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Old November 9, 2017, 08:48 PM
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I think this should be general guideline for BCB, to find the new coach:

1) Someone willing to work with a pool of 30 players through out the year, not someone there only to prepare 15-20 players before each series.

2) Someone who won't rubbish domestic performers, but willing to work with them, to help them overcome the gap between domestic and international standards.

3) Someone who will show excellent professionalism dealing with players, less likely to show favoritism to a certain group of players (a la Siddons) or being overly hostile towards others (a la Hathuru).

4) And, yes, a taskmaster who will make each and every player work hard and will know how to utilize the coaching staff under him.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:27 PM
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Jose Mourinho's anger would sort these dropkicks out, I say we need to hire him.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:32 PM
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Stephen Flemming, Andy Flower, Heath Streak
I hope BCB doesn't try to poach Streak from Zimbabwe. He is on a mission there and doing very well.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:57 PM
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Something tells me local coach for Sri Lanka series. Papon's statements indicate they wont rush into appointing someone which is fair enough-but in this day and age, how difficult is it to get applicants and interview.

So who knows maybe Sarwar Imran or Salahuddin or Richard Halsall as interim coach?
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Old November 9, 2017, 11:28 PM
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How about John Bracewell? How good is he as a man-manager and a skill coach?
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Old November 10, 2017, 02:04 AM
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I guess Mr. Donal will be able to say.

Another good coach available is Phil Simmons who has had the experience of working with Zimbabwe and Ireland. The latter for a very long time. Also led WI to the T20 title, although fell apart with board after that.
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Old November 10, 2017, 02:29 AM
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I don’t think big name players should be head coach. We should get someone with a good coaching record too. No more trophy name coaches like Walsh
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Old November 10, 2017, 06:34 AM
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Preferably someone like Eddie Barlow. I think he was the best coach ever, even though he had not had enough time.
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Old November 10, 2017, 08:09 AM
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I don’t think big name players should be head coach. We should get someone with a good coaching record too. No more trophy name coaches like Walsh
Agree to that. And some of the best coaches may not even have a track record as a player. Mike Hesson is an excellent "recent" example
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Old November 10, 2017, 08:14 AM
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amar jodi shomoi thaktho...
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Old November 10, 2017, 08:15 AM
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someone who can issue a gag order.
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Old November 10, 2017, 09:20 AM
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myself. most of you know what i did with my super weak team in FTP
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Old November 10, 2017, 07:45 PM
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Looks like Khaled Mahmud will be the near term coach. Now happy?
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Old November 10, 2017, 07:51 PM
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Something tells me local coach for Sri Lanka series. Papon's statements indicate they wont rush into appointing someone which is fair enough-but in this day and age, how difficult is it to get applicants and interview.

So who knows maybe Sarwar Imran or Salahuddin or Richard Halsall as interim coach?
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Looks like Khaled Mahmud will be the near term coach. Now happy?
Fazal mamu might be right about Shujon kahu...
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Old November 10, 2017, 08:20 PM
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Oh no!

http://www.bdcrictime.com/2017/11/su...of-bangladesh/
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Old November 10, 2017, 10:17 PM
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^^ That was expected, ie Sujon as the interim coach. I have more hope in him to keep players in line than Walsh or Halsall.
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Old November 10, 2017, 10:33 PM
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Shujon dreams of being a Ravi Shastri lol
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Old November 10, 2017, 10:37 PM
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Kumar sangakara is my first choice. Some one has good education, royal cricketing record, thinking personality, new to the coach arena and lots of things to proven him self, Asian culture to handle Asian drama , he’s a solid batsman, one day , t20, test .. u name it.
Also I will add Jayavardhane for his partner... this two will make our team touchdown the World Cup 2019...
Also we need new players like saif , Saifuddin, shanto, Afif to step up now , right now...
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Old November 10, 2017, 11:54 PM
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Kumar sangakara is my first choice. Some one has good education, royal cricketing record, thinking personality, new to the coach arena and lots of things to proven him self, Asian culture to handle Asian drama , he’s a solid batsman, one day , t20, test .. u name it.
Also I will add Jayavardhane for his partner... this two will make our team touchdown the World Cup 2019...
Also we need new players like saif , Saifuddin, shanto, Afif to step up now , right now...
Trust me last thing you need is someone "New to the coaching arena". You need someone with sound coaching credentials and proven track record, personal cricket careers and prowess is irrelevant here.
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Old November 11, 2017, 06:19 AM
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Trouble is Sanga is not even new to the coaching arena. He hasnt even coached yet. We saw what happened with Walsh.
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Old November 11, 2017, 07:03 AM
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No Asian coaches then again please. Hire someone outside. Andyflower, try bringing back Streak or try Moody.
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Old November 11, 2017, 11:12 AM
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I think this should be general guideline for BCB, to find the new coach:

1) Someone willing to work with a pool of 30 players through out the year, not someone there only to prepare 15-20 players before each series.

2) Someone who won't rubbish domestic performers, but willing to work with them, to help them overcome the gap between domestic and international standards.

3) Someone who will show excellent professionalism dealing with players, less likely to show favoritism to a certain group of players (a la Siddons) or being overly hostile towards others (a la Hathuru).

4) And, yes, a taskmaster who will make each and every player work hard and will know how to utilize the coaching staff under him.
I don't agree with your point no 1. National team's head coach's job shouldn't be to coach fringe players. He should be able to solely focus on making his squad ready to win matches against international teams. That requires a lot of planning and preparation. And we don't play as little as before. National team is busy all through the year now. I don't even like that we announce 25-30 men primary squad before a series and then bring it down to 15 gradually. This just proves BCB's inability to look after fringe or recently dropped players. The only way to bring players back to form during off season is by making them work under the national team head coach? The academy and the development coaches are/should be there to do that. That's what I see happen in Australia. CA directly announce 14 men squad during a home series. And if the Sheffield Shield is on during a home series they even let the 12th man go and play a shield match to get match practice. The team just brings in a good local fielder as a substitute. Having said the above though I believe if a player from that 14-15 man squad looses his form it's the coaches job to work on him extensively (which Hathuru refused to do as per reports). But once a player is dropped from the national team he should be sent to the academy where he should have access to proper facilities and specialist coaches.
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Old November 11, 2017, 11:53 AM
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^^ You have valid points there. However, unlike Aus, we don't have a high quality domestic structure. So, we often hear the arguments - no point sending a struggling Soumya back to domestics, he won't be able to work on his shortcomings there; or no point considering Naeem for the Test team as the gap between our domestic FC and Test cricket is huge. It was not only Hatu, we had seen with Siddons as well the reluctance to let go off struggling players and to try someone else in his place.

IMO, one solution for the issue will be to give the coach access to fringe players as well to regular ones. I know 30 players is a lot to manage. That's why I added the last bit about being good at utilizing coaching staff, ie knowing well how to delegate.
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Old November 11, 2017, 12:19 PM
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BCB is in no hurry to look for a new coach. I guess they are still hoping Hatu will come to his senses and stick with us. Hatu may come to Dhaka on Nov 15 or later. If he leaves, BCB will look for someone who will understand subcontinental mentality well.

Mash thinks BCB should keep their minds open, as Aussies such as Whatmore and Siddons had done well with Bangladesh at past.

http://www.prothom-alo.com/sports/ar...A6%BF%E0%A6%B0

I guess Sujon will be in charge till March. Then we have a long break before the Windies tour in July.
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Old November 11, 2017, 03:30 PM
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As per Kaler Kantho, BCB high ups decided to contact Richard Pybus once Hatu let them know his decision. Though Pybus-BCB relationship ended very bitterly last time, they still like him because he was a hard disciplinarian.

BCB sounds like a girl still in love with her abusive ex
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