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Old June 16, 2017, 02:12 AM
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Planning is to avoid sudden changes in line up in the tournament. If you look at successful teams in past WCs, they had set line up with maybe one or two changes adjusting to conditions or injuries. Not like changing the no 3 spot and all of a sudden and all these. Imrul was told to bat at 3 and its unfair to him as well as sabbir and the whole BD. You cant groom someone for the whole season then change his place. It upsets everything.
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Old June 16, 2017, 02:34 AM
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Roman bhai the 2019 WC will be 10 team in the same group with each playing 9 games. the top 4 will play the semi.

we'll probably be out in the group stages. the format demands 4-5 wins against top teams. one or two wins here and there wont take us to the semi
3 win and 1 wash out will do.
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Old June 16, 2017, 02:44 AM
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Why didnt we stick with 2015 batting order?? This could be perfect in English conditions.
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Old June 16, 2017, 03:41 AM
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Mosa/Sabbir need proper batting coach and A team tours. Nasir must replace Mosa.

Shanto should be tried at 3 for a longer time.

Soumya needs batting coach as well desperately.

Gazi needs to be back in the fringes to challenge Miraz.

Tail needs to wag. Need batting coach.

Basically we DEFINITELY need a batting coach!
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Old June 16, 2017, 03:50 AM
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Liton out of anyone deserves another chance, shanto of the untested deserves opportunities the most.
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Old June 16, 2017, 04:38 AM
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Mashrafe needs to retire with some pride.
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Old June 16, 2017, 07:10 AM
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How about Soumya down the order? Sabbir and Soumya down the order for the last 10 overs...
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Old June 20, 2017, 03:47 AM
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Management and coaches need to figure out what team they want for the next WC then they need to give that team experience, now is the stage to test out players so in a years time they can for the most part pick the WC team so they have a year together and are settled and a good cohesive unit.

Imo that means giving guys like liton, shanto, saifuddin, mehedi and hider exposure as well as giving Sabbir, Soumya, mosaddek more experience. And if nasir is in the plans then they need to give him matches.

It won't happen but if we could play one of the weaker teams I'd love to see a line up like this:

Tamim
Liton
Shanto
Mushy
Shakib
Sabbir/Soumya
Sabbir/Soumya
Saifuddin/hider/mehedi/jubair
Fizz
taskin/rubel
Mash

Could even give nasir a few matches either at 3 or down the order.

Testing out players might mean resting some of the experienced ones like tamim/mushy/riyad/mash/shakib, obviously not all at once.
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Old June 20, 2017, 08:35 AM
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Where is abu haider lost? He is no where to be found now. What a farce.
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Old June 20, 2017, 05:48 PM
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Where is abu haider lost? He is no where to be found now. What a farce.
Had a really good DPL, needs to get some match experience over the next couple of years.
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Old June 21, 2017, 05:23 AM
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One more thing. We can't go into the tournament with Mosaddek. Mosaddek is woeful against pace. He cant play pace for life and his technique is really poor.

He shuffles back quite a lot. And his leg side play is really poor. If liton is poor on off then Mosaddek is poor towards the leg

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Old June 21, 2017, 09:47 AM
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Has Mehedi Maruf and Shariar Nafees been mentioned yet?

Also, the 4 pacers thing may not work out for us. Life would be much easier if we could find a massive turner of the ball.
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Old June 21, 2017, 09:55 AM
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Anyway, I've seen saying it for a long time, especially during T20 matches with SL that Mehedi Maruf should be introduced at once into T20i. If he does well in T20, he can also be tried for ODI's.

Shariar Nafees can also be called back for ODI/Tests.
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Old October 22, 2017, 08:35 AM
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Where do we stand now? Either we need to stick with current crop or introduce new. We can not introduce new guys just before world cup and expect them to do well out of blue moon. My opinion is stick with the guys those are playing till wc 2019 and then take it from there. But Imrul Kayes needs to be dropped.
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Old October 22, 2017, 08:36 AM
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Old October 22, 2017, 08:37 AM
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Old October 22, 2017, 12:19 PM
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In last three years, in Eng, Aus, SA, and NZ, places where ball does not grip on the surface, here are our bowling stats -


Taskin Ahmed 14 14 116.0 2 771 17 3/43 45.35 6.64 40.9 0 0
Rubel Hossain 13 13 106.3 1 663 15 4/53 44.20 6.22 42.6 2 0
Shakib Al Hasan 16 15 140.4 1 799 15 4/55 53.26 5.68 56.2 1 0
Mashrafe Mortaza 15 15 135.5 4 757 12 3/20 63.08 5.57 67.9 0 0
Mustafizur Rahman 6 6 48.2 2 277 5 2/32 55.40 5.73 58.0 0 0
Mosaddek Hossain 6 6 25.2 0 151 4 3/13 37.75 5.96 38.0 0 0
Nasir Hossain 5 5 32.0 0 177 4 2/32 44.25 5.53 48.0 0 0
Mehidy Hasan Miraz 2 2 11.0 0 63 2 2/59 31.50 5.72 33.0 0 0
Sabbir Rahman 16 10 23.1 0 167 2 1/13 83.50 7.20 69.5 0 0
Mahmudullah 16 10 33.0 1 211 1 1/31 211.00 6.39 198.0 0 0
Subashis Roy 1 1 10.0 1 45 1 1/45 45.00 4.50 60.0 0 0

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

Looking at the average of 63, I think Mash will be the wrong person to lead the team here, as he himself admitted he does not enjoy playing outside Bangladesh. We can't relay much on Fizz in England either. Coaches should focus on developing few pacers who can produce conventional seam/swing movements (Rony, Roy, Ebadat).
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Old October 22, 2017, 01:03 PM
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Mashrafe alarmed by Bangladesh's one-day woes
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"This tour has been alarming for Bangladesh cricket and with more bilateral tours and the World Cup coming up we, as a playing unit, have to look after these things quickly," Mashrafe said. "I think we are not having enough confidence to bat and bowl. We haven't adjusted to the conditions. But it has been happening since the Champions Trophy. We have to improve quickly or the overseas bilateral series in the future will become very difficult.

"Neither the batsmen nor the bowlers took responsibilities. I think we have to find out from the particular players why we are unable to play better. I don't think this can be solved by training a lot in South Africa in the coming days. This is a long-term issue, a long process. We have to be prepared to play on these types of wickets the next time we go on a tour.
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Old October 22, 2017, 01:05 PM
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Where do we stand now? Either we need to stick with current crop or introduce new. We can not introduce new guys just before world cup and expect them to do well out of blue moon. My opinion is stick with the guys those are playing till wc 2019 and then take it from there. But Imrul Kayes needs to be dropped.
Opposite is true for in case of Bangladesh.

In 2007 WC we had sudden new faces in previous 1 to 1.5 years to the likes of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiq etc. Among which Mushfiq's was to the axe of fan popular Masud. And Tamim's inclusion was criticized by many because he was too young.

You saw the results

In 2011 WC, Siddons and Co decided to stick with ROCKibul(2007/8 debut) and Xunaid(2008/9 debut) who were out of form. Also Ashraful was yet again picked despite of poor form and not so 'only superstar' in the team flavors which got him saved previously with the arrival of Shakib and Tamim. We didn't had that much new faces.

Almost like your plan, isn't it.

Again you saw the results.

In 2015 WC we again had sudden new faces 'out of the blue' like Soumya, Taskin, Shabbir and all of them debuting less than a year before it.

Agaain..you have seen the outcome.

Now do you want to check out the recent domestic or under age levels talent to again to help us move away our misery by their short time initial outbursts yet again or not


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Old October 23, 2017, 12:34 AM
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Can someone do a quick check of the ICC Laws and tell if its possible to opt out of this world cup?

Forget the rankings, but there are come countries like Windies and Afghanistan that deserve it more than us.
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Old October 23, 2017, 04:02 AM
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Here's my opinion.

Get the basics straight. First and foremost, select the right players for the right format. Keeping WC'19 in mind, we need to do the following -

* Find (or re-find) a opening partner for Tamim. Only options for now are Imrul and Shoumya. Among the 2, Imrul at least gets some runs. SS has been barren since 2015. Hence stick with Imrul or find a guy who has capability to replace him.

* No. 3. Big headache. I say we need to make a bold move. We have 2 years to WC'19. Bring in Shanto and groom him in this position by giving him a run till WC. Stick with him and improve him. Shanto is a proven performer, he will not do worse then the legends we have in this position atm.

* Groom Saifuddin as pinch-hitting allrounder. He did fine in the game he debuted. Why wasnt he given the whole series? Keep him in the side and improve his hitting skills. As long as he can bowl in the middle overs and preserve runs, he should be in the starting 11. He should replace Shabbir permanently, who adds absolutely nothing.

* Where the eff is Al Amin Hossain? Replace Taskin with him permanently. He's got the line and length, height and variations. Why isn't he being persisted with? With Rubel being our best death-over bowler, Al Amin can hold the other end well enough.

These should be the compulsory changes. Too early now, but my probable starting 11 in WC'19 would be -

Tamim
Imrul (or someone proven enough to replace him)
Shanto
Mushfiqur
Shakib
Riyad
Saifuddin
Mashrafi
Rubel
Fizz
Al Amin

I think this squad has it in it.
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Old October 23, 2017, 04:39 AM
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Keep in mind the aussies and sri lanka lost 5-0 to this SA team in the recent past. SA play at a whole new level when its not an icc trophy. As i have been saying we do have problems but it is not as bad as it seems like on this tour.
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Old October 23, 2017, 09:19 AM
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Keep in mind the aussies and sri lanka lost 5-0 to this SA team in the recent past. SA play at a whole new level when its not an icc trophy. As i have been saying we do have problems but it is not as bad as it seems like on this tour.
It is not that black and white, they don't just roll over and die during ICC tournaments, it is a combination of bad luck and vulnerability of their big names especially Amla who goes missing where scoring runs really matter. I however will bet on BD to win against SA any day of the week and twice on sundays if it is a knock out match of an ICC trophy. You are right though they are altogether a different beast when it comes to the bilaterals.
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Old October 23, 2017, 11:28 AM
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But, can this be the bottom line?
Hamra actually Haru Party?
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