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Old June 23, 2018, 08:32 AM
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Gezz people, this is getting out of control. So many post here have no actual facts to reflect on.

Holiday or not, if he is there and BCB granted the permission, that's the end of it. Maybe he went to visit family, wedding, recovering from niggles, etc. What is the big deal anyways? And how is Mushfiqur being dragged into this? From what I have read and seen, that lad is the hardest working guy in BD cricket team.
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Old June 23, 2018, 08:40 AM
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Nothing wrong with Shakib taking a break. (Knowjng him, be thankful it didn't come during a test series)

But a motivated leader would've taken a shortened vacation and return to training after such a disastrous tour. Then again.. Shakib isn't Kohli
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Old June 23, 2018, 08:45 AM
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Nothing wrong with Shakib taking a break. (Knowjng him, be thankful it didn't come during a test series)

But a motivated leader would've taken a shortened vacation and return to training after such a disastrous tour. Then again.. Shakib isn't Kohli
How many holidays and promo events does kholi take?

If Shakib did that everyone would go crazy
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Old June 23, 2018, 08:47 AM
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How many holidays and promo events does kholi take?

If Shakib did that everyone would go crazy
Shakib doesn't have multiple series winning knocks,a world cup and possible GOAT status under his belt.
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Old June 23, 2018, 08:50 AM
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How many holidays and promo events does kholi take?

If Shakib did that everyone would go crazy
You are joking right? If Shakib Is in national duty for 180 days a year, Kohli is probably on national duty for atleast 280 days (EXAMPLE) the number of games Kohli plays, if he wants to go on a vacation to Mars he should be granted

Kohli wants to utilize his down times by training in foreign conditions to prepare for upcoming tour where Shakib uses his down time go as far away from cricket as possible.. in this case United States!

Last time I checked, Kohli in his entire career never wanted a 2 series rest for no effing reason...
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I don't know why I feel Tiger1000 is a sponsored agent of Shakib Al Hasan.

Some of his constant defending of Shakib is hilarious.
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Old June 23, 2018, 10:28 AM
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Shakib gets a break for playing IPL.
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Old June 23, 2018, 10:28 AM
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I do not defend mushfik or shakib or anyone form BD team. If you see my posts you will see I criticize them all the time. but to make fake accusations just to get your key board worrier ego some satisfaction that I can not support
We're on the same page here bro

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Old June 23, 2018, 11:06 AM
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We have already reached our peak with this batch. Just enjoy the rest of whatever is left of this show, unless this coach has some sort of magic.
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Old June 23, 2018, 12:37 PM
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You are joking right? If Shakib Is in national duty for 180 days a year, Kohli is probably on national duty for atleast 280 days (EXAMPLE) the number of games Kohli plays, if he wants to go on a vacation to Mars he should be granted

Kohli wants to utilize his down times by training in foreign conditions to prepare for upcoming tour where Shakib uses his down time go as far away from cricket as possible.. in this case United States!

Last time I checked, Kohli in his entire career never wanted a 2 series rest for no effing reason...
True to be fair, but I reckon there were other reasons why Shakib didn't play test series vs South Africa

Also Kohli didn't play County like initially planned, so no he didn't spend longer preparing for England, he just took a break from afghan test
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Old June 23, 2018, 12:39 PM
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Shakib doesn't have multiple series winning knocks,a world cup and possible GOAT status under his belt.
Possible goat status?

In what, odis batsman perhaps, but I'll have Viv and Abd

World Cup, he was far from main player

Better team, so obviously he'll have more winning contributions
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Old June 23, 2018, 12:41 PM
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I don't know why I feel Tiger1000 is a sponsored agent of Shakib Al Hasan.

Some of his constant defending of Shakib is hilarious.
By pointing out facts?

Everyone loves to carry on being emotional and not use logic

My point stands and not one person here has been able to prove me wrong here, when that happens I'll happily admit I was wrong, until then let's not mix opinion and fact, opinion is up for debate, but my main point here is fact.

Fact is no one knows the current situation fully and everyone is jumping to conclusions.
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Old June 23, 2018, 12:44 PM
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Is Shakib still in J Heights?
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Old June 23, 2018, 12:59 PM
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By pointing out facts?

Everyone loves to carry on being emotional and not use logic

My point stands and not one person here has been able to prove me wrong here, when that happens I'll happily admit I was wrong, until then let's not mix opinion and fact, opinion is up for debate, but my main point here is fact.

Fact is no one knows the current situation fully and everyone is jumping to conclusions.
Tiger1000 bhai, you live in the UK. Is your real name Omar? Are you my Farukh bhai's son? Is your dad's name Ahmed Farukh? Is your mom Kaikashi apa? My dear Farukh bhaiya passed away in 2015. I am very sorry, if you are indeed Omar, chacchu, I am very sorry. Please do not be offended by all our comments here about Shakib al Hasan. Man, thinking about my dear late Farukh bhaiya, I am feeling very bad right now. I agree with you Tiger100 bhaiya, Shakib needs a break, what's wrong with it, we all take breaks.

Listen , my dear chacchu, I pray for your abba, every morning in Fazr prayer. Allah bless his soul, He was a very kind and good man. Your mom is also my boro apa, I have deep respect for your amma and abba. Unara amakey khub sneho korten, like a their little brother.

Listen man, I saw you when you were pre-teen in London, you and your little sister Anjum. Do you remember? Man I am feeling extremely down right now. I knew our big brother Farukh bhaiya from the 70's when he left Dhaka for Stockholm! We sued to look up to him, we were little, Farukh bhaiya had a rock n'roll band back in Dacca, back in Pakistan period. He was a great drummer.
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Old June 23, 2018, 01:04 PM
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Nothing wrong with Shakib taking a break. (Knowjng him, be thankful it didn't come during a test series)

But a motivated leader would've taken a shortened vacation and return to training after such a disastrous tour. Then again.. Shakib isn't Kohli
What did he do to "deserve a break" while the rest of the squad trained? His captaincy was woeful against Afghanistan, and even worse with the bat. Him with the bowl wasn't that great either, especially in a spinner friendly pitch.
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Old June 23, 2018, 01:11 PM
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What did he do to "deserve a break" while the rest of the squad trained? His captaincy was woeful against Afghanistan, and even worse with the bat. Him with the bowl wasn't that great either, especially in a spinner friendly pitch.
Is all of squad on camp though?

Pictures certainly did not show that

He doesn't deserve a break, but sometimes you need a break at your worst, maybe coaching staff agreed he needed little bit of time off, maybe it was there idea, nobody here knows, one thing for sure is no one can come to a conclusion on what we currently know and everyone here wants to jump to one.
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Old June 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
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Is all of squad on camp though?

Pictures certainly did not show that

He doesn't deserve a break, but sometimes you need a break at your worst, maybe coaching staff agreed he needed little bit of time off, maybe it was there idea, nobody here knows, one thing for sure is no one can come to a conclusion on what we currently know and everyone here wants to jump to one.
Yes, the whole WI tour squad is there and pictures do suggest that.

This is just blindly following someone. Shakib always had issues with management and unlike others, he hasn't solved his. Tamim took extra batting practice for the WI squad.
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Old June 23, 2018, 01:56 PM
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Yes, the whole WI tour squad is there and pictures do suggest that.

This is just blindly following someone. Shakib always had issues with management and unlike others, he hasn't solved his. Tamim took extra batting practice for the WI squad.
Pictures I've seen didn't, I should have added that to my initial post my mistake on that, mine wasn't a rhetorical question, it was a question I was asking hence the '?' and am not blindly following anyone, I've said I agree with those saying Shakib should be in the camp, all I've said and I've made this clear is we don't know if he went against coaching staff orders or if coaching staff thought it'll be best for him to have a break, we simply don't know.
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Some trying to make excuses for shakib is exactly what is wrong with our cricket , we are happy with his mediocrity and whatever ranking he has achieved , that whatever he does must be for a good reason when the guy has had well documented attitude and discipline problems in the past, problem is BD people put him in a pedestal and Shakib thinks he is already a great of the game which he is not
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Anyone think Shakib will play with the US when his Bangladesh career is over?
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Old June 23, 2018, 02:25 PM
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Anyone think Shakib will play with the US when his Bangladesh career is over?
New thread idea.

I like it!

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Old June 23, 2018, 02:54 PM
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Some trying to make excuses for shakib is exactly what is wrong with our cricket , we are happy with his mediocrity and whatever ranking he has achieved , that whatever he does must be for a good reason when the guy has had well documented attitude and discipline problems in the past, problem is BD people put him in a pedestal and Shakib thinks he is already a great of the game which he is not
whatever he does must be for good reason... That is exactly opposite of what am arguing

I've said before he should have been in camp, but we shouldn't be making conclusions.
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While I'm not a fan of some of his antics.

I'm pretty sure, this was organized well ahead of time and was approved back then as well.

His Tests performances (Aus, SL and Eng) have been off the chart, blame it on the board that we don't play more Tests.

Come at his neck if he doesn't perform
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Old June 23, 2018, 03:58 PM
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Old June 23, 2018, 04:44 PM
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Come at his neck if he doesn't perform
You mean like the recent Afghanistan series or the whole of 2017 in ODI's where he averaged 99 runs per wicket.
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