One day debut for Mehrab Jr. against WI?

[Tokyobreeze]

Just saw the NTV news where they said that BD team management is thinking seriously about giving chance to Mehrab Jr. in the second CT match against WI.They didn't detail anything like who might sit.If Mehrab Jr. really gets a chance who will be out of team?Options are:

Ash-Fool: Considering his current performance and contribution for the team, he should be the first man to be considered to get out of the team.But, no matter how much I would like him to sit outside the ground and learning from others how to value his wicket, probably he will make it for the 2nd match of CT.As we have seen Bashar commenting after the first match that he is sure that Ash-Fool will do better in the 2nd or 3rd match, we can hardly expect that Ash-Fool will replaced with Mehrab Jr.

Razzaque:Most likely.Though his bowling is great these days and batting is improving, team management might think that Mehrab Jr. being a SLA and better batsman than Razzaque might be more valuable.

Rasel: Likely.Team might consider playing only with one main pacer and use Farhad as opening bowler.As people say thhat WI is weak in playing spin.

Farhad: Somewhat likely.Farhad have done quite well with his bat.But, his bowling performance is below expectation.As it is said that WI is weak in spin bowling, team management might think that the pace of Farhad won't be neccessary and Mehrab Jr. should perform as a better batsman.Of course, we will be playing with 2 specialist pacer in that case, Mashrafi and Rasel or Shahadat.

Rafiq: Unlikely but probable.

I guess Sakib will be there for his performance in the 1st match.Bashar and Pilot will be there because we don't have option for sitting them. though I would have liked to sit both.Though very very unlikely, but u never know the creativity of our team management!They might even go for sitting SN for giving the opening slot to Mehrab?!

Do u guys think Mehrab will make it for the 2nd game?If so then who will go out?Also, it will be nice to discuss on his batting position and expectations from him.

[Hatebreed]

Rafiq's name shouldn't even in the same line as "replacement", well not yet. I think Razzak deserves his place in the team, we don't know yet how good Mehrab can be against a quality opponent. So if Mehrab is going to play it has to be in place for Ash or perhaps Rasel if pace is not a huge factor against WI.

Anyway, I think Ashdafool will make it for the 2nd match because team management will be hoping for an eid performance.

[Miraz]

Mehrab will not make his debut against WI. He will probably play against Zimbo's if we lose against WI.

In present context, only SN and Ash can be considered as probable replacement depending on their performance against WI.

[BangladeshFan]

how good is mehrab? if he is in the same class as sakib, it would be a mistake to use 2 rookies at the same time. cant be substituted for a bowler either, rajjak bowled well in the sl match.

i think bd should ideally go with same team, only replacement i can think of is shahadat in place of russel.

[cricket_pagol]

mehrab should not be thrown in the middle in a game against the windies. The poor guy did not even get a chance to bat or bowl in the practice match. Dropping one of four main bowlers to make space for him will be suicidal for us.

[al Furqaan]

ash would have to go...rasel should get another chance...and if he is replaced it would have to be with shahadat.

as for the notion of forhad opening the bowling...he opened and got hammered against zim/kenya. if they want him to open against the likes of gayle and co. why not just open the bowling with ash-fool? that way you dont even have to debut mehrab. and u can get ash an important double...the first bangladeshi player if not the first player in cricket history to both open the batting and the bowling

[exotic]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
.....and u can get ash an important double...the first bangladeshi player if not the first player in cricket history to both open the batting and the bowling

Don't insult ashraful comparing with Monoj Provakar.:p

[DotBall]

It would be a suicide to debut Mehrab Jr. against WI. We need to win this game. As much I would like to see Ash depart immediatelly, I think Ash needs to be retained in the openning position due to lack of options. He should be given clearence to play Happy-go-lucky style and hopefully all other batsmen can do the job for the team.
So, same lineup for WI game.

[AsifTheManRahman]

yay! so finally ash is being dropped!

i have no problems with playing mehrab in the next game. sakib and farhad seem to be doing ok (at least no worse than the seniors), so introducing a third newbie to the team shouldn't be a problem. we do have to win this game, but if ash plays his natural game, he wont be contributing much to the cause anyways.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
yay! so finally ash is being dropped!

i have no problems with playing mehrab in the next game. sakib and farhad seem to be doing ok (at least no worse than the seniors), so introducing a third newbie to the team shouldn't be a problem. we do have to win this game, but if ash plays his natural game, he wont be contributing much to the cause anyways.

in limited action...saqib and forhad have done WAAAAAAY better than the seniors...not a single duck, IIRC

[Baundule]

DOnt want another change! That will be another hopeless stuff. Dumb management can do anything anyway!

[kalpurush]

We should play same squad against WI. Though, I like to see Rafiq to open with Nafees and Ashraful in 4th position.

[MarufH]

he wont make it, however, if we lose second one too, he will definately get a chance with zim.

[shaoun]

i think we should keep the same team. because those who played badly in the first match like ash shariar nafees bashar will not be replaced. bashar is the captain so he wont sitout against west indies. shariar nafees has been in good form so he wont sit out. and ashraful, well it seems like he has a life time membership pass. farhad reza has been impressive with his batting but i dont know about his bowling. it looks like it got hammered in the first match. i dont see who mehrab can replace. in my opinion the team should be the same. and if we lose then we should give the 3 chance who didnt play.

[Tokyobreeze]

As like many of you have said, according to current form Ash-fool is the one who should be dropped.For others it's not good to replace due to their role or performance.But, the comments we are seeing in Media reflects that Ash-Fool is not gonna dropped.He will stay in the team as long as he likes.

I was also surprised to listen to the news that team management is thinking seriously to give chance to Mehrab on 2nd ODI.It might not happen finally.But, if it really happens then the replacement will become a big issue and a tough decision to make.Lets see either this thing is clarified more in other news or not.

[sadi]

I would keep the same team for the second odi. Don't think ash will be dropped and don't want to drop anyone else for Mehrab. Maybe shahadat for rasel but thats it.

[kaisermatin]

give him the chance. ash should now go back to the drawing boards and renew himself before smashing our cricket dreams.

[Rabz]

IF and ONLY IF the management decides to make changes in the next game for Mehrab Jnr, i reckon the chop would have to be on Farhad Reza, even though he had a decent match the other day.

Why?
Simply cuz WI is not good in SLA, as we all know this. and his lollipop medium pace would be too simple for the WI batsmen esp the lefties Gayle, LARA.
His batting was quite good but considering Mehrab also bats fairly decent, thats the only option i see that can be changed.

The name of Rafiq and Razzak should not even be thought, let alone mentioned.

But the the question arises, are we gonna play with 4 SLA and 2 Pacers?
we would have:
Mash
Rasel ( can be replaced by Shahadat, no problem with that)
Rafiq
Razzak
Mehrab
Sakib

Tough decision. May the inexperience of Mehrab and Sakib may be a crucial factor to decide upon.

May be Aftab can play the third slow-medium pacer role?

Lets see how the team managment decide to go, though IMO, its highly unlikely they would make a change.

[thebest]

why we are trying to fix something which is not broken? I am not an Ash fan. But give him some chance. As it seems that he has no ghilo, instruct him in clear word what we expect from him. Not block, block, block, boom rather like a role of a Gilly and his place is secure for the time being.
No change please. Why to jeopardise the career of Mehrab? Give him chance in forthcoming Zimbo, Scotland matches.

[Murad]

i dont think its a good idea to bring mehrab in the second match.. he'll be usefulll against Zimbabwe... but not against.. WI..

Ash willl be there no matter what.. and i'm pretty sure..he will do something in the next match..inshallah

[cricketboy]

I heard MEhrab is a slow batsman. I think if we want to WIN we must play attacking opener Ash atleast it will give us a chance if it is Ash's 1 out of 1000 lucky match.

[nmhimal]

Originally Posted by BangladeshFan
how good is mehrab? if he is in the same class as sakib, it would be a mistake to use 2 rookies at the same time. cant be substituted for a bowler either, rajjak bowled well in the sl match.

i think bd should ideally go with same team, only replacement i can think of is shahadat in place of russel.

you are right, we have to repalce rasel with shahadat. thats the only change we need to beat WI

[nmhimal]

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[Dhakablues]

Isnt this suppose to be an easy math? If Mehrab is coming to the fold, he is replacing an opener,, and there is no doubt that Nafees is not leaving.
Whether that becomes the reality remains to be seen in couple of days but I agree with most of you guys,,, this team didnt fail miserably other than Ashraful continuing his typical form of 'once in a blue moon strike'.

[Rabz]

Even if Mehrab plays, as suggested by that report, im not quite sure giving the new ball to Farhad Reza. His bowling looked quite ordinary to me and considering the recent form of Gayle, it would be good enough to kill the youngster's uprising career in one go.

[Zobair]

The impression I get from the media reports is that if Mehrab comes in it will be at the expense of Rasel i.e. he will bolster the middle order and provide another spin option. Its obvious that the Bangladeshi strategy is to stifle the West Indies with sustained and accurate spin bowling.

Originally Posted by Dhakablues
Isnt this suppose to be an easy math? If Mehrab is coming to the fold, he is replacing an opener,, and there is no doubt that Nafees is not leaving.
Whether that becomes the reality remains to be seen in couple of days but I agree with most of you guys,,, this team didnt fail miserably other than Ashraful continuing his typical form of 'once in a blue moon strike'.

[Tigers_eye]

Even though Eid days are controversial, but one can fairly judge when they will occur. For Ash, we have no idea when a eid day may occur because he is seldom in form. If he is in form, the extent of it is a max of 2 games. I can't take this floating eid any more.

mukti chai, poddotteg chai.

[FaridpurChicago]

It looks like Mehrab will get a chance. Ash theke amader mukti nai jodi o Ershad theke mukti paoa geche. He got a life time pass. I was reading comments from old captains about Ash in Prothom-Alo; and most of them said we need to say Ash that his position is granted so that he can play freely.
I don't know why people are talking about matches against Zim. If we lose to WI then will there be any interest on our match against Zim. Do we want to show the world that our ultimate opponent is none but Zim.
Don't ever think about the inexperience of Mehrab. Think about the experience of Ash, Pilot; what we are getting from those losers. We need to get rid of these guys.

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by Zobair
The impression I get from the media reports is that if Mehrab comes in it will be at the expense of Rasel i.e. he will bolster the middle order and provide another spin option. Its obvious that the Bangladeshi strategy is to stifle the West Indies with sustained and accurate spin bowling.

I don't get it. If Rasel is dropped who is going to bowl the 10 overs? In last practice match Sakib bowled was tried just one unimpressive over and Mehrab is not tried at all. Basically they didn't practiced at all as bowler. Now we are suddenly hoping that Mehrab and Sakib will make up those extra 1O overs? What a insane assumption that they will be able to do so withpout any practice match under that belt.

If Mehrab needs to come, ne needs to come replacing another batsman, not a bowler at this stage. What a pathetic and shameless way (by the selectors) to pad and babysit Ash at tha sake of ruining other player's career even before it even started.

[khalifa]

Ash theke amader mukti nai jodi o Ershad theke mukti paoa geche - did you mean Lt. Gen. (retd) HM Ershad? If yes, we haven't got 'mukti' from him as of yet, he is coming as a partner in the next govt.
Seems like Ash has the same survivor technics...

[FaridpurChicago]

Originally Posted by khalifa
Ash theke amader mukti nai jodi o Ershad theke mukti paoa geche - did you mean Lt. Gen. (retd) HM Ershad? If yes, we haven't got 'mukti' from him as of yet, he is coming as a partner in the next govt.
Seems like Ash has the same survivor technics...

Hello Khalifa, yes I meant our 'ALHAZ, BISHISHTO KOBI, FULER MOTO POBITRO CHORITRO, Let Gen (retd) ...'. I apologize for telling his name only without all those qualities'. I wanted mukti from Ash who has qualities like 'Youngest test centurian (before 4 yrs), match winner (before two yrs), 50 hitter (before a yr, once a yr), free stroke player (when last time ?)'.

[rafiq]

Not sure why Ershad is being invoked in the same breath as Ashraful. If there is some connection there, the rest of us are having a hard time finding it.

The thread is about Mehrab, not Ash. Ash occassionally does what the other batsman can never do, and on this team it's good enough to get a spot. They are trying him as opener for the next WC, why would he be dropped? having said that, the first way Mehrab could get in is as opener, but I don't know if you experiment with that during a must win game in the champion's trophy.

So if mehrab were to come in for a bowler, the only one he could replace on this wicket against WI is rassel, and there is precendence of BD opening with Mashrafee and the rather ordinary Reza. We already have 30 overs of spin from Rafiq, Razzak, Saquib, plus another couple of leg break from Ash if needed.

They should drop rassel for Mehrab only if they think inclusion of one more spinner will win the match. frankly, I would drop rassel and bring in Shahadat. That way we have 2 solid pacers who will bowl with aggression, 2 solid spinners, and enough parttimers/allrounders to take care of the remaining overs. Gentl pace of rassel and reza will get us killed against WI.

[billah]

Bashar should fake an injury and sit out the match. Ash is jus settling in to the opener position. Dropping SN is out of question, Rasel will prove even more useful than Mashrafee here. So, our habla captain should get the axe.

[boka]

Originally Posted by exotic
Don't insult ashraful comparing with Monoj Provakar.:p

kay jay insulted hoilooo bujhlam na... just have a look at the stats:

As an openar Manoj Prabhakar's average is 34.02 and his career avg is 24.12
where as our AshraFool's avg as opener 15.47 and so far career avg 20.12. Mind't it MP's bowling avg 28.87 and SR 40.50.


Pls also check AF's domestic performance, lozza-ta beray jabay....

[rudro]

Originally Posted by billah
Bashar should fake an injury and sit out the match. Ash is jus settling in to the opener position. Dropping SN is out of question, Rasel will prove even more useful than Mashrafee here. So, our habla captain should get the axe.

I hope not! I want him to stay for batting!

[rudro]

Another idea! Can MEhrab keep? In that case he can come for our PILOT? (Oh, I am sorry I should not even think about dropping Pilot).

[boka]

Originally Posted by rudro
Another idea! Can MEhrab keep? In that case he can come for our PILOT? (Oh, I am sorry I should not even think about dropping Pilot).

Why not AF?

2005
AF 28.21
KM 43.50 [Unfortunately no claps no thanks he got for his job ]
2006
AF 23.73
KM 24.90 [Now all get after him ... but still he is performing better than AF ]

[SS]

will new debut help with any thing...how much can he contribute..max 30 runs...it's the whole team that needs to play with heart and senses. If 3 plays accoring to plan, rest never performs. What good it will do to our result if we keep on brining new changes. For some reason, only few players perform and rest keep on doing worst. No changes can improve this, as our players need to change their way of game.

[billah]

Originally Posted by rudro
I hope not! I want him to stay for batting!

Bashar does not know ODI batting. He is a complete liability for us in ODIs. Since he can not contribute with bowling, and his fielding is miserable at best, and his running between the wickets makes Boycott's mom looks like the 100 meter sprinter, Bashar is the best choice to be dropped from the ODI side. Otherwise he will throw away another opportunity for us to bat first and win a match for a change.

[Miraz]

Billah bhai, I understand your point but still we need Bashar in the team as a captain. In fact we don't have a single player who can take the role as a captain. I was hopeful about SN but his recent acts after VC appointment frustrated me.

Wait for sometime. Hope Bashar will cope with present ODI format or we will find a good leader from the youngstars.