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Old August 9, 2018, 10:28 AM
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Default Papon wants Shakib to do the operation on his finger AFTER Asia cup

এশিয়া কাপের পর সাকিবের অস্ত্রোপচারের পক্ষে বোর্ড সভাপতি


সকালে দেশে ফিরে সাকিব আল হাসান বলেছিলেন এশিয়া কাপের আগেই হতে পারে তার হাতের অস্ত্রোপচার। বিকেলে বোর্ড সভাপতি নাজমুল হাসান পাপন দিয়েছেন ভিন্ন মত। তার চাওয়া ‘কঠিন হতে যাওয়া’ এশিয়া কাপে থাকুন সাকিব। বরং জিম্বাবুয়ের বিপক্ষে সিরিজের সময়টাতে করানো হোক অস্ত্রোপচার।
গেল জানুয়ারিতে বাঁহাতের কনিষ্ঠা আঙুলে পাওয়া চোটে ইনজেকশন নিয়ে খেলছিলেন সাকিব। কিন্তু তাতে ব্যাট করতে তার অস্বস্তি হচ্ছিল, দিতে পারছিলেন না সামর্থ্যের পুরোটা। ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজ সফর শেষে দেশে ফিরে সাকিব স্থায়ী সমাধান পেতে দ্রুত অস্ত্রোপচারের মত দিয়েছিলেন। আর সেটা এশিয়া কাপের আগেই।
দুপুরে কোচ স্টিভ রোডসের সঙ্গে বৈঠক করেন নাজমুল। পরে সাংবাদিকদের মুখোমুখি হতে আসে সাকিবের ইনজুরির প্রসঙ্গ, ‘সাকিব আমাকে ফোন করেছিল। বলেছিল যে হাতে অপারেশন করাতে হবে। হেড কোচও ওখান থেকে ফোন করেছিল। কারণ যে স্ট্রেংথ ওর দরকার, সেটা পাচ্ছে না ব্যাটিংয়ে। ইনজেকশন নিয়ে নয়ে খেলছে। কিন্তু অপারেশন হলে অন্তত ছয় সপ্তাহের বিরতি দরকার। এত লম্বা বিরতি পাওয়াটা কঠিন। প্রথম চেষ্টা করা হচ্ছে যদি কোনো খেলার মাঝখানে ওকে বিরতিটা দেওয়া যায়। আর তা না হল একটা খেলাই বাদ দিতে হবে। যেটা ওকে ছাড়া খেলা আমরা চিন্তাই করতে পারছি না।’
সামনে বাংলাদেশের ব্যস্ত ক্রিকেট সূচি। অস্ত্রোপচার করালে কোন একটা সিরিজ সাকিবকে ছাড়া নামতেই হবে। এশিয়া কাপের চেয়ে জিম্বাবুয়ে সিরিজ কম গুরুত্বপূর্ণ হওয়ায় বোর্ড সভাপতি চান এশিয়া কাপ খেলেই অপারেশন টেবিলে যাক সাকিব, ‘এশিয়া কাপের আগেও হতে পারে, পরেও হতে পারে। জিম্বাবুয়ে সিরিজের সময় হতে পারে। আজকে কোচের সঙ্গে যে কথা হয়েছে, ও বলেছে এশিয়া কাপের কথাই। আমি বলেছি, এশিয়া কাপের চেয়ে ভালো হয় আমরা জিম্বাবুয়ে সিরিজের সময় করি। নতুন কিছু ক্রিকেটারও দেখতে পরব আমরা। ওটাতে আমার মনে হয় ভালো হবে। এশিয়া কাপ এমনিতেই এবার কঠিন হবে। তার ওপর সাকিবের মতো একজন ক্রিকেটার না খেললে দলের মোরাল আরও উইক হয়ে যেতে পারে। তার পরও আরও কথা হবে। আজ-কালকের মধ্যে সাকিবের সঙ্গে কথা বলব। আমার মনে হয়, অন্য সময় করাটাই ভালো হবে।’
জানুয়ারিতে ত্রিদেশীয় কাপের ফাইনালে ফিল্ডিং করতে গিয়ে বা হাতের কনিষ্ঠা আঙুলে চোট পান সাকিব। লঙ্কানদের বিপক্ষে টেস্ট ও টি-টোয়েন্টি সিরিজ বাইরে থাকতে হয় তাকে। শুরুতে ছিলেন না নিদহাস কাপেও। অস্ট্রেলিয়া গিয়ে ইনজেকশন নিয়ে যোগ দেন দলে। ওই চোটে তার আঙুলের জোড়া নড়ে গেছে। দুই হাড়ে ঘষা লাগায় পুরো বাঁকাতে পারছেন না কনিষ্ঠা আঙুল। এতে বল করতে সমস্যা না হলেও ব্যাটিংয়ে অস্বস্তি হচ্ছিল বলে জানান সাকিব।

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Old August 9, 2018, 11:23 AM
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This decision is definitely not the Board President's to make. There are physicians and other professionals who can give better insight regarding the matter. Besides, why would Shakib play if he cannot give his hundred percent?
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Old August 9, 2018, 12:34 PM
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Shakib knows his situation better than anybody. If he wants to get the operation done now, so be it
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Old August 9, 2018, 12:39 PM
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Considering all that, It's amazing how he has been playing IPL, Nidahas Trophy(Almost won that), West Indies series. Simply Amazing! not only playing, but playing at a very high level...
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Old August 9, 2018, 02:40 PM
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Considering all that, It's amazing how he has been playing IPL, Nidahas Trophy(Almost won that), West Indies series. Simply Amazing! not only playing, but playing at a very high level...
It's the pinky. He can grip the ball and bowl but has pain. Batting becomes a problem. He took pain killer shots before the last two games.

Asia Cup has a significant challenge without him. 80-90% Shakib is better than 200% (100% batting and 100% bowling by two) of the replacement. We lose one game and may not make it to the second stage. A lot is riding on this cup as well. Whereas, Zim series, we can afford to sit him.

I don't think Papon is out of line since the rehab may take 3 weeks or more.
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Old August 9, 2018, 03:16 PM
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It's the pinky. He can grip the ball and bowl but has pain. Batting becomes a problem. He took pain killer shots before the last two games.

Asia Cup has a significant challenge without him. 80-90% Shakib is better than 200% (100% batting and 100% bowling by two) of the replacement. We lose one game and may not make it to the second stage. A lot is riding on this cup as well. Whereas, Zim series, we can afford to sit him.

I don't think Papon is out of line since the rehab may take 3 weeks or more.
This is a decision that should only be made by a physician and Shakib.

Shakib's LOI bowling is good, but we have an endless supply of SLAs who can bowl 10-1-45-2 type spells. Sanjamul, Ranjamul, Fanjamul can all do that.

We will miss his batting, but on a flat track hopefully Tamim, Mushy, Riyad can see us through. We beat NZ without Tamim and Mash in 2010 and WI without Shakib in 2012. Team is even stronger now. We can win in ODIs without one or even 2 of our lead players.

We dont' need him for the series against ZIM or WI. But we need a fit Shakib for the WC.
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This is between Shakib and his physician as al Furqaan said. Does not matter what Papon wants.
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Am I reading this right? he picked up the injury back in January? Why didnt they have surgery right after? Now we are going into Asia cup with a less than 100% shakib needlessly.
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Is papon a puppet master (not puppy as brought up in a another thread)?
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So we will have 3 batsman out of 11 now.
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There was an interview few days back where the Bangladesh team doctor said it is not an urgent operation and can be done when he wants , it's shakib's decision to do the operation before Asia cup.

I wonder if the decision has something to do with the criticism he received from all fans regarding his behavior
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Shakib just wants more holidays to skip training and Papon is just catching him out

Jokes apart, I think this should be left to the doctors.
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It's the pinky. He can grip the ball and bowl but has pain. Batting becomes a problem. He took pain killer shots before the last two games.

Asia Cup has a significant challenge without him. 80-90% Shakib is better than 200% (100% batting and 100% bowling by two) of the replacement. We lose one game and may not make it to the second stage. A lot is riding on this cup as well. Whereas, Zim series, we can afford to sit him.

I don't think Papon is out of line since the rehab may take 3 weeks or more.
Sunzamul Islam is Shakib's replacement if he gets injured. He is also a left arm spin all-rounder. Fazle Mahmud can also put a case for himself to be included as he himself is an allrounder who bowls legbreak and since we are looking for a wrist spinner. Although the last game for Bangladesh A against Ireland will tell a bit more about him. As for batting, we might want to push up Mossadek to No.3 and allow him to showcase his batting a bit more.
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This is a decision that should only be made by a physician and Shakib. ...
If I am paying the bill I get to choose when, where, how, as long as the un-comfort DOES NOT lead to other issues. If it was as big of issue then why did he play WI series? Better yet, why did the Physician let him play that series?
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If I am paying the bill I get to choose when, where, how, as long as the un-comfort DOES NOT lead to other issues. If it was as big of issue then why did he play WI series? Better yet, why did the Physician let him play that series?
He played because he thought he could manage it but he felt uncomfortable while batting. Of course, he didn't want to withdraw himself mid-series that too as a captain.
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According to news reports he had the injury at the beginning of the year I think so he has had the better part of the year to think of this operation, not the ideal time to go AWOL when Asia Cup is our biggest series of the year
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According to news reports he had the injury at the beginning of the year I think so he has had the better part of the year to think of this operation, not the ideal time to go AWOL when Asia Cup is our biggest series of the year
Honestly I don’t mind, if he really needs it, get it done. better to do it now and have plenty of time to rehab and get back in form for the WC.

On the other side of things, he did this with the South Africa tour as well, totally different circumstances, but he skipped out on a major tour, and he’d be skipping a major tournament here.


From my perspective though, if it needs doing the sooner it’s don the better because of the upcoming WC. It gives BD a chance to give experience to its back ups or to try out some new players to see if they fit into the WC plan.
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Did he do the surgery?
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Did he do the surgery?
He went to perform Hajj last I heard, we may hear news of surgery in next couple of weeks or he will be in Asia Cup
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Papon talked to Shakib in Madina. Shakib agreed that he'll delay and postpone the surgery after the Asia cup. He left for USA for a week. Will join the team in UAE (May be Sept 6).
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We will have a full strength team then.

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If I am paying the bill I get to choose when, where, how, as long as the un-comfort DOES NOT lead to other issues. If it was as big of issue then why did he play WI series? Better yet, why did the Physician let him play that series?
Shots fired. :p
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It's NOT physician's decision.
It's NOT board's decision.
It's NOT members' decision.

It's Shakib's.

Are we sh*****ing ourselves?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's the hell's WRONG with you people?

Go and tell some feminist "Gee Ima guy who has NO authority whatsoever over you body and the abuse you suffered lemme make that DECISION for you if you should abort your baby" and see how they react.

The case or severity of his injury - be it niggle- is a MOOT issue. It has nothing to do with it.

Period.

Just because some of you are spiritually, physically, intellectually, professionally, financially miles and head above them doesn't give you ex cathedra right to make decision for others.

Eta to dekhi pura dome slavery dekhi.

You don't control them.

It's odious.
It's offensive.
It's obnoxious.


And this is not an ATTACK on a single member, but an ATTACK on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

Come' at me bro. I will take on ALL of you.

I am tempting you.

Agent provocateur.
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