Bangladesh in Europe 2012 -Ireland, Scotland, and the Netherlands

[MSM B2C]

Probable Squad for Ireland Tour:

1) Tamim Iqbal
2) Mohammed Ashraful
3) Anamul Haque
4) Shakib Al Hasan
5) Mushfiqur Rahim
6) Nasir Hossain
7) Mahmudullah Riad
8) Ziaur Rahman
9) Mashrafe Bin Mortaza
10) Abdur Razzak
11) Abul Hasan

12th Man: Elias Sunny (Might miss out)

[TigerEz]

YO guys, ESPN3 or whatever that is, televise the Australia vs Ireland ODi....so any possibility of them televising the 3 T20s of Bangladesh vs Ireland???? PRAY PRAY PRAY

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
It will be difficult tour...we should have the same team from Zim.... At least they will be mentally alert/ready to adjust quickly.....new guys will use up too much time ...

somebody has to go since shakib will come back..i say give anamul a brake and let him play with the u19 to prepare for the under 19 WC

[Eshen]

IMO, it's pretty obvious who should make place for Shakib - Zia. As a bits and piece allrounder, don't think he adds much value even to the T20 team. If not him, then Reza.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by Eshen
IMO, it's pretty obvious who should make place for Shakib - Zia. As a bits and piece allrounder, don't think he adds much value even to the T20 team. If not him, then Reza.

It should be Reza, because with all his ugliness) he (Zia) is still much better than Reza. Reza sucks in all three department.

[Ajfar]

I was just looking through some of the BPL scorecard and looked like Abul took some serious beating on few of the games. I'm just wondering what is the basis of his inclusion?

[Saifulsohel]

Originally Posted by Ajfar
I was just looking through some of the BPL scorecard and looked like Abul took some serious beating on few of the games. I'm just wondering what is the basis of his inclusion?

on same basis as Shafiul/rubel plays.Ahead of nazmul altime.

[zinatf]

Tigers better get themselves used to the European conditions once they land there and this time please no initial HICCUPS!

[Kohli_Sox]

Over the years, unfortunately we start all series by losing one or two games; then turn around- sometimes it becomes too late, sometimes just at the nick of time, hoping we'll get straight into groove and start winning right from the word go but this might be difficult in Irish conditions

[simon]

isn't the Euro tour the only T20 tournament before the T20 cup?

in that case we shouldn't experiment, we need to stick to our best eleven.
Sakib & hopefuly TI will be back,Nazmul ,Phorhad should be given more chances.
it will be tricky to chose between nayok Raj Rajjak & E.Kanchon once Sakib Khan joins the team.
or better we keep all three spinners above as Anamul will be out anyway.

[playmaker]

Originally Posted by Ajfar
I was just looking through some of the BPL scorecard and looked like Abul took some serious beating on few of the games. I'm just wondering what is the basis of his inclusion?

Same here. Ive never seen him bowl well anywhere. Did he have good stats in DPL. BPL? I didnt see so. And we give him a chance? Why? Because he is a promising cricket?

What message is our cricket board giving to all the players in the country? That if you are young and show some hint of promise you will get to play match ahead of others who have much better stats than you? I saw him bowl in BPL and he was simply aweful..in 1 match he got few lucky wickets and thats that. Even in the triangular tournament I found it weird how a pacer was bowling continuous Short bowls to batsman who are good pullers.

gotta feel for nazmul. He is definitely better than shafiul, abul, al-amin, shahadat atm. He got us important break-through in the last 2 matches in the asia cup. Shakib might have got the AMMA award but if Nazmul didnt get the important breakthroughs we wudve been chasing something like 260-270 in 40 overs, something I srsly doubt our team can chase. Enuff said. And everytime we see this ordinary bowlers getting a chance in place of him everytime

[Gowza]

if we are looking for pacers i think al amin and babu would be good picks, both have done well with the ball over the last year.

[KaaL-PurusH]

Originally Posted by playmaker
Same here. Ive never seen him bowl well anywhere. Did he have good stats in DPL. BPL? I didnt see so. And we give him a chance? Why? Because he is a promising cricket?

What message is our cricket board giving to all the players in the country? That if you are young and show some hint of promise you will get to play match ahead of others who have much better stats than you? I saw him bowl in BPL and he was simply aweful..in 1 match he got few lucky wickets and thats that. Even in the triangular tournament I found it weird how a pacer was bowling continuous Short bowls to batsman who are good pullers.

gotta feel for nazmul. He is definitely better than shafiul, abul, al-amin, shahadat atm. He got us important break-through in the last 2 matches in the asia cup. Shakib might have got the AMMA award but if Nazmul didnt get the important breakthroughs we wudve been chasing something like 260-270 in 40 overs, something I srsly doubt our team can chase. Enuff said. And everytime we see this ordinary bowlers getting a chance in place of him everytime

Q: What is the selection criteria for pacers in BD??

Ans: Before team selection, our selectors invite all the potential pacer in the net and ask them to bowl to selectors. Whoever the selector find difficult to play in that net session they select him for national XI

[Max100]

Abul hasan was thrashed in under 19 level also. I wouldn't select him even for a team

[Max100]

Originally Posted by Gowza
if we are looking for pacers i think al amin and babu would be good picks, both have done well with the ball over the last year.

They are Not ready yet. I will say may be shubhashis roy

[Saifulsohel]

Team management say abul is quickest Bd bowler. Law also praised him as law & he was in same team in bpl.

[Saifulsohel]

Originally Posted by Max100
They are Not ready yet. I will say may be shubhashis roy

shuvashis roy is a mediocre pacer of 125-130 kmh

[al-Sagar]

time to conquer Belfast

[TigerEz]

our players going straight to Belfast or they coming home first?

[Kohli_Sox]

If I have to guess from what I had seen in TV, I would say Abul hits roughly 135 max. Mostly 132-134. One bowl may be 137-138 in an over

[Ian Pont]

Originally Posted by Saifulsohel
Team management say abul is quickest Bd bowler. Law also praised him as law & he was in same team in bpl.

I was surprised by that recommendation after the BPL. He played 5 matches and took just 3 wickets for 156 runs with an economy rate of 12 per over.

I really hope he develops into a great player. But playing in front of a proven bowler like Nazmul is very, very odd.

[CricketPagolChele]

I can't believe Bangladesh is the most hated cricket country outside Bangladesh. in every cricket match, whether Bangladesh plays or not, Bangladesh bashing contniues, even today zim beat south Africa and won the series, but Bangladesh basing were there. why ? can someone answer that? not a single Bangladesh win was not given due credit, instead they find fault in other lost team.

[banindfan]

SOURCE : CRICINFO


Why Ireland deserve Test status
Ireland have lost just three times in previous three years to non-Test playing nations © Getty Images
By Martin Jones, the UK

This is a question that has been floating around for several years: should Ireland be given Test status? There are no guaranteed parameters for Test status. South Africa's first Tests were not assigned as such until many years after they were played. Bangladesh gained Test status after only three ODI wins – two against sides that did not play Test cricket. The fact that they had lost 27 matches against Test nations before the last of those three wins did not matter, and nor apparently did the fact that they lost their next 45 completed matches until a solitary win by eight runs against Zimbabwe, 18 years on from their inaugural appearance.

Ireland have played 33 completed ODIs against Test-quality opposition so far, won five of them and tied one. At the same stage in their development, Zimbabwe had won two and tied one, so Ireland have outperformed the two most recently promoted teams.

In the last three years they have been defeated just three times in ODIs by their fellow Associates and Affiliates, and are well ahead of the chasing pack. In the longer form of the game, Ireland have been consistently bagging solid results, despite the fact that they often have to do without their stronger players who are on county duty. Clearly, the quality of the cricketers being produced by the emerald isle is not a problem.

The next argument against Ireland's elevation is lack of suitable stadia. Ireland currently host their home matches at Stormont in Belfast and Clontarf in Dublin. Both stadia boast a capacity of over 5,000 spectators for internationals, but the jewel in the crown is currently under construction in Malahide. The new stadium, fondly named 'The Village', is planned to have a capacity of over 10,000 and will be ready to host England as soon as September next year. Once The Village has been completed, Ireland will be able to spread their fixtures between three top quality venues.

Finally, and most significantly, Ireland has no domestic first-class structure in place. This is both easily remedied and easily overlooked. Ireland's chief executive, Warren Deutrom has outlined a plan to establish a provincial first-class structure, although the plans are currently embryonic. A quicker plan to implement might be to establish three Irish teams, and to invite the Dutch and Scottish A teams to bolster numbers. Ireland would then be able to implement a five-team domestic structure along the lines of the one in Zimbabwe. It should also be noted that Bangladesh received their Test status before their first-class competition was properly established. Only in the season following their first Test match, did the National Cricket League become a first-class competition.

All of these plans could be implemented as soon as next year, with the completion of the Malahide stadium. If the Irish team gets the dozen ODIs they want to play against Full Members, then they can build up to Test status, which could be granted in 2013 or 2014, and would reward the hard work and firm organisation shown by Cricket Ireland since they burst onto the scene in 2007.

And if they take time to find their feet, stick with them. Every team in history has struggled with the step up to Test cricket.

[Kohli_Sox]

If they can arrange National Cricket League every year, I don't see any problem having test status. Almost every test nation struggled at first to cope with Test, sooner or later everyone found their feet. With Test status, it will only help Irish to grow as cricketing nation. Plus many Irish players already are playing in County cricket.

[Sohel]

My XI for the Ireland tour will be:

1. Tamim
2. Mtin
3. Imrze or Bijy
4. Riyad
5. Shakib
6. Nasir
7. Mushfique
8. Gia/Phorhad
9. sMashrafe
10. Sunny
11. Nazmul

If new players are allowed to join Shakib for the tour, I'd go with Shouraubh in place of either Imrze/Bijy and Rumman in place of Gia/Phorhad.