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Old May 24, 2004, 06:31 PM
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'We need big hitters'
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Former captain Khaled Mahmud believes that Bangladesh desperately need some big hitting batsmen if they are to win one-day matches.
The veteran of 59 one-day internationals made the remark after returning from the West Indies on Monday.

"We lack batsman capable of using the long handle when it comes to curtailed-over contest. It was evident in the ODIs against West Indies," said Mahmud who along with injured opener Shahriar Hossain and uncapped left-arm spinner Abdur Razzak flew home after the three-match one-day series that the Tigers lost 3-0.

But the diminutive all-rounder felt that if Bangladesh had won the first game then things could have been different.

"Still I can't believe that we lost the first one-day match and that near miss upset the players. If we had won that match it could have been a different story," said Mahmud while referring to the one-wicket loss in the first one-day at St Vincent on May 15.


Bangladesh scored only 144-9 in that game but the bowlers almost pulled off an incredible victory when they picked up nine West Indies wickets but that was not enough.

Mahmud was one of the three bowlers who did the damage and the military medium pacer thinks that this is area Bangladesh has shown marked improvement.

"We made significant improvement in bowling and fielding but the batting still remains a cause of concern. Our batsmen repeatedly made same mistakes and I believe there is need of some creative thinking to overcome those errors."

When asked what he meant by creative thinking Mahmud said that it was something to do with the change of attitude of a player.

"We have grown up with an idea that scoring in the 30s or 40s is enough to keep ones place intact in the side. This view has to change because our aim is to win matches now instead of playing only good cricket.

To do that we have to introduce a system of substitute players", said Mahmud adding that Bangladesh need a very strong A team.

The thinking cricketer also highlighted the problem our players faced in the two rain-reduced 25-over matches.

"In such situations you need some good clean hitters that our opponents had in abundance. But we have only a couple like Alok Kapali who is desperately out of touch now. The other player is Rafique who can hit the ball quite a distance", said the 33-year-old Mahmud, who admitted he himself had lost his big hitting prowess.

"Now I'm just a bowler who can bat a bit. May be batting at number nine does not give someone a chance to show his batting skills but I feel that I have also let the team down with my batting," Mahmud said. He took three wickets and scored only five runs in the ODI series.
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Old May 24, 2004, 07:22 PM
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We have always needed strong clean hitters. That not really a new complaint. The real frustration is that we *still* havent found such a person.

We always speak about how much talent there is on our system. I am yet to see a genuine talent for clean hitting.
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Old May 24, 2004, 07:26 PM
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I haven't seen Ashraful play, but heard very good words about him regarding clean hitting.
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Old May 24, 2004, 09:58 PM
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Yes, I am surprised that Sujon did not mention Ashraful when he was talking about the list of clean-hitters (Kapali/Rafique).
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Old May 25, 2004, 12:12 AM
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3 wickets and 5 runs - that says it all. Disgraceful.

If he was such an Honest Chacha, he would admit he is taking up space on the team for no good reason. Military medium pace isn't exactly scaring the world's premier batsmen.

Finally, since he mentioned rafique by name and alluded to a complete fabrication that he (Sujon) comes in at #9, he should have pointed out that Rafique should have come out in the 20th over in the 3rd ODI, not Chacha the goat.
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Old May 25, 2004, 01:33 AM
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Old May 25, 2004, 04:42 AM
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we need 1 clean hitter who is a big hitter, like flintoff, gillchirst, cairns, blignaut, pollock, adur razzak, etc.
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Old May 25, 2004, 06:04 AM
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3 wickets and 5 runs - that says it all. Disgraceful.

If he was such an Honest Chacha, he would admit he is taking up space on the team for no good reason. Military medium pace isn't exactly scaring the world's premier batsmen.

Finally, since he mentioned rafique by name and alluded to a complete fabrication that he (Sujon) comes in at #9, he should have pointed out that Rafique should have come out in the 20th over in the 3rd ODI, not Chacha the goat.
I agree that Rafique should have come earlier in the last match, he is the only one who can really use the long handle. But it is not Sujon's fault since he is not the captain. Besides you must have forgotten his bowling figures in the first and second ODIs. He was way more effective than our so called "faster bowlers". Infact he is almost the best ODI player we have, just see the records.......
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Old May 25, 2004, 06:59 AM
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:30 AM
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I liked the interview by Sujon (though there is nothing new in it). I would like it more if he said he would not play anymore international cricket and instead use his 'thinking' brain to find those 'big' hitters he is talking about.
That would be very fitting.
it is hard to understand the opposition towards sujon. Dont you guys see his figures??
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:35 AM
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I liked the interview by Sujon (though there is nothing new in it). I would like it more if he said he would not play anymore international cricket and instead use his 'thinking' brain to find those 'big' hitters he is talking about.
That would be very fitting.
his bowling figures ofcourse:P
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:49 AM
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:55 AM
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I liked the interview by Sujon (though there is nothing new in it). I would like it more if he said he would not play anymore international cricket and instead use his 'thinking' brain to find those 'big' hitters he is talking about.
That would be very fitting.
it is hard to understand the opposition towards sujon. Dont you guys see his figures??
"His claim of being an allrounder is clearly more a reflection of his physique than abilities in cricket."

talk about figures!
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Old May 25, 2004, 07:58 AM
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Someone like Nasser Hussain calls it a day just after scoring a test hundred. And we think our chacha is larger than life!
Blimey!
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Old May 25, 2004, 09:27 AM
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what about..pick up some 'sontrashi' from the BD street who are very smooth in using hockey or any other sticks to blow hardly over any auto.....

We will find our big hitter !!!


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Old May 25, 2004, 10:15 AM
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"We have grown up with an idea that scoring in the 30s or 40s is enough to keep ones place intact in the side. This view has to change because our aim is to win matches now instead of playing only good cricket.
Cant disagree here... Good observation..
this mindset of the players is really doing the team no good.. and its obvious that the Batsmen arn't giving all they got as very often the bowlers are doing.. even in feilding too.
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Old May 25, 2004, 10:35 AM
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I find it difficult to see any spread in our players' actual contributing performance. In that respect, it gets very difficult to understand how one can so vehemently be against one single person ?

Must be a blood(y) thing, maybe ?

I really just love each Bangladeshi player going out their and playing - except that guy maybe, Shezan, after coming down the pitch trying to hoist a 80 mph from Pollock !! Dumb-dodo !!

I think sooner or later we'll be putting everything together. And that could easily take 5 more years. Whatmore's effect has already been blended in...now it is a matter of diminishing returns. And this is where the role of the system comes in. It will have to be nurtured over time.

That will have to be a long term item, and requiring more patience.
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Old May 25, 2004, 10:37 AM
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I love the sontrashi enrollment idea. This might be the silver bullet for all of Bangladesh's ills. Pick up all the big-hitting, armed mastans from the streets and send them to BKSP for rehabilitation and cricket!

BangladeshFan, I sincerely believe you could pick up more wickets than Sujon if you bowled for Bangladesh. On his day he does well on slower wickets, but his time is up. And he should bat at 11.
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Old May 25, 2004, 10:57 AM
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Default We need explosive hitter just like this chacha

Our own chacha could use his technique to revive his batting carrier.


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Old May 25, 2004, 01:46 PM
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I find it difficult to see any spread in our players' actual contributing performance. In that respect, it gets very difficult to understand how one can so vehemently be against one single person ?

Must be a blood(y) thing, maybe ?
You like it or not, everyone is entitled to have an opinion unless he/she lives in cloud cuckoo land.
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Old May 25, 2004, 05:08 PM
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And some opinions are as misleading & meaningless as those coming out of that guy's head you have over their.
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Old May 26, 2004, 12:32 AM
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Someone like Nasser Hussain calls it a day just after scoring a test hundred. And we think our chacha is larger than life!
Ouch!

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And some opinions are as misleading & meaningless as those coming out of that guy's head you have over their.
Che a victim of gratuitious attack from Punditji. When will the Habana elite stop persecuting him!

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Old May 26, 2004, 12:58 PM
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My 12-going-on-13 year old floppy haired soccer stud son is looking for a Che T-shirt and promises to start a Communist Party at one of Chicago's most conservative and shiny white suburban high schools when he gets there.

How do I stop him, and get his damn hair cut down to size while I'm at it?
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