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Old January 19, 2018, 08:05 AM
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Default The finisher(s) down the order?

Yes guys we won again by a mammoth margin. We scored 320 which is pretty big but surely we could have scored a lot lot more surely?

After 40 overs we were 243/3 and sitting pretty to score nearly 340. But we only managed 77, 19 of which came in the final over. Now against teams like Lanka these problems will go under the carpet but teams like Australia India England would punish us for the same mistakes. Hell, against England in the CT we were poor in the latter overs again.

The question is, why doesn't management focus on it? We are seeing changes up the order but nothing down the order. Its good for a change to have sabbir back at 6 where he belongs but what about our no. 7? We need a good no. 7 who can muscle the ball like Sabbir himself
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Old January 19, 2018, 08:07 AM
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Old January 19, 2018, 08:24 AM
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I dont think the BD team encourage or have the sense of when to use a good platform and start trying to put a really high score with so many wickets in hand. It seems players are more looking for personal milestone and using the old method of get your self in slowly and then start going for a finish.
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Old January 19, 2018, 08:40 AM
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I dont think the BD team encourage or have the sense of when to use a good platform and start trying to put a really high score with so many wickets in hand. It seems players are more looking for personal milestone and using the old method of get your self in slowly and then start going for a finish.
I don't think its a case for personal milestone but I do agree about getting an eye in. I have seen Riad guilty in this case. Mushy too needs to be able to muscle a few.
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Old January 19, 2018, 08:45 AM
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Can Saifuddin bludgeon a few? Maybe he should have come before Nasir.
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Old January 19, 2018, 09:20 AM
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"May Be"? When team is in driving seat and we re in the last 10 overs, Saif should always bat ahead of Nasir. Now a days Nasir is unreliable and useless as a batsman, specially during slogging overs.

Actually I would say Saif, in this game, Saif should come ahead of Riyad and Nasir.
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Old January 19, 2018, 10:07 AM
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^Saif is not as good as Riyad lets be honest.TBH we haven't seen enough of Saif even in BPL, infact he came after Hassan Ali.

Saifuddin isn't the option. Saif is a good option for no. 8. The question is, who will be there at no. 7 who can muscle a few? Like Thisara or Morris?
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Old January 19, 2018, 10:20 AM
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^Saif can hit a few. Has good the big hits in him. Forgetting SA tour?
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Old January 19, 2018, 10:21 AM
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^Saif is not as good as Riyad lets be honest.TBH we haven't seen enough of Saif even in BPL, infact he came after Hassan Ali.

Saifuddin isn't the option. Saif is a good option for no. 8. The question is, who will be there at no. 7 who can muscle a few? Like Thisara or Morris?
That's why I said "Today's game" when we were in top scoring 200 runs around 37th over.

We may NOT know enough of Saif, but we should already know what Riyad and Nasir can and cannot do with the bat. Riayd in his good days will score runs but will score with SR around plus/minus 100. But potentially someone like Saif can produce much higher SR.

btw Hassan Ali is a good slogger and T20 is different beast in itself where batting order is often changed and sometimes slogger even open the innings.
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Old January 19, 2018, 11:51 AM
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We should try Ariful at 7.
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Old January 19, 2018, 12:15 PM
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Just curious MHRAM lol... what sourpuss thread would you open when actually win the world cup to s on us?
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First we need to understand how our batting lineup is structured ie how it functions.

Our lineup at present can only score 320 runs. Maybe 330 at most (got 329 vs PAK in 2015). But we have scores of 320, 324, 326, and 329 in the past 4 years which indicates that 325 is about the most runs we can score with the personnel that we have.

All the major sides, barring maybe SL, PAK, WI can threaten 350 or even 400 on any given day.

We can't.

We need to therefore place an emphasis on bowling and fielding. Our lineup:

Anchors: Tamim and Anamul
Accelerators: Shakib
Balanced (ie both): Mushfiq, Mahmudullah
Finishers: Sabbir
Bowlers: Saifuddin, Miraz (? still too early)
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Old January 19, 2018, 01:11 PM
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Old January 19, 2018, 01:47 PM
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Just curious MHRAM lol... what sourpuss thread would you open when actually win the world cup to s on us?
Actually winning a world cup will be a big achievement. Win an ICC event then a lot of sins will be forgiven, no one will complain, everyone will rejoice.

Right now we struggle to compete overseas, and in ICC events we are yet to win a knockout match.
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Old January 19, 2018, 01:52 PM
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http://bn.bdcrictime.com/2018/01/%E0...A6%AB%E0%A6%B8

even Mash believes we need a good finisher at 7. And that sabbir is a good no. 6.

Definitely it was Haturu's idea to have him at 3 which backfired and ruined Sabbir's confidence
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Old January 19, 2018, 02:59 PM
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Actually winning a world cup will be a big achievement. Win an ICC event then a lot of sins will be forgiven, no one will complain, everyone will rejoice.

Right now we struggle to compete overseas, and in ICC events we are yet to win a knockout match.
Absolutely.
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Old January 19, 2018, 03:06 PM
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Get rid of Mullah. He's not suited for his role. If you look at the only 3 good knocks he's had (2 WC15 and CT semi), it was because the top order collapsed and he had ample time to get settled. Even then, his 100s in WC were painfully slow, and in CT it was Shakib who was the aggressor. Mullah never comes through in situations like this game.
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Old January 19, 2018, 04:20 PM
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Totally pointless to have Nasir in the team, Miraz is better than him both as a bowler and a batsman.

From the current squad, they should give Mithun next couple of matches at #7. Mash is fine at #8.

Not impressed with Saifuddin, I like to see Miraz in his place.
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Old January 19, 2018, 06:54 PM
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Bhai I will be the most pious believer if BCB would just get rid of this Mullah of ours.
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Old January 19, 2018, 08:28 PM
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We're indeed lacking one hard-hitting bowling AR, esp a FB AR. Mash also pointed it out after the game. At least Sabbir is back to being a finisher (lol at those who used to defend him while at #3 btw hehe). Need another one. Saifuddin isn't it.

Will become a bigger need when Mash retires.

Nasir is fine. I think he, Mosaddek & Riyad should compete for 2 spots. Nasir is a good chaser, just not a big hitter. And a good fielder & decent bowler in ODI. Saifuddin/Sunzunamul/Miraz's spot is the problem.
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Nasir is fine. I think he, Mosaddek & Riyad should compete for 2 spots. Nasir is a good chaser, just not a big hitter. And a good fielder & decent bowler in ODI. Saifuddin/Sunzunamul/Miraz's spot is the problem.
If Nasir was doing his job at the #7, it would be of little consequence who we have at #9 of the batting order.
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