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Old December 7, 2006, 12:38 AM
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Also to mention that certain freedom fighting factions(Indian National Army, and Provisional Government of Free India) during India's independence were allied to Nazis.

Winners write history. If Hitler won the world war II, he wont be a mass murderer, but a great hero for getting rid of British and French imperialism.

I consider Hitler to be a maniac. He is probably a well known murderer, but not the worst. And those who say he is the worst should go back to school and hit the history text books.
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Old December 7, 2006, 08:32 AM
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Absolutely. Objectively, Truman's bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is probably two of the biggest mass-murder acts in history. Hitler is an easier target because he, as you said, was a maniac as well.
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Old December 7, 2006, 04:50 PM
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i think this is what Truman figured.

if we go there the traditional way. like marines landing on beaches we would probably lose another 500000 US soldiers.( i read the figure somewhere , i dont remember where) but if we drop two big ones then a lot of ppl will die but they wont be ours.and the war will probably end saving more lives.


BTW do u guys know that Today is Pearl harbor day
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Old December 7, 2006, 04:57 PM
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Well, those are speculative figures and contentious arguments usually given by those who try to take the focus away from the objective result of Truman's actions.
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Old December 7, 2006, 05:36 PM
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y did japan exactly attack USA?
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Old December 7, 2006, 07:27 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
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Old December 7, 2006, 07:59 PM
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i think this is what Truman figured.
or maybe it was triggered more by pumping veins in response to the Pearl Harbor incident.

either way, i don't know what the heck he was thinking.
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Old December 7, 2006, 10:25 PM
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arnab i went there. i dont hav time now to read all those . i will when i hav time.
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Old December 8, 2006, 02:30 AM
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y did japan exactly attack USA?
In a nutshell, to get rid of American Imperialism from Asia. Get rid of US influence. By signing the pact with Nazis put them at odd with US who just finished up the Germans.

Secondly, Japan wanted its own colonies and couldnt do so with American presence in Pacific and Philippines. Its not easy going around and invading colonies with US backing them up.

Thirdly, most of Asia which Japan aimed to conquer were colonies of British and French like south-east asian countries, India, Australia. British and French were friends and allies of American so you take their land and you upset America in the long run.

Lastly, because of the above 3 reasons, American began to put sanctions on Japan in oil and froze Japan's assets. That was very bad for Japan's war machine and economy as oil is the life blood of it.

Japan had either 2 option, either give up to American demands and pull out or stay up and fight. So they chose to fight. First venue, Pearl Harbour where the pacific fleet of Americans were stationed.

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