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Old July 29, 2018, 02:25 AM
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Cool Imrul should partner TIK in 2019 WC

First let me say it out loud: I am biased and my bias is for Imrul Kayes

But I think he has been the best opening partner for TIK.

Let the stats speak: During 2015-2018 period, Imrul TIK partnership produced highest opening partnership average, even better than TIK Soumya.

During 2012-2014 period, Imrul played 2 or 1 match as opener.

Since we have not found any dependable opening partner for TIK, Imrul should be TIK's opening partner in 2019 WC. Plus Imrul has a good track record in England.


Overall figures (2015 - 2018) (Cut off: 9 or more innings)
Partners Span Inns NO Runs High Ave Overs RR 100 50
Imrul Kayes, Tamim Iqbal 2015-2017 12 0 580 147 48.33 128.5 4.5 2 1
Soumya Sarkar, Tamim Iqbal 2015-2017 23 0 903 154 39.26 168.1 5.36 3 3
Anamul Haque, Tamim Iqbal 2015-2018 9 0 227 71 25.22 51.4 4.39 0 1
Overall figures (2012- 2014) (Cutoff: three or more innings)
Partners Span Inns NO Runs High Ave Overs RR 100 50
Anamul Haque, Tamim Iqbal 2012-2014 17 0 604 158 35.52 138.4 4.35 2 2
Nazimuddin, Tamim Iqbal 2012-2012 4 0 136 68 34 33.5 4.01 0 1
Mohammad Ashraful, Tamim Iqbal 2013-2013 3 0 90 65 30 19.4 4.57 0 1
Anamul Haque, Shamsur Rahman 2014-2014 6 0 110 74 18.33 31.2 3.51 0 1
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Old July 29, 2018, 02:32 AM
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Tamims best opening partner would be liton if he can be a bit more consistent. Liton is aggressive which would work well. Plus he is not the slashy type which most of our openers are.
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Old July 29, 2018, 02:32 AM
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Hell no. Put up his WC scores.
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Old July 29, 2018, 02:46 AM
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Hell no. Put up his WC scores.
2011 WC scores

34
v India
12 v Ireland
5 v West Indies
60 v England
73* v Netherlands
4 v South Africa

Performance in ENG

Match by match list (ODI performance in England)
Bat1 Opposition Ground Start Date
14 v England Nottingham 40367 ODI # 3018
76 v England Bristol 40369 ODI # 3025
4 v England Birmingham 40371 ODI # 3026
19 v England The Oval 42887 ODI # 3875
6 v Australia The Oval 42891 ODI # 3879

Match by match list (Test performance in England)
Bat1 Bat2 Runs Opposition Ground Start Date
43 75 118 v England Lord's 40325 Test # 1958
36 9 45 v England Manchester 40333 Test # 1959
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Old July 29, 2018, 03:34 AM
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Keep persisting with Anamul. He will come good. Who needs feet movement when you have hand-eye coordination like that? Stand and deliver like Jayasuriya.
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Old July 29, 2018, 03:38 AM
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Good God. Kaedge and hits 60 strike rate can stick to domestic bullying. Liton needs to be the guy, period.
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Old July 29, 2018, 04:31 AM
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Both liton and anamul can play the jayasuriya role

Averaging 30 with strike rate over 100 should not be difficult with the way both hit

That's good enough if Tamim can keep going at average of 60 with SR of 80
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Old July 29, 2018, 04:52 AM
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Both liton and anamul can play the jayasuriya role

Averaging 30 with strike rate over 100 should not be difficult with the way both hit

That's good enough if Tamim can keep going at average of 60 with SR of 80
The problem is:

Anamul and Liton will play a quick cameo of 30+ innings one every four times. Remaining three times, they will be out for single digits.

As for Imrul, he will get out for single digit in one innings, two innings in 10s/20s, and one innings in 30s/40s. All with strike rate of max 70.

We have to decide what mediocre option we select.
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Old July 29, 2018, 04:57 AM
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The problem is:

Anamul and Liton will play a quick cameo of 30+ innings one every four times. Remaining three times, they will be out for single digits.

As for Imrul, he will get out for single digit in one innings, two innings in 10s/20s, and one innings in 30s/40s. All with strike rate of max 70.

We have to decide what mediocre option we select.
To be fair, Anamul is capable of scoring big. He just needs one big knock to get his confidence back. We can also try Mominul as an opener.
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Old July 29, 2018, 06:21 AM
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To be fair, Anamul is capable of scoring big. He just needs one big knock to get his confidence back. We can also try Mominul as an opener.
The confidence will do nothing if his overall batting technique is terrible, he will fail more often than not. And its not like he debuted yesterday, there is a reason Hathurusingha never thought highly of him and instead gave chances to Soumya who had much more average domestic performance.

Some are getting disillusioned by his domestic or U19 numbers which are not always a good criteria to judge players, many domestic and U19 bullies around the world never made it in International Cricket and our domestic cricket is hardly the most competitive. Litton has also great domestic numbers and hasn't received half the chances Anamul has gotten so far.

Only watching Anamul play will tell you how terrible he is, we are wasting time and a spot which could have been given to another promising young player
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Old July 29, 2018, 08:05 AM
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No thanks. He will keep edging and dropping catches.
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Old July 29, 2018, 08:11 AM
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not a fan of anamul's batting at all but i would take an abysmal anamul or a limping liton in my team over kaedge baba any day of the year
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Old July 29, 2018, 08:15 AM
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Pabna called. They want you back!
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Old July 29, 2018, 08:17 AM
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Old July 29, 2018, 08:48 AM
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like it or not Imrul is the 2nd best opener we produced
But before we need to try out Liton,Shanto
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Old July 29, 2018, 12:11 PM
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Tamim's opening partner should be Shanto. Liton failed, Anamul failed, Kayes failed and Mithun was given one game and that's it. Shanto had a good domestic season and needs to be given the opportunity to build up on it.
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Old July 29, 2018, 12:11 PM
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Imrul sabotaged his chance to play in WC'19 by refusing to play A-team matches in Ireland-

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http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edi...8/07/26/662154
In all likelihood, it will be Soumya again to partner Tamim. After MA Motin, he has been the biggest "jodi laigga jai" factor in Bangladesh cricket.
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Old July 29, 2018, 12:20 PM
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I think it's high time we stop looking at the opening position as some kind of special position where you cannot put certain players and play some youngsters like Mosaddek and Shanto. At least in ODIs.


Dilshan was once a middle order player who didn't shine much but once he moved to opening slot he was a different player, the management need to stop looking for certain players to open only and push mosaddek or Shanto up the order to give them enough balls to play, the opening position grants them more freedom to express their talent than coming in at number 6 or 7 trying to score quick runs
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Old July 29, 2018, 01:07 PM
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I think whatever decision we make we have to stick with it till the next World Cup. Don’t think Imrul has that edge like he used to.

Liton could open and he could possibly add 30-40 runs but you can’t expect him to play long innings. IMO put Shabbir to start if you don’t want to go with Liton.
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Old July 29, 2018, 01:16 PM
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The problem is:

Anamul and Liton will play a quick cameo of 30+ innings one every four times. Remaining three times, they will be out for single digits.

As for Imrul, he will get out for single digit in one innings, two innings in 10s/20s, and one innings in 30s/40s. All with strike rate of max 70.

We have to decide what mediocre option we select.
If das and anamul or Sarkar back themselves they can get that cameo consistently

I'd give them 3 runs and give them full backing and give one instructions and that's go big

Or send Shakib to open, he's basically doing it anyway
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Old July 29, 2018, 02:52 PM
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Or send Shakib to open, he's basically doing it anyway
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IMO put Shabbir to start if you don’t want to go with Liton.
This is one of the worst things that has happened in our cricket - promoting a player who has played well for a while to a position that he is not suited for.

We tried Ashraful as opener and no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Imrul and Zunaid and other openers as no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Shabbir and Nasir at no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Shakib at no 3. Even though he has done well so far, he has done well only against relatively weaker opponents and on pitches that are similar to subcontinent pitches.

As Isam said in the front page interview with Rinathq, no 3 should never be another opener. Similarly, no 3 should also not be any other player except a real no 3.

For a successful ODI team, each and every players role must be well defined. No player should play at a position as a stop gap measure.

Look at Team India at the moment. Strong team but lost ODI series to England. Why? Because they have no 1, 2, 3 very well defined but they are experimenting with 4-7 positions and the result was loss against a quality opposition. Whereas look at England - roles are well defined and players come and execute their role. When roles are well defined, each one can play fearlessly according to his talent, and even if two or three players fail in the process in a match, the team as a whole can withstand that and can still win.

For our ODI team, some roles are set for WC. Some are not.

1. Tamim
2.
3.
4. Mushfiqur
5. Shakib
6.
7. Mahmudullah
8.
9. Mashrafe
10. Rubel
11. Mustafizur

Our problem is 2, 3, 6, 8 are not well defined and so far seniors have covered up. But if we want to do well in WC, we must fix those positions and make players ready.
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The best opening partner would be Sir Don Ash... Aishob Bijoy tijoy liton futon aishob Diya hoito na. Sir re ano.. sir dui din Bhalo khelbe.. oi dui Diney Amra moral champions
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I think it's high time we stop looking at the opening position as some kind of special position where you cannot put certain players and play some youngsters like Mosaddek and Shanto. At least in ODIs.


Dilshan was once a middle order player who didn't shine much but once he moved to opening slot he was a different player, the management need to stop looking for certain players to open only and push mosaddek or Shanto up the order to give them enough balls to play, the opening position grants them more freedom to express their talent than coming in at number 6 or 7 trying to score quick runs
I like the idea. However, instead of taking a chance with a rookie (especially if that rookie is Mosaddek, with a poor reputation against pacers), I think the management should try out one of the experienced batsman like Mushfiq, Mahmudullah, or even Momin.
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This is one of the worst things that has happened in our cricket - promoting a player who has played well for a while to a position that he is not suited for.

We tried Ashraful as opener and no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Imrul and Zunaid and other openers as no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Shabbir and Nasir at no 3. The result was a failure.

We tried Shakib at no 3. Even though he has done well so far, he has done well only against relatively weaker opponents and on pitches that are similar to subcontinent pitches.

As Isam said in the front page interview with Rinathq, no 3 should never be another opener. Similarly, no 3 should also not be any other player except a real no 3.

For a successful ODI team, each and every players role must be well defined. No player should play at a position as a stop gap measure.

Look at Team India at the moment. Strong team but lost ODI series to England. Why? Because they have no 1, 2, 3 very well defined but they are experimenting with 4-7 positions and the result was loss against a quality opposition. Whereas look at England - roles are well defined and players come and execute their role. When roles are well defined, each one can play fearlessly according to his talent, and even if two or three players fail in the process in a match, the team as a whole can withstand that and can still win.

For our ODI team, some roles are set for WC. Some are not.

1. Tamim
2.
3.
4. Mushfiqur
5. Shakib
6.
7. Mahmudullah
8.
9. Mashrafe
10. Rubel
11. Mustafizur

Our problem is 2, 3, 6, 8 are not well defined and so far seniors have covered up. But if we want to do well in WC, we must fix those positions and make players ready.
The type of batsman Shabbir I think he could open on ODIs or T20s and that’s only if Liton is not performing. Otherwise I don’t think Shabbir has a proper place in the team.

Although I agree with you on pointing out Shabbi’ failute at 3 as he is not disciplined enough.
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Old July 29, 2018, 03:34 PM
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Keep persisting with Anamul. He will come good. Who needs feet movement when you have hand-eye coordination like that? Stand and deliver like Jayasuriya.
Lol did you just compare this hack to Jayasuriya
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