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Old November 24, 2018, 12:41 AM
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Default Who gets the chop between Taijul, Nayeem and Miraz?

It's obvious that we won't be able play 3 front line spinners all the time... In fact 7 out of 10 times we will have to play a stronger seam attack. So who will get chopped? I think it will be very tough since each of them has a lot of positives working in their favor.

Taijul is our test specialist. He can bowl long spells and can be very accurate. He has shown decent against top opposition's as well.

Miraz is our next Shakib and may even be better then him in future in this format. He has been an amazing bowler form game 1 and now he is also improving his batting.

Nayeem looks like the kind of player that has the potential of being a superstar. Not showing any nerve with the bat and possible the biggest Turner we have seen in a while.

It's going to be tough dropping any one I reckon. Only thing I can think of is if Miraz and Naeem can consistently contribute with the bat then one of Mithun and Riyad becomes an easy drop because I don't think our team will ever play 6 full time bowlers... And rightfully so!
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Old November 24, 2018, 12:43 AM
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Miraz is poorman's shakib minus infinity
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Old November 24, 2018, 12:53 AM
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For NZ tour, the choice is obvious - Taijul. He is a home track specialist. There will not be any point to take another SLA if Shakib is fully fit. Miraz should be the first choice as the specialist spinner, Nayeem should be in the squad as his understudy.
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Old November 24, 2018, 12:56 AM
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Bk da thakley aloo'r chop niye ekta rochona likhto.
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Old November 24, 2018, 12:59 AM
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If its home series we can play all of them, considering the pitches we dish out.

Away non-SC series we can drop Taijul and one of either Miraz/Nayeem
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Old November 24, 2018, 01:16 AM
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Tough one. taijul is BDs 3rd highest test wicket taker, but he’s an SLA like shakib.

Miraz is working towards all rounder status but he has not been as good as his first series with the ball and atm his batting imo isn’t good enough to say use that as the reason to pick him over another spinner unless it’s rally close with the ball and Miraz is easily the better bag out of the two.

It’s nayeem’s first match and it’s a great match but it makes him probably the first on the cutting board.

Imo it comes down to who is the better bowler and who might offer the variety and turn

I haven’t seen any of the current match, interested to know who is getting the most turn out of the spinners playing?
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Old November 24, 2018, 02:36 AM
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Old November 24, 2018, 04:05 AM
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For NZ tour, the choice is obvious - Taijul. He is a home track specialist. There will not be any point to take another SLA if Shakib is fully fit. Miraz should be the first choice as the specialist spinner, Nayeem should be in the squad as his understudy.
Taijul did quite well in West Indies this year. South Africa put in a dead pitch that offers bounce at times to pacers against us and he really couldn't do anything there. For NZ tour, both Nayeem and Taijul should get dropped for Abu Jayed and Khaled as both Shakib and Miraz are allrounders.
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Old November 24, 2018, 05:36 AM
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Easy. Drop both taijul & nayeem for NZ tour and pick jayed & khaled as their replacement in XI. Miraz was phenomenal throughout the whole WI tour. Not sure if any other spinner from our side was this good in a away tour.
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Old November 24, 2018, 11:17 AM
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Where are the posters who want to bring back Razzak or give a chance to Mosharraf Hossain because he's killing it in the NCL.
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Taijul will most likely get the chop.

Shame though.

Best spinner out there, Imho
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I haven’t seen any of the current match, interested to know who is getting the most turn out of the spinners playing?
They showed a stat during the match which showed that Nayeem was getting the most average turn. 7.2 degrees and the second best was Taijul with 6.3 degrees.
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Old November 24, 2018, 11:59 AM
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Taijul is an automatic lock for any home series. He's earned it.

On non-subcon pitches, I'd drop Taijul and Mahma-dui-ton-walla for Miraz and Nayeem.
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Old November 24, 2018, 02:12 PM
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Miraz should get the chop. He is bowling way too flat nowadays. ODI cricket is hampering his test bowling. Nayeem has a way higher ceiling than Miraz.
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^ but, Miraz batting is better than both the other two. And it can get better if you shows more application and patience. Certainly could’ve had a ton against zimb if it wasn’t for mr duitonwala.


If you ask me. I’d drop Mahmudullah, play all 3 TJ, Nayeem, MHM. Dullah provides nothing with the ball, Miraz can fill Dullahs role and do better.
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Old November 24, 2018, 04:37 PM
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They showed a stat during the match which showed that Nayeem was getting the most average turn. 7.2 degrees and the second best was Taijul with 6.3 degrees.
Thanks for the stat. From what I had seen I thought this might’ve been the case, whenever I’ve seen Nayeem he’s always spun it quite a bit.
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Old November 24, 2018, 06:25 PM
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Maybe axe Riyad and keep all 3? I don't see why not. I like to reward good performances and punish bad performances. I am not one to see the pitch as being the sole reason for anything good or bad.
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Riyad should be chopped but he has to be replaced by a solid batsman. Our batting lineup is already very unstable. Playing 5 full time bowlers (2 seamers + 3 spinners) will make it even worse. Yea miraz and nayeem can bat but they are still gonna score 20-30 runs once in a while against a decent bowling attack
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Maybe axe Riyad and keep all 3? I don't see why not. I like to reward good performances and punish bad performances. I am not one to see the pitch as being the sole reason for anything good or bad.
With regards to this you are right in that pitch and conditions shouldn’t be an excuse, if you don’t do well on seaming pitches then you need to work on it, if you struggle against spin then do something about it, same for bowlers in different conditions. Players should strive to be the best they can be, that means always working on not only your weaknesses but your strengths as well.
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Mehidy got all the set batsmen out. He's 21 was a key factor in the England & Australia series. Bowled very well in the West Indies too.

Taijul on the hard to me is like our version Jadeja, unplayable on certain pitches but also not an automatic pick on other pitches.
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Mehidy got all the set batsmen out. He's 21 was a key factor in the England & Australia series. Bowled very well in the West Indies too.

Taijul on the hard to me is like our version Jadeja, unplayable on certain pitches but also not an automatic pick on other pitches.
You'd have to agree. Plus Taijul is a liability with the bat, this game notwithstanding. He averages 12, but thats inflated by a couple of knocks. Most of the time he's only good for 4-8 runs per innings.

If Nayeem can average 15+ with bat and continue to get turn on unhealthy surfaces, he's a definite starter. Kid has guts.

Mehidy should work on his batting a bit more and be a genuine all-rounder. First replace Riyad, and then in future be the next SHakib once he retires.
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You'd have to agree. Plus Taijul is a liability with the bat, this game notwithstanding. He averages 12, but thats inflated by a couple of knocks. Most of the time he's only good for 4-8 runs per innings.

If Nayeem can average 15+ with bat and continue to get turn on unhealthy surfaces, he's a definite starter. Kid has guts.

Mehidy should work on his batting a bit more and be a genuine all-rounder. First replace Riyad, and then in future be the next SHakib once he retires.
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Depending on the pitch condition, any one/two of the three or all can play -> If we play in India, I don't see why we can't play all three (as it's very unlikely that India would make a pacer-friendly pitch!!)

In English condition, Naeem could be useful ...so it depends where we play and what the pitch condition is...
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Old November 28, 2018, 12:55 AM
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Nayeem should be dropped but it depends, we don't have a good pace attack which can dominate in NZ adding to this we still don't have a legspinner who is very much fruitful in those conditions as they have variations.
Moreover, we already have an extra spinner (shakib), mirza should play along with him as he can bat too but no other spinner as those conditions of nz are not spin friendly particularly off spinners. We should go with atleast 3 pacers there.
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Old November 28, 2018, 04:38 AM
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Naeem still need to learn the straighter nd if possible 'DOOSRA' deliveries, it's long way to go for him.
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Old November 28, 2018, 06:34 AM
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Playing in Bangladesh on spinning wickets you need to stick with all 3.

Problem with our spinners from what I have been seeing for the past few years is that they cant adapt. One of their main issues is that they keep bowling loose hit me deliveries quite regularly especially Mehedy who at one stage in the final innings had to be told off for bowling short and on the offside to tail enders when the field was set up on the leg side.
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