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Old October 15, 2017, 12:53 PM
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Default BD Cricket Needs a Fast Bowling Academy

ASAP.

Somehow, I think that there are bowlers who are at both sides of the bowling spectrum in BD, either they are really good... or they are beyond poor.

They transition from a domestic fast bowler to an international pacer seems to have a great divide.

Are there any fast bowling coaches in the first class arena? Or is more attention being paid to the SLAs in this era of cricket?

A fast bowling academy would be far resourceful for BD cricket, the modern game demands a thinking fast bowler, not a tonking one.

Before a fast bowler makes his international debut, he should have knowledge( or some) to think critically in certain situations. When a batsman is trying to attack, they should know to pull back on length, and to a certain degree, line.

But you might ask, "What's the point in all of this?" Simply answer: contain, and still be effective.

Basic stuff..., stuff that needn't be introduced to the bowler at the highest level of the game. This they can easily learn at a pacer's academy. The essence of fast bowling is out-manipulating the batsman with smarts, and cliché stuff (same length and line). The bowler should be brave enough to try new things if the plan at hand has been demolished by the batsmen.

This is where knowing where your fielders are comes into the fold. Communicating with your skipper, "Do you need an extra slip?", "Can you please drop the 3rd man?", " I need a short leg".

Try to be proactive. Frustration and anger can come easily to a fast bowler when he is leaking runs and not taking wickets. This frustrating feeling can be redirected to a good rhythm and bowling within one's self.

An academy can help bowlers who have struggled at the International stage because they lack certain qualities. Think of the academy as a repair shop, it tunes up lubricates a bowler who is spent and rusty. It sharpens the bowler whose talent is raw (mostly under-19 players), and maintain a good number of bowlers who, at anytime are ready for callup to the national team at a dime's notice. There is a big element of comradery and a sense of pride involved among the fast bowlers. They share secrets and build on that.

The result will change dramatically in the pace battery area if somehow BD can produce some quality fast bowling. I hope they can get funding

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What are your thoughts about this?
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Old October 15, 2017, 12:57 PM
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The MRF Pace foundation has done wonders for India.
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Old October 15, 2017, 01:03 PM
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The MRF Pace foundation has done wonders for India.
True that

Look at the quality of fast bowlers that India is producing.
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Old October 15, 2017, 01:05 PM
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Funding should not be the problem here. It is the vision and willingness from top level what is required here.

I am really not hopeful here.
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Old October 15, 2017, 01:09 PM
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Funding should not be the problem here. It is the vision and willingness from top level what is required here.

I am really not hopeful here.
So a stagnated vision on fast bowling development?
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Old October 15, 2017, 01:17 PM
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So a stagnated vision on fast bowling development?
We never had good vision regarding grass-root and intermediate development.

The board has billions in the bank which is increasing day by day. But we don't have a proper A team touring regularly abroad. We don't have regional cricket bodies with proper facilities and coaches. We don't have bouncy and fast wickets anywhere in the country. We have no plans to strengthen longer version of cricket. The list can grow on and on.

Immediate success is important. BCB prefers that and as a result Hathuru got so much power. Long term success requires a lot of basic works to be done. Nobody is serious about it in our country.
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Old October 15, 2017, 01:24 PM
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We never had good vision regarding grass-root and intermediate development.

The board has billions in the bank which is increasing day by day. But we don't have a proper A team touring regularly abroad. We don't have regional cricket bodies with proper facilities and coaches. We don't have bouncy and fast wickets anywhere in the country. We have no plans to strengthen longer version of cricket. The list can grow on and on.

Immediate success is important. BCB prefers that and as a result Hathuru got so much power. Long term success requires a lot of basic works to be done. Nobody is serious about it in our country.
This is so sad. I felt melancholy as I was reading this. So much money, and yet the developmental side of the game is ignored.

Players are awarded huge sums of money when they win a series, yet the things like player development is ignored.

On the subject of wickets not suited for pace bowling. This is easily addressed: indoor wickets which are modeled to replicate bouncier wickets from around the world. It can be done, and it costs less than the billions.
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We have directors that illegally became board members... based on illegal constitution..
Now they are busy re-electing themselves illegally.

You think they have time for this academy etc? who will look after the interest of the board directors?
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Old October 16, 2017, 04:07 AM
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Well here is the thing...

We have a HP academy supposed to run camps throughout the year But this only resumed last year, after a hiatus of many many years.

So forget a pace academy, we dont have the consistency and discipline to run a "General" coaching academy professionally around the year.

We start initiatives, these stall only to disappear for 5-6 years before reappearing again.
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Old October 16, 2017, 09:27 AM
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Well here is the thing...

We have a HP academy supposed to run camps throughout the year But this only resumed last year, after a hiatus of many many years.

So forget a pace academy, we dont have the consistency and discipline to run a "General" coaching academy professionally around the year.

We start initiatives, these stall only to disappear for 5-6 years before reappearing again.
Well, here is where the problems (one of many) lies.
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I miss coach Ian Pont.
I think we need him very badly.
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Old October 16, 2017, 11:41 AM
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I miss coach Ian Pont.
I think we need him very badly.
He's not coming back though?

Hope he logs back on
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Old October 16, 2017, 11:45 AM
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He's not coming back though?
Hope he logs back on
If coach agrees to come back to Bangladesh and starts a Speedster Bowling Training School, I will sell my family jomi/land, house, cows, cowboys, baby goats, my late momma's jewelries in DHaka/village everything, all...and will fund him full force. I will even pull my money out of the Scientologists and give the good coach that money instead. Seriously.

If the coach does not come at all...I will give the money to the Communist Party.
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Old October 16, 2017, 11:51 AM
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If coach agrees to come back to Bangladesh and starts a Speedster Bowling Training School, I will sell my family jomi/land, house, cows, cowboys, baby goats, my late momma's jewelries in DHaka/village everything, all...and will fund him full force. I will even pull my money out of the Scientologists and give the good coach that money instead. Seriously.
Well, oh my my dear brother Zaved, you are really invested in the youths of the country. A very kind gesture

If I had the resources, I would fly to BD to open a fast bowling academy, and nurture the raw talent in bowlers who are hungry like the Bengal tigers in the Sundarbans (although I know that most of the Tigers are well-fed).

Fast bowlers are like swords, they need the whetstone ever so often
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Old October 17, 2017, 12:56 PM
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Even if it takes a bit of time to get a pace academy going, there's nothing stopping BD board from sending its top prospects and players to the MRF academy. Plenty of non-Indian pace bowlers have done this in the past.

There are many on this forum may whose egos may not be able to handle it though.
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Old October 17, 2017, 02:16 PM
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I miss coach Ian Pont.
I think we need him very badly.
agree. he is the best guy to work with teenagers who have any talent.

I think BCB has a rule which prevents pace bowlers from bowling more than 15 overs a day. That must be lifted asap. If you cant bowl 20 overs a day in first class cricket your body will not be conditioned to do that in test cricket. And Taskin should be told to play one season of first class before being allowed in test matches.
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Old October 17, 2017, 02:20 PM
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Even if it takes a bit of time to get a pace academy going, there's nothing stopping BD board from sending its top prospects and players to the MRF academy. Plenty of non-Indian pace bowlers have done this in the past.

There are many on this forum may whose egos may not be able to handle it though.
lol! might be right on the last part.

But I believe Bangladeshi bowlers were sent to MRF pace academy when Bangladesh was new in test cricket. Mashrafe went for sure before he debuted in 2001. I think Talha and Manju ( left arm pacer. played in 99' WC) were sent to South Africa. No reason not to send youngsters or even old men like Rubel who hasn't learned a thing in the last 8-9 years of international cricket
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Old October 17, 2017, 10:28 PM
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IndYeah, the problem is such academies need to work with bowlers on a long term basis. 1 month or 2 month stint will not necessarily make improvements.
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Old October 18, 2017, 01:41 AM
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We ll establish this facility soon as per Papon .
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