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Old May 23, 2004, 06:28 AM
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Razzak Raj, I believe has left for Dhaka. So Enamul is the likely contender for any of the team probables.
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Old May 24, 2004, 12:54 AM
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Seeing how brittle our batting is, I have changed our mind and think we should go with 6 specialist batsmen after all. That leaves room for 4 bowlers, so 2 spinners and 2 pacers would seem most balanced. Normally I would have picked Javed/Hannan to open. But a third spinner can add a lot of weapons to the team.. so maybe we should open with Rana?

Hannan
Javed or Rana
Bashar
Rajin
Ashraful
Faisal (could move up the order to 3 before the very fragile Bashar-Rajin duo)
Pilot
Enamul
Rafique
Tapash
Tareq

If we were taking Rana I may opt for Mushfiq instead of tareq for added batting depth, otherwise we can do without Mushfique.

Whatever the team is, taking 3 pacers is conventional wisdom but I hope we don't do it.
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Old May 24, 2004, 01:21 AM
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normally, i'd not even think of opening test with rana, we need speciallist batsman. but JO did not show any sign of performance to justify his inclusion, but neither did rajin or hannan. so, i'd still like to go with hannan and javed.
i did posted team before, but looking at the practice match, i'll go with this:
1. J Omar
2. H Sarkar
3. H Bashar
4. R Saleh
5. M Asharaful
6. F Hossain
7. M Rana
8. M Babu
9. K Masud
10. M Rafique
11. T Baisha

Our bowling can go with Taposh, rafique, mushfique and rana, and even rajin if needed, but we need strong batting line up since its the batting thats always causes trouble. in my squad, even the 11th player has the ability to stay on the wicket and up until 10 are all been prove to be batsmen in somewhere or somewhere else.
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Old May 24, 2004, 04:51 AM
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#Faisal already deserves to be in th squad with his 40 in the practice match.

#what's wrong with rajin?.. he is out of rhythem for the last few matches.

#Kapali probably isnt worth any chance at the moment.

#Ash seems to be back on track!

#What kind of fielding is it by the team in practice match??!!
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Old May 24, 2004, 11:50 AM
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West Indies squad for first Test::

Chris Gayle, Devon Smith, Brian Lara (capt), Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Ridley Jacobs (wk), Dave Mohammed, Ravi Rampaul, Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, Jermaine Lawson, Pedro Collins.
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Old May 24, 2004, 11:57 AM
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West Indies squad for first Test::

Chris Gayle, Devon Smith, Brian Lara (capt), Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Ridley Jacobs (wk), Dave Mohammed, Ravi Rampaul, Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, Jermaine Lawson, Pedro Collins.
Tino Best
Fidel Edwards
Jermaine Lawson
Pedro Collins

Good Pace Attack
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Old May 24, 2004, 05:38 PM
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Default First test sledging

EnglandWIndian wrote :

"Tino Best
Fidel Edwards
Jermaine Lawson
Pedro Collins

Good Pace Attack"

If you think that, you obviously have never seen an actual West Indian pace attack. None of them are fit to clean the boots of, say, Curtly Ambrose, let alone one of the great West Indies quicks.

None of those men would make 12th man in the Australian side (and me, I'd pick a fit Mustafa Moshrafe over any of them).

And in Cairns, Bangladesh went *this* close to 300 in a day against the first string Australian bowling attack of McGrath, Gillespie and Lee.

Lessee, how did the Windies go against that attack when batting first ... out for 237 in Georgetown.

If the Banglos bat first, it's going to come down to the first session. If they can survive that, that bowling attack can be taken apart by batsmen of the class of Bashar and Sarker.

Then we see how good the heart of the West Indies side is.

Wait, we know that already ...

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Old May 24, 2004, 06:10 PM
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Agree with IanW. This pace attck is nothing special. But considering the frailty of our top order, any pace attack is fearsome. Unfortunate thing is that Lawson won't be reported when he plays Bangladesh; But his action will be questioned by all other teams teams. That's why they did not play him against England.
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Old May 25, 2004, 12:40 AM
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Whatmore should be agree with me.
This is my Team:
1)Hannan Sarkar(BD best test openar)
2)Javed Omar(He can servibe long time in the creez; forget about Practice match)
3)Habibul Bashar(O he is our Captain)
4)Faisal Hossain(Must playing; Lefty, play pace well)
5)Razin Saleh(I hope he will do better)
6)Ashraful(In better touch; Good possition for him)
7)Manjarul Islam Rana(He is informed BD player I ever seen; Bowling & Batting)
8)Khaled Mashud Pilot(We don't have any other way; also he a good batsman)
9)Mohammad Rafique(He is the best test bowler for Bangladesh)
10)Mushfiq-Ur-Rahman///Enamul Huq Jr. It's depend on the pitch(I prefered Mushfiq for some large batting line and also we need 2 pace bowler in our bowling lineup)
11)Taposh Baishwa(Informed pace bowler)

Line up I think for Bangladesh
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Old May 25, 2004, 03:04 AM
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Agree with IanW. This pace attck is nothing special. But considering the frailty of our top order, any pace attack is fearsome. Unfortunate thing is that Lawson won't be reported when he plays Bangladesh; But his action will be questioned by all other teams teams. That's why they did not play him against England.
Very good points Optimist!!
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Old May 25, 2004, 03:09 AM
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Unfortunate thing is that Lawson won't be reported when he plays Bangladesh; But his action will be questioned by all other teams teams. That's why they did not play him against England.
So far I know, his one year suspension expired after WI vs. ENG series. Otherwise he might play that series.

This is, to my knowledge, the first series for him after his suspension has been over.
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Old May 25, 2004, 03:45 AM
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So far I know, his one year suspension expired after WI vs. ENG series. Otherwise he might play that series.

This is, to my knowledge, the first series for him after his suspension has been over. [/quote]

Was he suspended? Is not like that "if he is reported within one year of the first reporting he will be suspend" or similar to that. Did not read something like Lawson was suspened for a year or so. I know he was injured for a while and working on his bowling !
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Old May 25, 2004, 04:41 AM
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Was he suspended? Is not like that "if he is reported within one year of the first reporting he will be suspend" or similar to that. Did not read something like Lawson was suspened for a year or so. I know he was injured for a while and working on his bowling !
Sorry! He was not suspended. He was reported by unpires David Shepherd and Venkat last year in May. And after that in Stage 1, biomechanics specialist report went against him. To avoid being reported again WI did not include himin any national squad for 1 year, and went on remedial efforts. He was tested in a practice match against England in last March to see the progress. WICB considered it to be good, but still did not risk to have him reported again and waited till the one year period expires.

This is the story.

Chronological reports are available in his player profile (scroll down to see the headlines).

Sorry, I could not also manage time to read now, but I the above is what I can remember. There was no factor of injury.

[Edited on 25-5-2004 by abhs]
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Old May 25, 2004, 04:47 AM
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good to see no one has alamgir kabir in their choice of teams, if he is the tema, i would go crazy
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Old May 25, 2004, 06:48 AM
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Considering Lara's ability to play spin i would strongly suggest playing Tareq
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:46 AM
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Was he suspended? Is not like that "if he is reported within one year of the first reporting he will be suspend" or similar to that. Did not read something like Lawson was suspened for a year or so. I know he was injured for a while and working on his bowling !
Sorry! He was not suspended. He was reported by unpires David Shepherd and Venkat last year in May. And after that in Stage 1, biomechanics specialist report went against him. To avoid being reported again WI did not include himin any national squad for 1 year, and went on remedial efforts. He was tested in a practice match against England in last March to see the progress. WICB considered it to be good, but still did not risk to have him reported again and waited till the one year period expires.

This is the story.

Chronological reports are available in his player profile (scroll down to see the headlines).

Sorry, I could not also manage time to read now, but I the above is what I can remember. There was no factor of injury.

[Edited on 25-5-2004 by abhs]
Was he reported after the Bangladesh match? NOOOOOOOOO. He was reported immediately after his heroics against Australia. That's what my point was.
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by OptimistWas he reported after the Bangladesh match? NOOOOOOOOO. He was reported immediately after his heroics against Australia. That's what my point was.
I got the hidden point.
Yes, a valid point indeed.
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Old May 25, 2004, 03:47 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Hasibul
Whatmore should be agree with me.
This is my Team:
1)Hannan Sarkar(BD best test openar)
2)Javed Omar(He can servibe long time in the creez; forget about Practice match)
*******************

I like this team, but Javed is a mistake. Can Javed make me wrong? I think both Babu and Enamul can be included, but not Javed. He cant play the bouncer well, and likely get out giving catch behind the stapms. Watch him struggle....
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Old May 25, 2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by ZaKi
West Indies squad for first Test::

Chris Gayle, Devon Smith, Brian Lara (capt), Ramnaresh Sarwan, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Ridley Jacobs (wk), Dave Mohammed, Ravi Rampaul, Tino Best, Fidel Edwards, Jermaine Lawson, Pedro Collins.
Tino Best
Fidel Edwards
Jermaine Lawson
Pedro Collins

Good Pace Attack
I hope BD face the WI stormy pace with resolve. This might be test where BD mama's boy become a man!!!

Bring it on!!!

[Edited on 25-5-2004 by sage]
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