looked into how those directors would be re-elected again, on what basis etc.

Power grabbing = BCB wants no one else to oversee them. They want to have full authority. This is fundamentally a flawed approach, when you don't have a superior authority you can literally do whatever you want - as you (Papon has everyone on his side SC, Political powers etc), it's much easy to get away even doing illegal things.
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I didn't know Papon was that serious accusing Saber until I saw this (Papon's speech starts at 1:08):

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So... is the board legal or illegal or should I say undocumented resident or Dreamers?

Can the Prime-minister declare an executive order similar to DACA to make them legal for now?
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"If the 2012 BCB constitution is illegal then it is understood that the present executive committee under it is also illegal"

http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/b...-wrong-1468201
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Saber H Choundhury MP in response to my tweet to clarify if the board is illegal?

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Constitution under which they were elected has been declared unlawful by both High Court and Supreme Court
https://twitter.com/saberhc/status/912760240759820290
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