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Old September 21, 2004, 11:00 AM
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Default Rise of England

Looks like England is going to pull one off today against Australia without the Flintoff factor. Are they a team potentially to challenge Australia's dominance. Besides, Pakistan I don't see any other teams contending.
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Old September 21, 2004, 11:10 AM
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lets wait till the match has finished before we comment on the 'rise of England'! The ODI team still has many weaknesses to overcome, so you cant take anything for granted...
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Old September 21, 2004, 11:15 AM
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Nothing surprising really. All their bowlers are improving and above all their opener Trescothick.

England have been vastly underrated. I mean last year, c'mon, even some of our own boys took potshots. They should study it, play it and truly master it before commenting on cricket.
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Old September 21, 2004, 11:26 AM
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Seems like the Aussies have to wait a while longer for the Champion's Trophy! The say its a curse, may be from different ashes

But the game is still on ...
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Old September 21, 2004, 11:40 AM
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Next game, I want to cheer for WI. Rooting for all the underdogs in the world. Also I wanna see WI take some revenge. Stealing Ashley Giles' words, "Everyone likes and underdog and every dog has his day." ha..ha..ha..

Regardless, I think England is making a comeback. They are the next team to look out for.
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Old September 21, 2004, 06:28 PM
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The ODI team still has many weaknesses to overcome, so you cant take anything for granted...
The English team could only get better. We are going to unleash the likes of Kevin Peterson, Bilal Shafayat pretty soon.

Cometh summer '05, We're gonna be firing on all cylinders. Did I say 'ashes' anywhere?
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Old September 21, 2004, 06:42 PM
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England is the 2nd ranked test team in the world according to ICC Table after their 7-0 thrashing of opponents in this summer. As for ODI, future does look bright, well, if they keep picking up the right players!

1. Mark Trescothick
2. V. Solanki / Rob Key
3. Micheal Vaughan
4. Andrew Strauss
5. Kevin Peterson
6. Andrew Flintoff
7. Gerient Jones
8. Mathew Hoggard
9. Ashley Giles
10. Steve Hermison (GBH)
11. Darren Gough *

If Goughy fades away in a year time then there will be a little compition between J. Anderson & S. Jones.
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Old September 21, 2004, 08:07 PM
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They are likely to win the final in this form but the way I see it they were lucky to have defeated Australia like that. You have to bare in mind that England are playing on home ground and thus have an advantage of knowing the pitches. It will be an interesting final now.
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Old September 21, 2004, 11:11 PM
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Who is Kevin Peterson. I hope Jimmie Anderson gets in infront of Simon Jones
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Old September 22, 2004, 09:31 AM
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guys dont forget, but one of ur players, nafis iqbal, once called this eng bowling attack as ordinary after making 118 in a warm-up match against eng

thats the best comment i have cn a bangladeshi make
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Old September 22, 2004, 11:27 AM
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England played very well. Their bowling, batting and fielding is excellent now. I think they are going to win ICC Champions Trophy this year.
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Old September 23, 2004, 02:04 AM
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Yes i was going to bet on England winning the champions trophy at the beginning of the tournament. But i though they would lose to Australia. Now i wish i did make that bet.

I liked the comment by Nafis Iqbal but its a pitty he hasnt lived up to that confidence so far. Maybe he will in the NZ tour. I hope so.
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Old September 23, 2004, 04:16 AM
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nafis iqbal has not been given too many chances since that comment and when he got it, he made a 40 against south africa.

i hope he makes another 100 against nz and calls even nz bowling attack as "ordinary".
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Old September 23, 2004, 07:56 AM
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amit. as far as I can remember, Nafis called the english spin attack was ordinery, not the english bowling attack as a whole.

Edited on, September 23, 2004, 12:56 PM GMT, by Navarene.
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Old September 23, 2004, 08:34 AM
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English bowling attack is awesome! If you have Anderson, Jones and Saggers out of the best XI then you can't claim their attack as ordinary

New Zealand on the other hand...
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Old September 23, 2004, 08:40 AM
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Yeah he did call the spinners ordinary. But that did include Ashley Giles
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Old September 23, 2004, 02:40 PM
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Who is Kevin Peterson. I hope Jimmie Anderson gets in infront of Simon Jones
Kevin Peterson will be the next Graham Gooch for England ( apart from the fact that only his mom was born in England!). Unless he proves out to be a Graem Hick, from October England side would have 6 solid batsmen who would score anywhere in any condition. Kevin Peterson is one of the top run scorer for last few seasons in county league (average always high 50s). He also played masterfully for England A in recent India series scoring quite a few centuries. Unlike most of the English qualified players, he can play spin too!
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Old September 25, 2004, 01:56 AM
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bhatija called the whole bowling as ordinary, not just the spin-attack.

habibul_fan, i dont c anything awesome in eng bowling attack. if they go to sub-continent/aus, they will be murdered by the batsman.
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