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Old October 3, 2017, 06:01 PM
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Mushy blaming his bowlers wouldve made sense if the game took place on a sporting wicket. To Mushy, I understand the bowlers were pretty pathetic but at the same time, it was YOU who chose a 4 men attack, 2 of them are not even regulars. When u walk into a game with 7 and a half batsmen on a flat wicket and you lose the game, the first bomb should be on the batsmen's tent (the tent you are living in). It took a whole new level of stupidity to come out and blame the bowlers right after getting bowled out under 100. And i think it takes no genius to understand that this pitch wasnt a 100 run pitch. If we scored 400+ on first innings and then 200 on the second innings and still lost, maybe it wouldve made sense. Still it would be harsh because he went with a severely weakened bowling attack.

No doubt our bowling has been very poor. But our batsmen lost us the game in the end...
And a wise captain never sells his team under the bus like that. You take it up with the coach, the selection panel, the management if needed. But in the media, you ALWAYS take a collective blame.

I am almost getting disinterested to watch the game when Mushy is captaining. His captaincy just gets in my nerve every time
What ? Our batsmn lost us the game in the end? U expected us to score 400+ or survive the whole day 5 ?

We lost the game because of Mushy's poor decision to bowl first, then he was helped by our pathetic bowling.
No matter how flat it is no matter how inexperienced the bowlers are at this level u expect your bowlers to contain runs, to bowl wicket to wicket.
We lost the game on day 1 and 2 , on day 2 our bowlers repeated the same mistake.
Thses guys are professionals , they get paid to bowl and take wickets, if they cant take wickets then atleast bowl with some discipline and intent.
If you can do neither the captain has every right to criticize you.
Just because Mushy is a dumb captain does not take away his right to criticize his own players.
And no one is selling/throwing anyone under the bus.
As a professional if you can't even do the basics right then u have to accept criticizme.
Eita shantona deyar jayga na, stump to stump bowl korteo jodi na parey tahole etodin ki shikhsey ?
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Old October 4, 2017, 04:29 AM
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What ? Our batsmn lost us the game in the end? U expected us to score 400+ or survive the whole day 5 ?

We lost the game because of Mushy's poor decision to bowl first, then he was helped by our pathetic bowling.
No matter how flat it is no matter how inexperienced the bowlers are at this level u expect your bowlers to contain runs, to bowl wicket to wicket.
We lost the game on day 1 and 2 , on day 2 our bowlers repeated the same mistake.
Thses guys are professionals , they get paid to bowl and take wickets, if they cant take wickets then atleast bowl with some discipline and intent.
If you can do neither the captain has every right to criticize you.
Just because Mushy is a dumb captain does not take away his right to criticize his own players.
And no one is selling/throwing anyone under the bus.
As a professional if you can't even do the basics right then u have to accept criticizme.
Eita shantona deyar jayga na, stump to stump bowl korteo jodi na parey tahole etodin ki shikhsey ?
It'll be fine if he criticised everywhere criticism was due, he didn't, he used this criticism to deflect away from his own mistakes, which was the biggest cause for the size of defeat, by using the criticism as a deflection away from him, he threw the bowlers under the bus.

Bowlers, especially young ones need help from captain, mushfiq provided none. Sure you criticise a striker for not scoring goals, but you can't expect him to score many with a weak midfield. Same applies for bowlers
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Old October 4, 2017, 12:34 PM
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Riyad Bhai had the potential to be a decent off spinner but ....
Potential dhuyee aar koto din? Riyad Bhai tou aar kotodin por medicare-e qualify korbe.
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Old October 4, 2017, 12:35 PM
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Bloemfontein pitch is said to be traditional pacer friendly SA pitch. Faf will prolly win the toss this time and send BD to bat first. After the first innings disaster, Mushfiq will tell the press "See, I told ya - you don't want to bat first in SA!"
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Old October 4, 2017, 12:39 PM
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... or Musfiq will win the toss and bat first and Faf will smile. Mushfiq will still tell the press "See, I told you ... batting 1st is not a good idea." This time he will again rip off the FBs for not helping the team with the bat in the first innings.
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Old October 4, 2017, 12:46 PM
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^^Nah, that's unlikely, because he is a coward. As stupid he is, he will do his best to hide from SA pacers as long as he can.
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Old October 4, 2017, 03:57 PM
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He is the worst captain in the history of any sport. A shame to his sport and country.
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Old October 4, 2017, 08:41 PM
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I have lost all interest watching cricket when the team is led by a captain who lacks common sense let alone cricket sense. To me however head coach should take greater responsibility for all these dumb moves and decisions. What does the head coach do when Mushy is running a circus in the match? Does he sleep or thinks about his next job? Nowadays NFL or College Football is so much more fun to watch....you can see how the head coaches are so proactive...
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Old October 4, 2017, 10:04 PM
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He is the worst captain in the history of any sport. A shame to his sport and country.
I find the last part of this post to be of very poor taste.

look around in the forum, everyone is criticizing mushfik of his captaincy and how he is handling the young players, nobody is a saint. Mushfik isn't one also. he has shortcomings in his character, as a player and and as a captain.

but to label him as a shame to his country?, He has brought joy and pride to his country multiple times as a player.

He has done more than some of us will ever do for this country
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Old October 4, 2017, 10:09 PM
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I have lost all interest watching cricket when the team is led by a captain who lacks common sense let alone cricket sense. To me however head coach should take greater responsibility for all these dumb moves and decisions. What does the head coach do when Mushy is running a circus in the match? Does he sleep or thinks about his next job? Nowadays NFL or College Football is so much more fun to watch....you can see how the head coaches are so proactive...
We complain against Hathuru if he controls too much, now we are complaining he is not controlling enough!

I personally like the idea of the head coach providing guideline, not dictating every decision. Cricket is not NFL, you won't succeed in this game if you don't have a good brain, especially when it comes to Test cricket.
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Old October 4, 2017, 10:32 PM
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The batsmen were piss poor in second innings. No offense but South Africa were lacking: Philander, Steyn this was pretty much a B+ *not as threatening* bowling lineup on a placid track and yet Bangladesh in 2017 gets dismissed for 90 runs... I don't think the Tushar Imran's or the Naeem Islam's or the Shahriar Nafees or Saif Hassans or Nazmul Hossain Shantos would have done this bad. This was a PATHETIC SHAMBOLIC performance by all accounts.

The pitch even on a fifth day didn't have much but Bangladeshi "batsmen" made a hash out of it. The only bowler who was unplayable was M. Morkel. and by the time he left, he did his job(take out two best Bangladeshi batsmen). Other than K. Maharaj and Morkel South African bowling wasn't that exceptional.


Absolutely disgusting performance!

Oh about the bowling:

It is the job of the captain and the bowler to communicate properly on field setting (Mashrafee and many other class international captains does this quite well most of the time). Why blame the bowlers when there is no slip for your seamers or there is a lack of catching option for spin close to the batsmen when miraz was bowling. The field placement was atrocious at best.

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Old October 5, 2017, 02:21 AM
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We complain against Hathuru if he controls too much, now we are complaining he is not controlling enough!

I personally like the idea of the head coach providing guideline, not dictating every decision. Cricket is not NFL, you won't succeed in this game if you don't have a good brain, especially when it comes to Test cricket.
He controls too much on team selection, toss and game strategy. But as far as game execution is concerned, he is not proactive. The game is slipping away with so many blunders by the captain, yet I dont see he intervenes.

Our players and captains needs to be spoonfed, hence we need a lot more proactive coach.
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Old October 5, 2017, 09:50 AM
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Mushfiq clarify why he washed his bowlers.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/sports/ar...শফিক
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Old October 5, 2017, 10:05 AM
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#facepalm.

Toss'a jite batting pitch'a bowling nisili kaan? agey oi kotha k!!! Jottoshob.
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Old October 5, 2017, 11:52 AM
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emon captain ar koyta achey je nij haat ey tar bowler der dhuye dey?
Shafiul ke obossho dhowar por shukano hoy nai karon shey emnei shukna.
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Old October 5, 2017, 02:03 PM
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Manush mara gele onney (onno manush) dhuey dey. Amader bowler-ra ke mrito?
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Old October 5, 2017, 02:09 PM
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Mushfiq clarify why he washed his bowlers.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/sports/ar...শফিক
Does that means Mushfiq was happy with our over-loaded batsman (with one extra batsman)?

Amader batsmanra 90 te all out hoye gelo, mushfiq-er batting-er bapare kichuee bolar chilona?

The less he talks, the better it is. His logic doesn't make much sense to me.
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Old October 6, 2017, 01:28 AM
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Why doesn't Mushfiqur blame the selectors for choosing nonsense guys like Shafiul ? I guess he doesn't want to lose his place as Captain(assuming they chose the captain too)
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