2020 US Presidential Election Thread

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Demon Devi aka Crooked Kamala following the footstep of $Hillary about fundraising:

California fundraiser for Kamala Harris boasts big LA names

The evening event is billed as a "reception in support of Kamala Harris for the People," and Harris is expected to attend, according to an invitation obtained by The Associated Press. The reception will be held at the Pacific Palisades home of director J.J. Abrams and his wife, Katie McGrath. Tickets cost $2,800 per guest, with co-chairs donating $10,000, according to the invitation.

Any political candidate who does not have grassroot support essentially is a beggar - behind the scene, their main job 24/7 is begging for money.

Demon Devi is following this script now under the banner of (CROOKED) Kamala for people.

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CREEPY Uncle Joe SNOOZE Biden will announce his candidacy soon.

His team is floating the idea that of announcing his run along with a running mate - preferably Stacy Abrams. He is also floating with the idea of committing to one term presidency. Both are horrible ideas because

- Simply choosing a woman of color will not hide the horrible past of Biden, who has been on the wrong side of history about Iraq war, crime bill, bankruptcy bill, civil rights, Anita Hill hearing, NAFTA, TPP, bank deregulation, and almost every other issue.

- Choosing a woman of color to hide his own racism is a strategy straight from right wing/Republican book, who use similar props all the time

- Stacy Abrams is another Obama, who uses her African Americanism to push centrist and corporatist policies. She is in bed with predatory pay day lenders - and this one piece of information is enough to know everything about her.

- Committing to one tem will be another mistake - it will infer that Biden is not healthy enough to lead the nation for next eight years. If that is case, why run in the first place?

- Trump will have field day with the record of LOW IQ Biden, and in addition, he will present him as second coming of Obama

The biggest problem for Uncle Joe is his inability to answer what he stands FOR. He cannot answer convincingly WHY he wants to run. He wants to run because he thinks he can beat Donald Trump and bring civility to politics, none of which are convincing enough reason to run. Everyone is running to beat Trump. And politics is an uncivil game to being with.

With his horrible record, he will start his campaign on defense, and defense in politics means immediate suicide and failure, as Hillary proved.

Deep down, Uncle Joe knows he won't succeed, but the office of presidency is too much to not give an attempt.

Don't do it Uncle Joe, just don't do it.

But he will do it anyway, and it will be great fun to watch him gaffing his way to IMPLOSION.

Joe Biden's 2020 nightmare: He could be the Democratic reincarnation of Jeb Bush

Joe Biden Is Hillary Clinton 2.0 — Democrats Would Be Mad to Nominate Him

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In case you have missed it: this is something I think a person as crass as Trump won't be able to beat.

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
John Hickenlooper Reveals Why He Once Took His Mom To See An X-Rated Movie

The Democratic presidential hopeful admitted he was “humiliated” by the mother-son trip to watch “Deep Throat.”

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Gay candidate Pete Buttigieg refers to his partner as his husband. Does it mean Pete Buttigieg is the wife? Or is it both husband? (excuse my ignorance, just want to know).

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...idates-1233092

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That is tremendous, not fake tremendous like Trump:

Buttigieg speaks Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, Dari, and French, and after reading the novel “Naïve. Super” by Erlend Loe taught himself Norwegian so he could translate more of the author’s work—then attended a Norwegian church in nearby Chicago to stay in practice.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...you-think.html

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Originally Posted by ToBeFair
Gay candidate Pete Buttigieg refers to his partner as his husband. Does it mean Pete Buttigieg is the wife? Or is it both husband? (excuse my ignorance, just want to know).

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...idates-1233092

They are both husbands.

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BOSS Bernie drawing huge crowds in California. Good sign! DEMON Devi aka CROOKED Kamala and Beta O'Dork should take notice.

Bernie knows how to campaign and deliver stump speech:

“Want to hear some radical ideas?” he asked the crowd. “Are you prepared? I don’t want you fainting in shock.”

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/...ueller-report/

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/...ueller-report/

[Fazal]

The main stream media (mainly CNN and MSNBC), the radial Hollywood, and the Democratic Party (mainly Obama and Hilary supporters) gave another gift to trump team before 2020 election. Regardless how much you hate someone, you don't constantly accuse the president of the united states as Traitor without any proof to back it up. They opened their mouth too early, and now nothing to show for, nor do they have the decency to admit their error. The Hilary radial fans again proved that they are indeed sore loser, have no decency to admit their own shortcoming and move on, they always try to find scapegoat for their defeat.


Now it looks like they (old Obama Admin, Hillary fans in Federal Gov, with the help of some Republican Establishment) tried to set up a trap with false intel info (that they knew about that).





... and CNN? they proved again why they are indeed a disgrace to journalism. Its sad that I have to agree with Trump that CNN is indeed fake news.


btw It looked Russuia tried to influence the election.And according to Obama they knew it atleast one year ahead. But how come no body ask the following question?

- What the heck our intelligence was doing to prevent that? We spent lots of our tax payer's money in defense, intelligence and cyber security compared to Russia, why they couldn't prevent it? Was it due to incompetence of previous administration (i.e. Obama Admin) or they intentionally didn't stopped it?

The other question is why Russia become so hostile towards Hillary campaign? Is it co-incidence or it because returning the favor i.e. tit-for-tat? Reference: Under Hilary, the Secretary of State, we interfered with Russian election almost directly supporting opponent. Plus Hillary's background role in Ukraine crisis.


Its so sad to see that Democratic party under Obama and Hillary, became a fraud party. I hope the new generation of leadership (in Democratic party) clean their own house and changes that.









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^ Great post from Fazal.

There was no collusion with Russia by the Trump campaign. Hillary Clinton lost fair and square. The fact of the matter is, after forty years of push marketing of neo-liberal policies, the Democrats actually had nothing to offer and differ from the Republicans in terms of policy. And the loss of Hillary Clinton to a JOKER like Donald Trump exposed neo liberal bankruptcy of the democrats so spectacularly that the only option left for Obama, Clinton, and the democrats to coverup their shameless hypocrisy and backstabbing of American people was red scaring. It was their last gasp effort to protect the status quo - namely insurance companies, big pharma, military industrial complex, big banks and wall street.

But the collusion theory failed. Trump is a low IQ narcissist. He is a serial bungler. If he had colluded with Russia, he wouldn't be able to hide it. He is a man child. Also, if the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia, Mueller with a most aggressive prosecuting team in recent history would have found at least a few campaign operatives whom he could indict on collusion charges. He could not find one operative. All the indictments happened on charges other than collusion. There was no collusion!

Trump's policy so far also proves that he is no Kremlin puppet. He rescinded the nuclear treaty with Russia. He is trying regime change in Venezuela and Russia supports the government of Maduro. He increased US military presence in eastern Europe. He sent US navy in the Caspian sea. He is trying to stop an oil deal between Germany and Russia to prevent Germany from buying Russian oil. Trump bombed Syria and wants Assad out, and Russia supports Assad. And Trump above all increased sanctions on Russia. And yet the democrats and the main stream media screamed collusion for three years. Because they do not want to challenge the status quo, they are same as republicans, and therefore the only option to RESIST Trump was this phony red baiting.

If you want to talk about collusion, then know that collusion is the first order of business of US government. Clinton foundation is probably the biggest example of collusion. Coming up is Obama foundation. Obama's entire cabinet was picked by City bank and that was collusion. Obama charging millions of dollars as speaking fees is collusion. Corporations buying politicians is collusion. Gerrymandering is collusion. Voter suppression is collusion. Super PACs are collusion. Trump taking money from Israel and tearing up Iran deal is collusion. Trump opening eight businesses in Saudi Arabia and then supporting them on Yemen war or journalist killing and dismemberment is collusion.

But of course, no one is talking about real collusion. Instead, they are talking about Russian bots and memes showing Bernie in the guise Jesus and Hillary in the guise of Satan as collusion.

Even after the Mueller report, Democrats are still hanging onto this collusion theory. Corporate democrats have no other option. It will certainly benefit Trump in 2020, but corporate democrats want just that.

They do not want change. They are unable to look into the mirror. They are afraid of revolution. But America badly needs a revolution. If Bernie's 2020 fails, America is definitely DOOMED. Vacuous empty rhetoric like American exceptionalism will no longer save the empire.

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No surprise, but rather expected behavior from PERVERT Uncle Joe!

Former Nevada lawmaker accuses Biden of inappropriate kiss

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Bernie Sanders Says ‘No’ to Incrementalism, Highlighting Divide Among Democrats

This is the way to go! For too long, Democrats, because they are paid to lose, played the politics of placating republicans and corporations. Time has come to play the politics of fighting back.

#Character

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Kamala D. Harris, abbreviated form for Kamala Devi Demon Harris is running a traditional neo-liberal campaign like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. She is running on middle class tax breaks (Republican idea), and she is the senator from the bluest of blue states, and promoting pay hike for teachers, which also has some strings attached.

Cannot blame her: this is the maximum incremental change her donors will allow her.

Sell Your Soul to the Testocracy: Kamala Harris’s Faustian Teacher Raises

And look at another hypocrisy: she skips AIPAC convention to show her FAKE progressivism and be like Bernie, while simultaneously meets AIPAC leaders at her office and ensures she will continue her support of backstabbing Palestinians, should elected president.

Kamala Harris Meets AIPAC Representatives in Her Office After Forgoing Conference

Democrats better be aware of this DEMON Devi - a fox in sheep's skin.

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Tulsi Gabbard interview at TYT

A interview full of tough questions. No soft ball.

Highlights

1. Even though the main theme of her campaign has been anti-interventionism, unsurprisingly she came across as very hawkish when it comes to defeating radical Islamic terrorism. She made two mistakes about this topic (a) Ignorance about who Saudi funds: There is no doubt that Saudi Arabia funds radical Islamic terrorists in its neighboring countries for geo-political reasons, but the radical Islam they fund is not wahabi salfism as Tulsi claims. What they fund is an offshoot of Salafi Islam, namely the kharijism. This group in fact actually appeared during the time of Prophet (S), but became more mainstream during the caliphate of Ali (R). Anyway, I do not expect US politicians to be expert in Islamic history and theology, but ignorance in this regard is not helping them identifying this threat properly. Saudi Arabia in their own land NEVER tolerates any Kharijite at all, and immediately puts to death if they find one, but the monarchy happily funds this radicalism to dethrone any neighboring government they do not like or deem as threat to monarchy. (2) Tulsi disagreed with John Kerry that building societies full of opportunities and justice is a solution to radical Islamic terrorism. What she should have mentioned, or at least Cenk should have followed up, is that US government is complicit with Saudi Arabia in funding the neo-kharijites. It started with Ronald Reagan, who funded the Afgan Mujahadeens against the Soviets, and currently the rebel groups in Syria are also armed by US, because US want them to fight against Assad. Instead of blankly mentioning military option against terror, she should have specified that US needs to stop being an accomplice with Saudi in arming and funding these groups. She also needed to recognize that US foreign policy and drone strikes play a part in the process of radicalization and recruitment of radicals. She needed to point to these root causes, but she did not, because she is a hawk.

2. She refused to say that Narendra Modi was responsible for the Gujrat massacre. She opted to cop out saying the Supreme court of India has cleared Modi of this charge, and she is willing to go with the court ruling.

3. She has backtracked from Medicare for all - this is the biggest red flag. She says it has to be studied more to understand how to transit from the current system. WRONG. Medicare for all is the easiest to understand. Sick, get care, government pays, no insurance.

4. Regarding Israel Palestine issue, she again came across as hawkish. She did not criticize the right wing government of Israel.

Overall Conclusion: she is not a true progressive, she is another calculated politician, who is in the race probably to grab the VP spot should Bernie wins the nomination.

I was mistaken to think that she is a true progressive when she resigned from DNC in 2016 to support Bernie, but probably that was another calculated political move.

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Another political loser Stacy Abrams (even though it was stolen from her) mulling presidential run.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...s-2020-1243850

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The only reason the MSM reports Joe Biden's poll numbers as if he is a candidate for president when he hasn't even announced is because if they didn't they would've had to report several times now that Bernie Sanders leads in the polls among all active Democratic candidates.

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[Yankees]

Read up on Peter Buttigeig. The guy is very impressive. Rhodes scholar, veteran, speaks 8 languages, and became mayor of south bend at age 29. the fact that he's openly gay politician in conservative midwest might be the least impressive thing about him.

with that said, I dont have much idea on his policies or his platform. He speaks in very generic terms, and his whole selling point seems to be that he's a millenial and can understand the difficulties millenials face. that's just about all he's said.

also he seems a little naive when talking about his homosexuality. He talks like its no big deal, citing that he won re election by 80% after he came out. What he doesn't say is that incumbants have a huge advantage, especially in local elections. For all we know, he might have won by 95% if he stayed in the closet. He can downplay it all he wants, but come election season, its going to be a huge deal. Even progressive democrats will pause, and consider whether a gay guy can win it all, and maybe their votes are better served elsewhere.

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Professor Obama comes to defend his defeatist attitude of incrementalism

Obama Warns New House Dems That Liberal Policies Like the Green New Deal Are Very Expensive

Obama warns new House Dems: Think about how to pay for ‘big, bold ideas’

“He said we [as Democrats] shouldn’t be afraid of big, bold ideas — but also need to think in the nitty-gritty about how those big, bold ideas will work and how you pay for them,” a person summarizing the former president’s remarks told the Washington Post.

I am not sure if it is genuine naivety or feigned ignorance on part of Obama. No matter how hard Obama tries to define his presidency as a new era of progressive politics in US history, it simply was not. It was eight years of incrementalism. Incrementalism by nature is defeatist, and by default it is preservation of status quo. Since his true loyalty was to the corporations, the best Obama could offer was incremental change, and his rhetoric will not alter this reality. The result of this defeatist mindset was Donald J. Trump.

A law scholar like Obama, even though he is a graduate of blue dog democrats, surely understands this reality. He is not naïve. He definitely regrets his legacy and rues missing the opportunity of a transformative presidency. He regrets being another below average status quo president.

But he cannot admit the truth. He therefore, because he has no other option, keeps promoting incrementalism in the guise of pragmatism and practicality.

He genuinely fears Bernie Sanders because he knows very well that a Sanders presidency will be a transformative presidency and a presidency that will usher in the the second coming of progressive politics in US history after FDR.

The Reaganite era of presidency has continued for four decades and Trump is probably the last Reaganite president. Obama goes down as a Reaganite president too. He is fearful of a Bernie presidency dwarfing Obama legacy, but even if Bernie fails, a progressive will definitely rise in 2024 or 2028. The end of Regan era is near and the free world is ready for another FDR.

Hopefully 2020 will be that year.

#Bernie2020

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Originally Posted by Yankees
with that said, I dont have much idea on his policies or his platform. He speaks in very generic terms, and his whole selling point seems to be that he's a millenial and can understand the difficulties millenials face. that's just about all he's said.

By following US politics, if I have learned anything, it is the art of smooth and straight talking BS-ing. Pete B is the best in this regard among the straight talking BSer corp. He can create a poetic feeling when he talks. But to be fair, he has more substance compared to other centrists.

But people needs a fighter, a fighter-in-chief who will fight unapologetically against corporations, not a poet or an oratory genius.

Originally Posted by Yankees
also he seems a little naive when talking about his homosexuality. He talks like its no big deal, citing that he won re election by 80% after he came out. What he doesn't say is that incumbants have a huge advantage, especially in local elections. For all we know, he might have won by 95% if he stayed in the closet. He can downplay it all he wants, but come election season, its going to be a huge deal. Even progressive democrats will pause, and consider whether a gay guy can win it all, and maybe their votes are better served elsewhere.

This is true. US is still far away from electing a female or homosexual commander in chief. Majority still imagine their president as a family guy, good husband and father, and they want to see a first family with a first lady.

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Team Trump happily chomping on Creepy Uncle Joe

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/31/kel...x-news-sunday/

"First of all, this woman Lucy is very bold to come forward and I'd remind the audience that she shares Joe Biden's political party," Conway told Wallace. "He was there to help the Democratic Party of Nevada and her candidacy, so it's quite bold for her to go up against the highest levels of her own political party. But all of these post-MeToo allegations and insinuations really don't comport with Joe Biden's conduct over the years."

She added, "If anybody just types in 'Creepy Uncle Joe Videos' you come up with a treasure trove, far more evidentiary information and videos than we saw when Brett Kavanaugh's nomination was trying to be derailed and him as an individual and his family being destroyed by folks who had no evidence of what had allegedly 34 years earlier. And I think Joe Biden has a big problem here because he calls it affection and handshakes, his party calls it completely inappropriate."

Democrats in 2016 nominated a similarly damaged candidate, and later when Trump chewed on Hillary scandals day in and day out, they blamed Bernie for digging up Hillary's past during the primary (which Bernie didn't) and bruising her, as if Republicans do not have any opposition research team. With Beta O Dork and Crooked Kamala failing to gain traction, centrists do not have any front runner, and thus peddled (a fake) Biden mania so far. What a genius strategy to fight Trump - go with the candidate who needs damage control from the very beginning.

If anything, Biden has been the true poster boy of old white macho man. He is a liar and denying his obvious shameful behavior with women citing intention. Intention is meaningless - a person is judged by his apparent conduct and actions. And he is shedding crocodile tears for Anita Hill, saying he should have done better. No Joe, you are not repentant in your heart, you are simply regretting the political ramifications of your actions, and despite being on the wrong side of history about everything, you are showing an entitlement to presidency like Hillary. It is all about your ego and self aggrandizement.

Don't worry Joe. Your campaign is flaming out even before it started. And after you announce your are running, like Russia collusion, Biden mania will collapse even faster.

[Fazal]

So is Biden Gone before he even formally came to the stage?


Most of the democrats over played the issue during the kavanaugh's hearing, now Biden have to pay the price. The Democrat set the standard so high for their opponent, now some of their own team members will fail achieve that standard.



Now if the most vocal one's (with-in Democrats) fail to criticize Biden the way they did it to kavanaugh , they will all be labeled as Fraud and hypocrites.

[Yankees]

Apparently Beto out raised Bernie in his first 24 hours after announcing. I don't get it, why is he even relevant? What's he even done? First city council, then house of rep, then a failed senate bid against ted Cruz. How is he popular? How is he relevant? Hell, from the young white guy basket, Pete Buttgieg is a 1000x more interesting. Just boggles the mind.

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Originally Posted by Yankees
Apparently Beto out raised Bernie in his first 24 hours after announcing. I don't get it, why is he even relevant? What's he even done? First city council, then house of rep, then a failed senate bid against ted Cruz. How is he popular? How is he relevant? Hell, from the young white guy basket, Pete Buttgieg is a 1000x more interesting. Just boggles the mind.

Same here. A VAPID MORON zero achievement babbling fool like Beto getting so much traction and media attention literally feels cruel.

I hope he gets beaten so badly that his political career is forever destroyed, like Jeb Bush.

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Originally Posted by Fazal
So is Biden Gone before he even formally came to the stage?

Most of the democrats over played the issue during the kavanaugh's hearing, now Biden have to pay the price. The Democrat set the standard so high for their opponent, now some of their own team members will fail achieve that standard.

Now if the most vocal one's (with-in Democrats) fail to criticize Biden the way they did it to kavanaugh , they will all be labeled as Fraud and hypocrites.

Democrats may have overplayed during Kavanagh hearing but they were correct: a person who clearly perpetrated rape should not be allowed to sit on the highest court of the country. Period. For those who followed the hearing, and I did, it was very clear from how Kavanagh behaved that he was guilty. It was as clear as day.

But the hypocrisy is clear. The democrats who pushed out Al Franken from Senate based on one picture without even giving him a hearing and due process, are now trying their utmost to rehabilitate the image of Joe Biden using terms like 'affectionate mannerisms' and 'friendly grandpa'. Both CNN and MSNBC yesterday brazenly defended Biden. The most shameless defender of Biden was Mika Brzezinski, whom Trump had rightly labeled as "DUMB AS ROCK".

Mika Brzezinski Defends Joe Biden: He Was ‘Extremely Flirtatious in a Completely Safe Way’

As for Biden's behavior, there cannot be any debate whether it is acceptable or not. It was unacceptable. Even before the meToo era, if a male employee randomly smelled the hair and kissed the head of a junior female employee, I am sure it would be considered sexual harassment and a termination worthy offence. Ignorance or generational gap or expression of affection would not be acceptable excuse. A man seeking the highest office should be held to even more rigorous standards.

So in my personal opinion, Biden's conduct disqualifies him from running. Politically speaking, as I have read somewhere yesterday, he has become an object of ridicule. The moment you become an object of ridicule in politics is the moment your political career ends. Recall ridicules like Mr. 47% (Romney), LOW ENERGY Jeb, Lyin' Ted, and CROOKED Hillary? Think of how many monikers Trump can now play with everyday: CREEPY, PERVERT, Child Molester, hair sniffer, and so on and so forth.

Whatever incremental Obama change legacy Obama had, Trump has destroyed almost all of it, and the remainder is being destroyed by his TRASH HEAP CHILD MOLESTER vice president.

BTW, another woman accuses Biden of pervert behavior
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...uching-1246875

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Fundraising so far:

Pete Buttigieg: 7 million (this primary will bruising)
Demon Devi aka Crooked Kamala: 12 million

Bernie: not yet released, he had close to 1 million contributions, and assuming average contribution to be $27, he probably now has 25+ million

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In just 41 days…

* Almost 900,000 donations
* $20 average (wow!)
* 88% of money raised from donors who gave less than $200
* Majority younger than 39 years old.
* 0 fundraising events
* 99.6% raised online

You did that, @BernieSanders supporters. Amazing. Let’s keep it going!

— Tim Tagaris (@ttagaris) April 2, 2019

Previously, Kamala Harris reported $12 million in donations, and while her campaign didn’t specify the total number of donors, it’s interesting to note that while 99.6% of Sanders’ donations were raised online, online donations comprised only “half the total” for Harris (her average donation, $55, nearly tripled Sanders’). Beyond Harris, we know that Pete Buttigieg raised $7 million from 158,550 donors, for an average of $36.35.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...rst-quart.html