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Old August 12, 2009, 03:45 PM
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But for Shakib to able to actually open the bowling with Russel, I think its unfair to accuse PU of poor sportsmanship.
We are saying the above after the match is over. Think the moment when Shakib requested for a runner-for sure he was having problem when he was RBW. By law, PU has all the rights to rebuff a runner for Shakib, but indubitably its poor sportsmanship.
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Old August 12, 2009, 03:53 PM
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Kevin Pietersen bhai, kaua hoilo amader jatiyo pakhi (kon halay daail khaya dowel rakhchilo ke jaaney!). Kaua chara Bangladesh kisui na.

কাক কে জাতীয় পাখী করা হউক...
শামীম মিঞা ভাই, পোল মাষ্টার, কেন ইউ প্লিজ...
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Old August 12, 2009, 03:55 PM
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we are saying the above after the match is over. Think the moment when shakib requested for a runner-for sure he was having problem when he was rbw. By law, pu has all the rights to rebuff a runner for shakib, but indubitably its poor sportsmanship.
ইন্‌ডীড, ইন্‌ডীড। এই কারনে তৃতীয়, চতুর্থ ও পঞ্চম ওয়ান্‌ ডে তে উতসেয়াকে ধরে ধোলাই দেওয়া হবে। এটা হবে বোনাস গণধোলাই - অন টপ অব হোয়াট হী গট ফর দ্যা সেকণ্ড ওডিআই। এ গণধোলাইতে তামিম, আশরাফুল, রকিব, জুনায়েদ, মুশফিক, মাহ্‌মুদুল্লাহ্‌, নায়ীমও সামিল হবে। এমনকি এনাম, রাসেল, নাজমুলরাও চামে দিয়ে দু'চারটা লাথি মেরে দিলে আশ্চর্য্য হব না।
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Old August 12, 2009, 03:56 PM
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KP, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Sakib can be called unsporting too for asking for a runner for an injury that has not affected his game play (bowling, batting, or fielding), though I am sure he was very uncomfortable playing through pain.
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Old August 12, 2009, 03:56 PM
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Wish the thread header were in English, so our international audience could participate. A few pommies on this particular subject, we would have a full circus by now....
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Old August 12, 2009, 06:13 PM
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this reminds me of Vettori denying Imr Nazir to get a runner i guess.
জাই হক উতসেয়া ঠিক সাকিব ভুল।
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Old August 12, 2009, 07:39 PM
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this reminds me of Vettori denying Imr Nazir to get a runner i guess.
জাই হক উতসেয়া ঠিক সাকিব ভুল।
If you're referring to the T20 WC in 2007, Vettori did give Nazir the runner and later was upset to see him jumping around fine after Pakistan won.
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Old August 13, 2009, 05:36 AM
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KP, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Sakib can be called unsporting too for asking for a runner for an injury that has not affected his game play (bowling, batting, or fielding), though I am sure he was very uncomfortable playing through pain.
.... with off field injury. And surely it hasn't affected his game in any way.

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ইন্‌ডীড, ইন্‌ডীড। এই কারনে তৃতীয়, চতুর্থ ও পঞ্চম ওয়ান্‌ ডে তে উতসেয়াকে ধরে ধোলাই দেওয়া হবে। এটা হবে বোনাস গণধোলাই - অন টপ অব হোয়াট হী গট ফর দ্যা সেকণ্ড ওডিআই। এ গণধোলাইতে তামিম, আশরাফুল, রকিব, জুনায়েদ, মুশফিক, মাহ্‌মুদুল্লাহ্‌, নায়ীমও সামিল হবে। এমনকি এনাম, রাসেল, নাজমুলরাও চামে দিয়ে দু'চারটা লাথি মেরে দিলে আশ্চর্য্য হব না।
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Old August 13, 2009, 08:00 AM
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ইটস টাইম টু কিক সাম হ্যাস। উৎসেয়া উইল বি ড্রীমিং অনলি ব্যাড ড্রীমস।
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Old August 13, 2009, 10:40 AM
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anyone remembers the Multan test??where Rafique did not run the batsman[i think yasir ali] out, rather called him and said, stay in the crease mate.
that to me is cricket, he could have got him out, BD would have won the match, but then someone would v said BD won the game like a 'kau-a'.
I personally dont think that a batsman should even ask the opposing captain for a runner, the umpires should make the call, and what Utseya did was very unsporty. Did not expect that from an international cricket captain.
_____Its cricket, the gentlemen's game______

it was Umar GUL, the last batsman.

i remember at the end of the match, some journalist ask Miandad about his reaction and rafiq's greatness: he answered, there is nothing great, its part of the game. rafiq shouldnt have done that.

similar answer was delivered by rashid latif

If rafiq wouldnt do that, we would have our first test win again pak, just like first ODI against pak (big team)

c walsh (WI) did this once too
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Old August 13, 2009, 10:42 AM
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আইন এবং (খেলোয়ারীসুলভ) মানবিকতা দুই জিনিস।
not at all. sporting spirt means playing it by the rules. batsmen are denied runners frequently by the fielding captain. its nothing new and its certainly not any infringement on the game's 'spirit.'
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Old August 13, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Anisur Rahman of Bangladesh, many many years back did the same thing against India and didnt run out another player. But Also, Imran Khan, the Pakistani captain also recalled an opposition batsman who started to walk towards the paviliion when he figured out that the batsman was not out but given out by the umpire. There are many gestures like this and Bangladeshi players were always known for their politeness and sportsmanship. Hence, when Shahadat started his stare at his batsman,, it was shocking, unprecedented and unknown to Bangladeshi players.

As Utseya didnt demonstrate his confidence and sportsmanship as a "HOST" captain, Saqib also blasted that refusal to a match winning century. On the same token, we all heard what Saqib was saying between the wicket ( Pitcher majhkhan diye dowra..) and that to me was not much gentelmen-isque either.

At the end, none will remember how Anisur Rahman couldve brought that win against India for us when we were not an ODI playing country, nor will the history book say Rafique saved Pakistan. We lost in both occassions but did win the hearts of many with our sportsmanship behavior. I dont know of any other sports other than circket where the captain has that much influence, power and entitlement. Prosper Utseya failed. As a Host captain, as a player and as a gentleman.
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Old August 13, 2009, 03:07 PM
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The need for a runner was NOT a result of a game related injury. Shakib could have 'retired hurt'.

The examples of run outs are a different type of issue.
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Old August 13, 2009, 06:54 PM
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Prosper Utseya failed. As a Host captain, as a player and as a gentleman.
End of debate.
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End of debate.
Well said, KauaPurush.
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Well said, KauaPurush.
Much thanks for the compliments, Zunaid Bhai
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