facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old June 14, 2007, 09:13 AM
mali007 mali007 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: April 12, 2007
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Favorite Player: Sakib , Tamim
Posts: 1,273

SL tour is always a tough one. Even coach like Greg Chappel was humiliated with strong Indian team on his very 1st SL tour. So, we have to accept the OUTCOME of SL tour with REALITY. Do not jump to blame the new coach or the captain for any debacle unjustifyingly.
Reply With Quote

  #52  
Old June 14, 2007, 09:28 AM
Fazal's Avatar
Fazal Fazal is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: September 16, 2004
Posts: 18,172

We always like the reserve QB, the reserve player, the underdog, the assitant coach rather than the main QB/regular player/the head coach/etc. Its natural. SW will be in honeymoon period in SL series regardless of his apparant success/failure.

The real test will begin only if/when he is slected as Head Coach.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old June 14, 2007, 09:40 AM
Sohel's Avatar
Sohel Sohel is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: April 18, 2007
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: Nazimuddin
Posts: 35,464

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fazal
We always like the reserve QB, the reserve player, the underdog, the assitant coach rather than the main QB/regular player/the head coach/etc. Its natural. SW will be in honeymoon period in SL series regardless of his apparant success/failure.

The real test will begin only if/when he is slected as Head Coach.
you have a point there. gary hogaboom comes to mind from the early 80s, when he was danny white's backup (that was the last time i seriously followed football) ... but then again, wasn't steve young joe montana's backup ?
__________________
"And do not curse those who call on other than GOD, lest they blaspheme and curse GOD, out of ignorance. We have adorned the works of every group in their eyes. Ultimately, they return to their Lord, then He informs them of everything they had done." (Qur'an 6:108)

Last edited by Sohel; June 14, 2007 at 09:56 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old June 14, 2007, 07:48 PM
shovon13 shovon13 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: January 27, 2004
Location: Riverside, CA
Favorite Player: Mustafizur Rahman
Posts: 1,551

i'd be very happy to give shaun the coaching job of the national team. he's been in bangladesh for some time, knows how the system works, knows how to harness the eagerness of our young players. we dont need to go into a detailed search to find a national coach - its the players who carry the fortune of the team. our u-19 team will surely miss him though.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old June 15, 2007, 05:41 PM
fhstar fhstar is offline
Street Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 11, 2006
Posts: 46

I originally made the following comment in the "2007 Coach Hunt Thread":

I was wondering why not give Shaun Williams a chance to be our national team coach, say for the next one year. He is at present the BD National Development manager, and most of our young players have worked with him in the recent past. True, he doesn't have experience as a high-profile coach, but all coaches have to start somewhere. When John Wright, Dave Whatmore, Bob Woolmer started coaching national teams, they didn't have the experience of coaching a country before. Shaun seems really dedicated to help Bangladesh cricket in any capacity, so why not give him the chance to show what he is capable of?

http://thedailystar.net/2007/06/10/d70610040237.htm
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old June 15, 2007, 06:32 PM
FaridpurChicago's Avatar
FaridpurChicago FaridpurChicago is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 13, 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 579

Quote:
Originally Posted by P.Warner
Gus Logie had proved himself to be a useful coach and a good motivator. Perhaps he should be considered as well?
Bhai, no gus, no tree, no plant and even no west Indian. Remember, we gave nationality to G greenidge. I hope that passport expired.
__________________
Bangla - Amar root, amar thikana
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old June 15, 2007, 06:35 PM
FaridpurChicago's Avatar
FaridpurChicago FaridpurChicago is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 13, 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 579

Yes, it is too/three early to comment on SW but it is not too late to say that DW had technical short comings. Gavasker recently mentioned that Bashar didn't receive sound backing from his coach to guide the team on the field. We passed the stage of motivation, we passed the stage of self believe. Now it is time to correct our technical problems.

Lets see, who can do that.
__________________
Bangla - Amar root, amar thikana
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old June 15, 2007, 07:32 PM
MohammedC MohammedC is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: April 15, 2007
Location: Manchester,UK
Favorite Player: bhujee kom
Posts: 22,588

Shaun Williams never played first class cricket. This tour is the highest of anything he done in cricket.

Profile
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old June 15, 2007, 08:17 PM
Nafis_BD's Avatar
Nafis_BD Nafis_BD is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 2, 2006
Location: Scarborough, Ontario (Canada)
Favorite Player: BD Team Players
Posts: 3,446

I don't get how some of the guys here are already jumping into the conclusion.......BD didn't even start the tour yet and already some people want SW as our permanent coach, We haven't won a single game under him and you guys wan't SW as our coach?We can't make this decision so hastily ... we need to see the outcomes first then and only then could we and BCB decide who would be appropriate to be our new coach.Someone already said that SL tour is really hard and this tour might not go well but it isn't cause of the coach and etc but that actually should help us on deciding wether he should be hired as our new coach, Why? Because this tour is gonna be a challenge to him and if we win and perform really well under him like a win win situation then we would know that he can be a good coach for us........we have to win against the big boys anyways so if we win against them then we could probably get a good idea of what his strategies are against them and if they are good or not and are those game winning startegies and etc.Also as someone said SW is good otherwise how would he be coaching us then? but Richar Mccines should still be our coach.I absolutely agree with him, and we need SW to take care of the U-19,A teams and etc and Richard Mccines to take care of the national team!!!
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old June 15, 2007, 08:27 PM
AsifTheManRahman's Avatar
AsifTheManRahman AsifTheManRahman is offline
Super Moderator
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,677

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nafis_BD
I don't get how some of the guys here are already jumping into the conclusion.......BD didn't even start the tour yet and already some people want SW as our permanent coach, We haven't won a single game under him and you guys wan't SW as our coach?We can't make this decision so hastily ... we need to see the outcomes first then and only then could we and BCB decide who would be appropriate to be our new coach.Someone already said that SL tour is really hard and this tour might not go well but it isn't cause of the coach and etc but that actually should help us on deciding wether he should be hired as our new coach, Why? Because this tour is gonna be a challenge to him and if we win and perform really well under him like a win win situation then we would know that he can be a good coach for us........we have to win against the big boys anyways so if we win against them then we could probably get a good idea of what his strategies are against them and if they are good or not and are those game winning startegies and etc.Also as someone said SW is good otherwise how would he be coaching us then? but Richar Mccines should still be our coach.I absolutely agree with him, and we need SW to take care of the U-19,A teams and etc and Richard Mccines to take care of the national team!!!
to add to that, coaching an international team requires vision, a good understanding of the game at this level, and a good knowledge of various scenarios and how to deal with them.

this tour will probably be an indication of whether shaun has all of that. a lot of the technical glitches should be fixed at an early age anyways, so being able to identify them alone is not something that will ensure success at the highest level.

btw, none of this is to take anything away from shaun - he's done an excellent job with the reserves and i have no doubt about his skills. calling for making him head coach, however, is a bit too much at this point.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old June 15, 2007, 08:48 PM
Nafis_BD's Avatar
Nafis_BD Nafis_BD is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 2, 2006
Location: Scarborough, Ontario (Canada)
Favorite Player: BD Team Players
Posts: 3,446

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
to add to that, coaching an international team requires vision, a good understanding of the game at this level, and a good knowledge of various scenarios and how to deal with them.

this tour will probably be an indication of whether shaun has all of that. a lot of the technical glitches should be fixed at an early age anyways, so being able to identify them alone is not something that will ensure success at the highest level.

btw, none of this is to take anything away from shaun - he's done an excellent job with the reserves and i have no doubt about his skills. calling for making him head coach, however, is a bit too much at this point.
Absolutely right...........Making him head coach already or calling for him to be head coach already might be too much now because we haven't seen the outcomes yet!! SW is a great coach but our real question is,"Is he good enough to be our permanent coach?" and the answer is:We don't know yet we need to see if he has all that mentioned above and even more...we need to see how he does his coaching to make us win matches or play better and if that matches with the qualities mentioned above and even more then knock yourself out and vote for SW to be our permanent coach(Not literally) then if you guys chose him then I have no problem but now without even seeing the outcome pls don't chose him and have him as our only option because there are many other coaches who could do that as well and we need to give a chance to them as well(Richard Mccines as an example) again we are not taking away anything from SW or critizing his abilites and etc we just want the decision to be perfect if not 99.99 percent perfect which will benefit us alot and for that we need to be open minded and see what other coaches can do and cannot do and how that will benefit us!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket