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Old January 9, 2017, 04:23 PM
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^ Hope he goes on to prove some people wrong. slowly coming back to form?

Would be amazing if he could score a century..
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Old January 9, 2017, 04:54 PM
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My initial thought was that mustafiz getting rest or playing one or two matches because of India test. By then he should be 100% fit and will get his readom back. Because with mustafiz I very much believe, Bangladesh will beat India in India. Mustafiz and Miraz combo will destroy India big time. Both players r god gifted. But now bs with mustafiz and sitting miraz, I'm feeling big politics issues here. Papon need to go bottom of it... because mustafiz and miraz type of fruits, gase dhore na. This type of fruits comes every 8 years on time , like sakib, tamim , musfiq came 8 years back... after that we got Zia, hom, Tanvir, Kaye's, farhad reza type of fruits, which r mixed by 50 cents chemical. If you eats right of way, fine,,,, but long runs wait... wasted money, wasted time. So be careful Bangladesh, what you wish for.
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Old January 9, 2017, 05:57 PM
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They should have brought Farhad Reza on this tour. A utility player is needed desperately
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Old January 9, 2017, 06:02 PM
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Papon confirmed there are some politics happening with Musta in the team. They don't want musta to play...

WTH...
Yes I seen that bangla news and it's on youtube as well.

We Bangladeshi good at politics.
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Old January 9, 2017, 06:36 PM
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Yes I seen that bangla news and it's on youtube as well.

We Bangladeshi good at politics.
Yeh too bad the Olympics doesn't have its own category for it.
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:18 PM
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We used to have grit, now it seems we have pompous gits.

It's really simple. You look back at those matches and wonder how this would fare in those matches. For example this match in 2007 where we beat the West Indies:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/twenty20...ch/287857.html

We chased 160+ in a bouncy pitch, foreign condition, first match in the world cup. Sure we lost some other matches after that in the super 8 stage, but boy the current team would dream of such a performance. Goes to show we may have regressed in some areas. Players like Tamim, Shakib and Mushfique haven't contributed in crucial matches for us, and if you think it is only outside home you will be mistaken.

For the last 2 years when our form was supposedly the best, the crucial matches were:

- Asia cup final
http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup...ch/966765.html
Tamim scored 13 off 17 (lost the match for us right there), Shakib 21 off 16 balls, Mushfique (4)

- Against India in T20 WC
We all know how Mushy celebrated.

- England Series Final
Only Mushfiqur Rahim stood out that match with a 60+. Shakib failed miserably in that match.

There is a pattern here, if you look back at all the crucial matches, it seems the so called superstars of Bangladesh cricket have failed miserably. Yet Shakib has earned 300+ crores of taka and probably does not need cricket anymore anyways and they just have not contributed, they are no longer the match winners a team needs, also they don't contribute as well as a senior should.

In the NZ series, Tamim has scored just 1 fifty, that too with a SR < 70 so he basically lost the match for us, Shakib has contributed with the bat and ball but no where match winning capabilities or the level he should be contributing (1 fifty in the first match only) and Mushy has played one match so can't compare him. I am not mentioning NZ series in details because it is unfair to just point out one series. If you take the law of average against good teams in challenging or away condition, it seems the superstars of cricket like Mushfique, Shakib and Tamim fail more often than others in the team without any match winning contributions.

I hope I am wrong, but it maybe time to consider other options than these 3 when it comes to T20s.
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Old January 9, 2017, 07:22 PM
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^ Furthermore,

Against India the player of the series was Mustafizur Rahman, a dubutant.
Against SA the player of the series was Soumya Sarkar, another fairly young career.
Against England Test Series, the player of the series was Miraz, another debutant.

Clearly a pattern. The debutants/non experienced players are having better career and more contribution in crucial wins for us. Even at home.
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Old January 9, 2017, 10:35 PM
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^ Furthermore,

Against India the player of the series was Mustafizur Rahman, a dubutant.
Against SA the player of the series was Soumya Sarkar, another fairly young career.
Against England Test Series, the player of the series was Miraz, another debutant.

Clearly a pattern. The debutants/non experienced players are having better career and more contribution in crucial wins for us. Even at home.
Probably due to the surprise factor they bring. The opponents didn't get much chance to study them.
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Old January 9, 2017, 11:18 PM
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It's really simple. You look back at those matches and wonder how this would fare in those matches. For example this match in 2007 where we beat the West Indies:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/twenty20...ch/287857.html

We chased 160+ in a bouncy pitch, foreign condition, first match in the world cup. Sure we lost some other matches after that in the super 8 stage, but boy the current team would dream of such a performance. Goes to show we may have regressed in some areas. Players like Tamim, Shakib and Mushfique haven't contributed in crucial matches for us, and if you think it is only outside home you will be mistaken.

For the last 2 years when our form was supposedly the best, the crucial matches were:

- Asia cup final
http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup...ch/966765.html
Tamim scored 13 off 17 (lost the match for us right there), Shakib 21 off 16 balls, Mushfique (4)

- Against India in T20 WC
We all know how Mushy celebrated.

- England Series Final
Only Mushfiqur Rahim stood out that match with a 60+. Shakib failed miserably in that match.

There is a pattern here, if you look back at all the crucial matches, it seems the so called superstars of Bangladesh cricket have failed miserably. Yet Shakib has earned 300+ crores of taka and probably does not need cricket anymore anyways and they just have not contributed, they are no longer the match winners a team needs, also they don't contribute as well as a senior should.

In the NZ series, Tamim has scored just 1 fifty, that too with a SR < 70 so he basically lost the match for us, Shakib has contributed with the bat and ball but no where match winning capabilities or the level he should be contributing (1 fifty in the first match only) and Mushy has played one match so can't compare him. I am not mentioning NZ series in details because it is unfair to just point out one series. If you take the law of average against good teams in challenging or away condition, it seems the superstars of cricket like Mushfique, Shakib and Tamim fail more often than others in the team without any match winning contributions.

I hope I am wrong, but it maybe time to consider other options than these 3 when it comes to T20s.

Totally agree with you. In a vital matches seniors were flop big time. Sakib always scored when match already went home. I will say, musfiq and Nasir played big roll here for us to win matches in the past.
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Old January 10, 2017, 11:50 AM
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Taskin is set to make his test debut, who else is probable in comprising our pace attack? Don't mind seeing Rubel, Roy and Kamrul also having a go, it would be good to see how they fare on these pacer friendly pitches NZ will dish out in the test series. I still want to see how Kamrul does on pitches suited for pace before making my judgement on him.
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So the coach is against this decision of debuting Taskin in the longer format of the game hinting that he 'doesn't want to destroy somebody's career.'

Most likely we'll be seeing 4 fast men of which 3 of them have played only 1 test combined
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Taskin is set to make his test debut, who else is probable in comprising our pace attack? Don't mind seeing Rubel, Roy and Kamrul also having a go, it would be good to see how they fare on these pacer friendly pitches NZ will dish out in the test series. I still want to see how Kamrul does on pitches suited for pace before making my judgement on him.
Taskin
Rubel
Roy
Miraz
Shakib

This should be the bowling attack. Or we will suck again...
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Old January 10, 2017, 06:38 PM
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Yeh it doesn't make sense to have both Rubel and Kamrul playing since both are old-ball specialist.

Really wanted to see Mossadek in the XI, but I wouldn't mind if they're saving him for Lanka series in case Sabbir or Soumya fail
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I missed the ODIs and the T20s, but judging by the results and odd selections, I didn't miss much.

Our ODI selections are usually good, but this time it was too batting-heavy in 1st ODI, and then Subashish, Tanbir Haydar, Nurul, etc started playing lol. A bunch of injuries or what it looks like - really weird selection?
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Old January 12, 2017, 07:05 AM
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Taskin
Rubel
Roy
Miraz
Shakib

This should be the bowling attack. Or we will suck again...
IDK why we get it but the team mngmnt does not,
we will rue the fact that rue-bail is not playing.
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What should be le strategy? Get 620 and then declare?
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Old January 13, 2017, 01:47 AM
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IDK why we get it but the team mngmnt does not,
we will rue the fact that rue-bail is not playing.
Exatctly!! It is so simple right
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Old January 15, 2017, 09:44 PM
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Kayes and Mushy unlikely. We got nothing to lose in the last test so might as well bring in Shanto and Nurul.

But they will go with SS in place of Kayes...
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Old January 15, 2017, 10:01 PM
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I just want this tour to be done with, the epic display of bolodness in our second innings took away all the joy and and satisfaction I felt watching them first innings.

Won't be surprised if they bend down and take another beating next test match
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Old January 16, 2017, 07:49 AM
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Nurul will be the replacement for mushy next match but he is nowhere near mushy with the bat.
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Old January 16, 2017, 08:09 AM
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Only issue with our bowling was Mehedi not performing well in first innings

Fact is after 1 and a half days of cricket pitch flattened out and didn't spin until day 5
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Dear BCB

Please fly in players or there will be no change to the loss streak!

1.Tamim
2.Imrul ( despite almost three ducks, he is better than Soumya )
3.Mominul
4.Mushy
5.Shakib
6.Nasir
7.Shabbir
8.Nurul
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To properly succeed in NZ conditions, we need to understand the weather conditions. When it is windy, which end you bowl from makes a big difference.One bowler who took full advantage of this was Daniel Vettori. Bangladesh did not completely understand the conditions, so that why NZ piled on so many runs and that's where BD lost the match. The pitch has something for both Batsmen and bowler, a truly sporting pitch.

This is a very tricky thing to master because the wind blows in different directions on different days. Captain and coach and think tank need to account for this just like in Dhaka you account for Dew factor when you win toss...
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Old January 19, 2017, 08:11 AM
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After seeing the injury list and team management sending players home, i want Bangladesh to forfeit the last match and come back home.
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Old January 19, 2017, 04:13 PM
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After seeing the injury list and team management sending players home, i want Bangladesh to forfeit the last match and come back home.
Kinda have to agree wrong inexperienced players debuting again such a mess with selection ..disaster awaiting
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