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Old October 21, 2017, 12:07 PM
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Said before Taskin got his test debut...when everyone was committing harakiri because he hadn't been selected for test yet...

Besides being young and susceptible to injuries, he didn't seem like someone who'd do well in tests. His strength is speed. He lacks variation and deadly deliveries to take test wickets. Isn't an intelligent bowler either. He plays with heart. This type of bowler can be a very good LOI bowler with better speed and accuracy. And with better speed and accuracy, he can be an OK test bowler later, but certainly doesn't have the tools to be one now.

Harakiri then, and he's a useless nobody now. There's never any balance.

And we desperately need a half-decent bowling coach for our young bowlers for better guidance. They seem completely lost now.
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Old October 21, 2017, 12:30 PM
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Such a shame how we are trashing him. He was one of the greatest prospects.... alas.
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Old October 22, 2017, 03:22 AM
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Fizz action is somewhat similar to Amir's. I guess Bumrah should deteriote immediately given that his action right up there as the weirdest action of all time, right?
The only reason fizz got success early in his career was because of the fact that he could drastically change his bowling speed without making hardly any changes in his bowling action.

That's why I called it unique. Not many bowlers in the world could do that. Initially most of the batters struggled to distinguish fizz's normal deliveries from the slower ones which is why a lot of them struggled against him heavily both in IPL and international cricket.


But the problem is, batsmen have played him enough to figure out his slower deliveries. Fizz can no longer deceive the batsman with his slowers and this is one of the main reasons why he's getting thrashed everywhere regardless of pitch and conditions.


Unless fizz can miraculously learn to swing or seam the ball he will face the the similar fate of Ajanta Mendis. I think i've already discussed this matter with u in some other thread. I don't wanna repeat it again. But the truth is, fizz is just a better version of D.Bravo.....nothing more.
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Old October 22, 2017, 04:37 AM
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Trash king showing his ATG prowess again. Never disappoint.
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Old October 22, 2017, 05:53 AM
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Can mods, kindly add a poll
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Old October 22, 2017, 04:07 PM
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The only reason fizz got success early in his career was because of the fact that he could drastically change his bowling speed without making hardly any changes in his bowling action.

That's why I called it unique. Not many bowlers in the world could do that. Initially most of the batters struggled to distinguish fizz's normal deliveries from the slower ones which is why a lot of them struggled against him heavily both in IPL and international cricket.


But the problem is, batsmen have played him enough to figure out his slower deliveries. Fizz can no longer deceive the batsman with his slowers and this is one of the main reasons why he's getting thrashed everywhere regardless of pitch and conditions.


Unless fizz can miraculously learn to swing or seam the ball he will face the the similar fate of Ajanta Mendis. I think i've already discussed this matter with u in some other thread. I don't wanna repeat it again. But the truth is, fizz is just a better version of D.Bravo.....nothing more.
So Im guessing Hasan Ali and Bumrah will get figured out even quicker given they dont know how to seam or swing the ball either right?

We've had a few discussions...forums are all about repetition. That shouldnt fatigue one. We all have our buzzwords and talking points. Remember that time you had to bring up every meaningless tri series final to make the absurd claim that Tendulkar wasn't a choker?
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Old October 24, 2017, 12:24 AM
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So Im guessing Hasan Ali and Bumrah will get figured out even quicker given they dont know how to seam or swing the ball either right?

We've had a few discussions...forums are all about repetition. That shouldnt fatigue one. We all have our buzzwords and talking points. Remember that time you had to bring up every meaningless tri series final to make the absurd claim that Tendulkar wasn't a choker?
No comparison. Unlike fizz, both Hasan and Bumrah have all the key ingredients to become successful loi bowlers.

Both of them can consistently bowl over 140 and can clock it up to 145 without even breaking a sweat. I really don't know why r u saying that Bumrah and Hasan can't swing or seam the ball. Both Bumrah and Hasan r excellent seam bowlers and their ability to reverse the ball at the back end of the innings has made them even more deadly.

Don't forget that both of them can bowl yorker almost at will. They r few of the bowlers who r equally effective at the beginning of the innings as well as at the back end of the innings.

Compared to them fizz is well......lets not get into the details. But yes, fizz is a unique bowler, it's itself an achievement, no doubt. I don't hesitate to give credit where it's due. I'll give him credit for achieving the status of world's fastest spinner.
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Old October 24, 2017, 12:31 AM
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No comparison. Unlike fizz, both Hasan and Bumrah have all the key ingredients to become successful loi bowlers.

Both of them can consistently bowl over 140 and can clock it up to 145 without even breaking a sweat. I really don't know why r u saying that Bumrah and Hasan can't swing or seam the ball. Both Bumrah and Hasan r excellent seam bowlers and their ability to reverse the ball at the back end of the innings has made them even more deadly.

Don't forget that both of them can bowl yorker almost at will. They r few of the bowlers who r equally effective at the beginning of the innings as well as at the back end of the innings.

Compared to them fizz is well......lets not get into the details. But yes, fizz is a unique bowler, no doubt..... I'll give him credit for achieving the status of world's fastest spinner.
almost Everything you have written applies to the Fizz as well. I cant speak of Hasan, but I havent seen Bumrah seam the ball.

Consistenly bowls 140, check.
145? çheck...got that in this SA tour in fact.
reverse swing, check.
yorker, check.
Back end of innings, check.

Fizz I think still has better stats than both, and has only played 5 games against minnows.
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Old October 24, 2017, 02:05 AM
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It’s alleged that Taskin trying put the loss behind him while visiting a casino on the day of the match.

His maasti party consisted of good for nothing Shafiul and Old is not gold Nasir.

I don’t care what they do in their personal lives but the timing doesn’t seem right to me.
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Old October 24, 2017, 02:17 AM
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look at the bright side, at least they didn't emulate strokes
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Old October 24, 2017, 03:21 AM
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You never know, this may have a silver lining. If Shafiul and Nasir get the same treatment as Al Amin did, we will never have to see their faces ever again in the National team
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Old October 24, 2017, 04:03 AM
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Hasan Ali is a clearcut proof-that sometimes you dont have to do anything extraordinary to take wickets.

Very accurate, consistently around 140, wont give you anything to play with. You want to hit him for a four, try and see.

Sth Fizz can take note of. I feel Fizz wont be effective until he works up his pace to the 140 range. The Fizz who made an impact in year 1 was also extremely accurate, bowled brilliant yorkers. Slower deliveries were not necessarily his only tools.
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Old October 24, 2017, 10:34 AM
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look at the bright side, at least they didn't emulate strokes
Bahaha guys like Shafiul and Nasir taking a punch??
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Old October 24, 2017, 12:50 PM
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Abul Hasan can be a good bowler, and be bit like Hasan Ali. I see potential in Abul, the way he bowls which seems to me that he bowls a heavy ball. Definitely, can be effectively in SA,Eng, NZ conditions. Sadly, he has not got a chance to play in those conditions but the BD selectors are fine with giving deadwoods chances after chances. Taskin has had an ultra miserable tour to SA, NZ last year. Shafiul? Less said the better. Rubel is good for ODI, that’s it,should never play test.
But BD has the habit of keep picking some players for the wrong format. Like Shafiul and Rubel at test. Shafiul did good in bpl and thats a t20 league so therefore select him for it20, not freaking at test cricket, you stupid moronic selector.
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Old October 24, 2017, 12:55 PM
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So Abul is our Hasan Ali.

Now who will be our Usman Khan and Shadab?

Then our bowling will be set.


After that we need to find our Imam-ul-Haq, Fakhar, and Babar.
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Old October 24, 2017, 12:57 PM
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I think BD has already covered that
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Old October 24, 2017, 10:20 PM
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This thread should be locked, its a sin to compare Troshkin with Child Beater Shahadat.
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Old October 25, 2017, 06:11 AM
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Taskin is a Model. Bangladesh film industry could do with him instead, even though they have some better heroes now who have started making good films at last. Tbh not even sure if he can act he is shy and giggling type. Maybe just out and out poster model, he loves his poses and selfies, model for clothing/fashion brands. Cricket isn’t his thing. A case of someone in the wrong profession.
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