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Old January 22, 2007, 06:25 AM
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Rasel Must be there in the WC Squad. His swing is something that we badly need.
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I believe so too, but Russel gota bat a little bit, the way Tapash and Sharif are progressive. On top of it, look at the recent score of India 338 in 50 overs!! Do you think our slow medium pacers can do anything with them!!!
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I really don't think we have any option but to open with Shahriar Nafees and Mehrab jr. I don't think Tamim or Junaed is ready for the next level yet and it won't be wise to bring them up too quickly. Rajin's form is pathetic and Nazmus Sadat is injured. If we really need to replace Mehrab in the top order, it has to come from whoever we already have in the squad. I wouldn't sacrifice Bashar or Ash again in the top order. So who can we get? Maybe Tushar. He always bats at number 3 and is used to new ball. He is in good form. Maybe he can be our short term solution if Mehrab plan doesn't work out.
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Chaminda Vaas and Muralitharan is rested for India tour, the last preparation for Srilanka ahead of World Cup. I am a bit worried to see Zoysa back. He is a destructive bowler in fast wicket.

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Sri Lanka play India in four matches starting from February 8 at Poona and then at Rajkot (Feb 11), Margoa (Feb 14) and Visakhapatnam (Feb 17). This will be Sri Lanka's final engagement before the World Cup in the Caribbean.
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Mahela Jayawardene (capt), Kumar Sangakkara (vice-capt & wk), Sanath Jayasuriya, Upul Tharanga, Marvan Atappattu, Russel Arnold, Chamara Silva, Tillakaratne Dilshan, Farveez Maharoof, Upul Chandana, Malinga Bandara, Dilhara Fernando, Lasith Malinga, Nuwan Zoysa, Nuwan Kulasekera
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Any these matches official ODIs?
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Old January 23, 2007, 11:52 PM
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my take on the issues:
pilot:wc should be his last international outing.mushfiq is the obvious replacement,but for the world cup,mashud's experience will be handy in case our top order fails.
rasel:i dont see any difference between him,tapash,and sharif bowling wise.all three bowl around 70-75 mph with no real threat to quality batsmen.in wi,wickets will be flat and low.so all three will be smashed around the park.tapash and sharif have improved their batting significantly.but sharif's ability to swing old ball will add variation to the bowling attack.plus masri still seems uncomfortable bolwing in slog overs.sharif can be handy in this scenario.so,i will pick sharif.
opener:stay with mehrab jr.bd pinch hitters will get out in no time in front of quality fast bowling and create pressure on nafees.if mehrab can stay in the middle,it will provide stability in the top order.if on of the pinch hitters is chosen,then we will have three hard hitters in a row.tamim/junaed,aftab and ash.these three guys can get out in one over trying to hit six/four.in order to put some stability,i will choose mehrab as nafees' partner.
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Old January 25, 2007, 06:58 AM
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India is showing true color of its batting. In a slow and low pitch India was bundled out for 189, thans to valuable 67 run by Dinesh karthik. Powell should be watched carefully as he is getting better and better. He took 4/27 runs.

In reply, WI was equally miserable with bat and despite the fifty by Shivnariane Chanderpaul, they managed to score only 169. India finally won the match by 20 runs.

Now, batting woe from both side is a good sign for Bangladesh. Wicket may be the prime reason for the poor show.
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Old January 25, 2007, 10:20 PM
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wi wickets are low as well.this may give bd batsmen some comfort as they are used to play in low and slow wickets.
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my take on the issues:
pilot:wc should be his last international outing.mushfiq is the obvious replacement,but for the world cup,mashud's experience will be handy in case our top order fails.
rasel:i dont see any difference between him,tapash,and sharif bowling wise.all three bowl around 70-75 mph with no real threat to quality batsmen.in wi,wickets will be flat and low.so all three will be smashed around the park.tapash and sharif have improved their batting significantly.but sharif's ability to swing old ball will add variation to the bowling attack.plus masri still seems uncomfortable bolwing in slog overs.sharif can be handy in this scenario.so,i will pick sharif.
opener:stay with mehrab jr.bd pinch hitters will get out in no time in front of quality fast bowling and create pressure on nafees.if mehrab can stay in the middle,it will provide stability in the top order.if on of the pinch hitters is chosen,then we will have three hard hitters in a row.tamim/junaed,aftab and ash.these three guys can get out in one over trying to hit six/four.in order to put some stability,i will choose mehrab as nafees' partner.
sounds like an analysis done by a famous journalist who has 3 personal assistants going to the matches for him and providing him with reports. dont mean that as an insult man...but have you drawn your conclusions based on what you have watched, or heard?

tapash is much faster than both sharif and rasel, clocking over 80 pretty regularly. your speculation about sharif's ability with the old ball is correct. i agree that he may have the best chance to be included as the third pacer.

masri never was uncomfortable bowling the slog overs, none more so than any of our other bowlers. besides the taylor debacle, i dont remember him messing up too many times in the death. besides, if we want our strike bowler to grow, then we better let him bowl at the death. i'm glad some of you guys on this board aren't applying for coaching positions.

i felt the strongest about your decision to stick with mehrab jr. its okay if we let tamim have a couple of games (rest nafees during those games) in zimbabwe. but the selectors would be taking a backwards step by not sticking with mehrab in the world cup. maybe he'll have to give up his oneday job to tamim/junaed/sadat, or maybe not.....but not yet for sure.

mushfiq yes. pilot no. gilchrist can pull out a team from 68/6 to 300/9. mashud would best at 170/9. mushfiq isn't there yet, but he has the potential of atleast over 200.

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Old January 26, 2007, 01:35 PM
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sounds like an analysis done by a famous journalist who has 3 personal assistants going to the matches for him and providing him with reports. dont mean that as an insult man...but have you drawn your conclusions based on what you have watched, or heard?

tapash is much faster than both sharif and rasel, clocking over 80 pretty regularly. your speculation about sharif's ability with the old ball is correct. i agree that he may have the best chance to be included as the third pacer.

masri never was uncomfortable bowling the slog overs, none more so than any of our other bowlers. besides the taylor debacle, i dont remember him messing up too many times in the death. besides, if we want our strike bowler to grow, then we better let him bowl at the death. i'm glad some of you guys on this board aren't applying for coaching positions.

i felt the strongest about your decision to stick with mehrab jr. its okay if we let tamim have a couple of games (rest nafees during those games) in zimbabwe. but the selectors would be taking a backwards step by not sticking with mehrab in the world cup. maybe he'll have to give up his oneday job to tamim/junaed/sadat, or maybe not.....but not yet for sure.

mushfiq yes. pilot no. gilchrist can pull out a team from 68/6 to 300/9. mashud would best at 170/9. mushfiq isn't there yet, but he has the potential of atleast over 200.
interesting comments.i have seen all of these players playing for the national team.i personally did not feel any difference between tapash,rasel and sharif.rasel is probably the slowest of the three,but none of them bowls fast enough to trouble quality batsmen on regular basis.you are probably correct on tapash's pace as he obviously puts the most effort while bowling.i really dont know how fast each of these fellows bowls.but they do not excite me as pacers.that is why i put them in the same bracket.

now comes the issue of masri.leaving the taylor nightmare,he is usually not economical in his last spell.i cant give you the economy rates of his different spells,but if you follow bd games carefully, you will notice this as well.if bowling in the slog overs is sharif's speciality,then he should be brought to the side.dont get me wrong.i am not writing like others to kick players out of the team for one bad performance.but wc is not the place to practice to bowl in the slog.bd team should work with masri to make him more effective toward the end.my point is, get the specialists for the optimal performance now.groom and train players for the rest of the season.we are getting too excited with our bowlers after playing with teams like zim and scot.i think any of our premiere division teams can defeat these sides.i dont want to comment on your statement on being the coach.it does not worth a response.

i am not going to compare pilot/mushfiq with gili.you mentioned that pilot can help the team rech 170.dont forget that this is the general case of our team.every now and then, we score 220-235 range.but most of the time, when we are 5/6 wickets down before the team reaches 100/120,pilot pulls the team up to a respectable total.i have no doubt in mushfiq's ability and to me,he is a better batsman than pilot.but does he have the temperment to take the pressure of wc?historically, our selectors have thrown out new players from the team whenever they were under fire.ehsanul was dropped from the team after wc and he never returned to the side.i want mushfiq to stay and that is why i want to give him as much time as possible to become mentally tougher.that is why i went for pilot.regardless what happens in wc,he is going to leave the team.then mishfiq will come to the side and will have four years of experience before playing the next wc.i hope you will now understand why i made my initial comments.

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i dont want to comment on your statement on being the coach.it does not worth a response.
lol of course not. that wasn't so much a comment but an intended baash.

well, pretty much all our bowlers tend to be expensive at the death besides razzak. i hope sharif can bring about a change to that. that'd be nice.

i prefer rushing mushfiq into this wc squad solely because of that number....170. that wont get us a win. if we're gonna lose, there is not much difference between 120 and 170. so lets test out mushfiq in the zimbabwe tour, and see if he's capable of playing big innings at a fluent pace (like the one he played against sussex). if not, i'd rather let tushar keep in the wc squad, given that his keeping is up to par. maybe i just lost my faith in pilot, but i dont even see him scoring a 35 off 45 anymore.
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Old January 28, 2007, 06:21 AM
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India paid the price for becoming too confident. After losing so many matches, only two consecutive wins and they start experimenting!!! ridiculous.

Two masterful innings by Samuels and Lara ensured WI win the match by 3 wickets despite some late hiccups.

Final Score : India 268 (Uthappa 70, Sachin 60, Dravid 57). WI 270/7 (Samules 98, Lara 83).

Uthappa was explosive in his innings, he will be fighting for the opening slot in the world cup along with Ganguly and Gambhir.
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Default How you justify selectors' decision to include Sharif in place of Farhad?

I'm totally agreed with the statement of Faruk on Farhad's performance but not with the replacement issue. In my opinion, the performance of our bowling department is better than batting department. So, by replacing Sharif with Farhad, selectors made our batting more weak, didn't they?

I know that Sharif has improved his batting in the recent times but the question is will this improved batting from Sharif fulfill our demand of batting that we saw Farhad doing in the recent past series?

I think our selectors should justify this concern more closely.
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Im kinda surprised by all this Farhad and Mehrab Jr stuff. I never agreed with Farhads inclusion in the team, nor with Mehrab Jr's. Not too many ppl were against it. Now, with Tamims inclusion, hus done ALOT more to deserve it than either Mehrab or Farhad, theres alot of opposition. Why is that so? (And i mean that in a genuinely interested way)
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Old January 28, 2007, 11:42 AM
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Bermuda as part of their world cup preparation is currently playing World Cricket League. Yesterday, they registered a 55 run win against Uganda in a practice match. Bermuda won the toss and batted, making 247 all out in 44.1 overs. In reply Uganda was bundled out for 192 despite a brilliant innings from Hamza Almuzahim (86*).
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Im kinda surprised by all this Farhad and Mehrab Jr stuff. I never agreed with Farhads inclusion in the team, nor with Mehrab Jr's. Not too many ppl were against it. Now, with Tamims inclusion, hus done ALOT more to deserve it than either Mehrab or Farhad, theres alot of opposition. Why is that so? (And i mean that in a genuinely interested way)
Perhaps the selectors looked for the player with better technique. In that case, farhad and mehrab would be a more suitable choice over tamim. Or it could've been that either tamim might have been in bad form or mehrab and farhad were in good form along with tamim, but got a chance before him because they seemed to be a little more defensive with a better technique. Plus farhad and mehrab can both bowl unlike tamim.

But i also believe that tamim should have got a chance ahead of them and i didnt agree with the inclusion of mehrab let alone farhad. But this is a good time for tamim to come into the team..........he seems to be at his peak right now
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Bermuda is continuing its miserable run in their world cup preparation. After a poor caribbean tour they lost the opening match of the World Cricket League to Kenya by a huge margin of 10 wickets. They failed to put up any fight in the match.

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Bermuda 133 (39.3 ov) - DA Minors 52 (76)
Kenya 137/0 (18.1 ov) - MA Ouma 56* (51) and DO Obuya 75* (57)
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has bermuda won a single ODI or come close?

how did they qualify for the world cup...i woulda thought namibia were much stronger...and to think we actually lost once upon a time to these guys...oh how times change!
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Here's few words from Jayawardane, IMO, the best capatin of current cricket.

"Now we have a bowling attack that would suit any wicket anywhere in the world. We are in a better situation because our pace has improved. We have three guys who bowl more than 140 kph, some are going at 150 kph it is something new. We've got a world class left-armer (Chaminda Vaas) to open the bowling who hits the right areas more often than anybody. You back that up with Murali (Muttiah Muralitharan) and we have a lot of attacking options. It has actually improved our game a lot overall,"

Plain and simple, Sri Lanka has got the best bowling line up of this group. Our batsmen need to do something extraordinary to have any chance in the match against tem.
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[quote=Miraz;366475]Here's few words from Jayawardane, IMO, the best capatin of current cricket.

"Now we have a bowling attack that would suit any wicket anywhere in the world. We are in a better situation because our pace has improved. We have three guys who bowl more than 140 kph, some are going at 150 kph it is something new. We've got a world class left-armer (Chaminda Vaas) to open the bowling who hits the right areas more often than anybody. You back that up with Murali (Muttiah Muralitharan) and we have a lot of attacking options. It has actually improved our game a lot overall,"

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Here's few words from Jayawardane, IMO, the best capatin of current cricket.
Plain and simple, Sri Lanka has got the best bowling line up of this group. Our batsmen need to do something extraordinary to have any chance in the match against tem.
Miraz bhai: Upon agreed with your above statement, I believe our chances of odds to hunt down India ia way higher than SL. If we can, then by beating Burmuda we have a good chance to qualify 2nd round. Now, time to play wait and see game!
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Here's few words from Jayawardane, IMO, the best capatin of current cricket.

"Now we have a bowling attack that would suit any wicket anywhere in the world. We are in a better situation because our pace has improved. We have three guys who bowl more than 140 kph, some are going at 150 kph it is something new. We've got a world class left-armer (Chaminda Vaas) to open the bowling who hits the right areas more often than anybody. You back that up with Murali (Muttiah Muralitharan) and we have a lot of attacking options. It has actually improved our game a lot overall,"

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not impressed at all. are SL tough? of course, in fact, they are the team to beat in group B. but lets see how SL's bowlers do against indian batsman.

they have 3 guys that bowl 140 k, but maharoof is hot-cold, and fernando hasn't done anything lately. of course you can never count them out, but we aren't facing lee, mcgrath, pollock, or asif.

malinga is the only guy that scares me, but he could go for 60 runs in any given spell. vaas has lost much of his luster, and the last few times we've faced murali, he's been quite ordinary (2-40 is not exactly terrorism).

with all that being said, even if we beat india, i expect us to be soundly beaten by SL. but we are also capable of beating SL though they are a much better outfit than we are.
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I think you are right Al Furqan Bhai. I have seen that our batters now can handle Vaas and Murali pretty well. So, they should be very careful in decoding Malinga and Zoysa.

Another thing that our Bowlers should remember:

1. Get rid of Jayasuriya or Tharanga as early as possible.
2. Remember that Lanka tail is very good. They have Vaas, Maharoof, and some other allrounders who can turn the match even after a top order batting collapse. So be cautious. Dont celebrate until you win.

3.Remember Lankas hitting ability in the slog overs. You guys need to take extra ordinary preparation to tackle that.
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yeah sri lanka's probably the team to beat in group b. Their batting order is as good as their bowling order, but we must keep in mind that some of these players arent in their prime form. Jayawardene was absolutely shocking against new zealand. As some of their bowlers like fernando and maharoof.

i think that they have a fairly fragile batting order as long as we can knock out jayasuriya and that jerk tharanga. I HATE THAT GUY!

Anyways, we'll see how we go.
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I have a feeling we r going to be miserable in the WC.
BCB is trying too many players for the selection- since some of them performed recently in domestic cricket.

Come on, Playing in WC is a dream come true, so some might gave their best for it - but that doesn't mean BCB should send him in WORLD CUP.

Send the players, who have been performer for a long time - not recently.
Send the team that has been winning for a while.
No new faces pls.

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