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Old December 23, 2017, 10:54 PM
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Default Your ODI XI against Sri Lanka

IMO, our team management need to break away from the combination Hathuru left us with, to counter his strategies against us. A major change is needed to our top order batting, as well opening bowlers - with players whose weakness may not be too easy for Hathuru to exploit.

Given the number of lefties in the Lanka batting order, I would open with Miraz and Rony (probably the best new ball swing bowler we currently have). Fizz or Mash should be the first change depending on the situation (I would prefer to follow Warner's strategy to bring in Fizz when the ball is softer). I am not expecting a lot from Shakib in this series as a bowler, since he is well known to the Lankans and since majority of their batsmen are lefties. Which makes it important to have Mosaddek as a backup spinner in the team (also since he is one of our best batsman against spin).

From the top order, I would leave out Soumya, Kayes, and LKD - all their weaknesses are well known to Hathuru. Bring in Anam and Shanto instead.

My line up would be-

Tamim
Anam
Shanto
Mushfiq
Shakib
Mosaddek
Sabbir/Riyad
Mash
Miraz
Rony
Fizz

Bench: LKD, Saifuddin, Rubel

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Old December 24, 2017, 01:38 AM
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I think too much stock is being put on Hathu knowing this or that. SL team might know everything, but will they be able to actually get the job done? In theory if we win 2 of the 3 games against them, we should be able to keep the cup (provided ZIM aren't the other team in the final).

Thats a decent lineup, but has serious downsides as follows:

1) tuk tuk openers...our average PP score will be 30-1 with those two opening. Both batters put a price on their wicket and tend to score big so that offsets some of the damage. But with those openers, 300 is the highest total we can post/chase.

2) lower order impotence. Musa is a top order accumaltor, only Sabbir, shak, and Mushy can accelerate at the death. Mash is basically a slogger, and Miraz lacks the power game. Rony can tonk some but is not a reliable batter.

3) bowling looks pretty strong. Really want to see Rony with the new ball. Can he really swing it?
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Old December 24, 2017, 01:51 AM
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^^ Anam has been much more aggressive of late, not only in BPL, in the last DPL as well (SR 90+). He scored his double in the last NCL match at SR 80, which also is a good indication. Think he is ready to take up the aggressive opener role.

As for the late order, I don't want to see Saifuddin included in expense of a specialist bowler, not against Lanka.
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Old December 24, 2017, 03:39 AM
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I actually dont mind seeing Shakib at 3. Its one of our weakest positions, and we havent found any solution till date.

So my team would then be:

Tamim
Kayes/Anamul/Sarkar
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Shabbir
Mosaddek/Nasir
Miraz
Mash
Rubel
Fizz

Saifuddin in place of one of one of the batsmen exposes the batting a little but, but gives us a lot of options with the ball. Plus a big hitter at the end.

In future though, Miraz at 7 and Saif at 8 gives us a huge edge, but both need to improve their batting.
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Old January 6, 2018, 12:06 PM
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I actually dont mind seeing Shakib at 3. Its one of our weakest positions, and we havent found any solution till date.

So my team would then be:

Tamim
Kayes/Anamul/Sarkar
Shakib
Mushfiq
Riyad
Shabbir
Mosaddek/Nasir
Miraz
Mash
Rubel
Fizz
Looks like Sujon is going with the team Jeesh proposed, without Soumya and Mosaddek as options.
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Old December 24, 2017, 04:16 AM
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^^ On Mirpur, I would not worry too much about Lankan pacers, and would give Shanto a try at #3.

I would worry more about the leggie and the chinaman (Sandakan) Hathuru planning to field against us (a la India in LOI). Thus would prefer to keep Shak at the middle order.
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Old December 24, 2017, 04:44 AM
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Tamim
Liton
Anamul
Mushfiqur
Shakib
Mahmudullah
Sabbir
Miraz
Mashrafe
Rubel
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Old December 24, 2017, 06:46 AM
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Lakmal will be a handful this series. He did wind up our guys in Colombo, in much better form now.
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Old December 24, 2017, 07:11 AM
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Tamim
Sarkar
Mominul if in squad?
Mushfiq
Shakib
Mahmadullah
Sabbir
Mehedi
Mashrafe
Rubel
Mustafizur
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Old December 24, 2017, 07:47 AM
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Tamim
Sarkar
Mominul if in squad?
Mushfiq
Shakib
Mahmadullah
Sabbir
Mehedi
Mashrafe
Rubel
Mustafizur
Sarkar, still manages to crawl into the potential XIs hopefully this series ends his international career for good, a pathetic ashrafulesque batsmen, that we don't need rather we take, Imrul who is a decent performer against low ranked sides Sarkar will struggle against Zimbabwe and SL.

its time we start choosing players based on merit and performance rather than potential and rapport with the coach/selectors. Hopefully guys like Souyma,Taskin,Sabbir are outsed in the near future, unless they start to perform, heck a bit of consistancy would be nice once in a while.
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Old December 25, 2017, 02:05 PM
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Sarkar, still manages to crawl into the potential XIs hopefully this series ends his international career for good, a pathetic ashrafulesque batsmen, that we don't need rather we take, Imrul who is a decent performer against low ranked sides Sarkar will struggle against Zimbabwe and SL.

its time we start choosing players based on merit and performance rather than potential and rapport with the coach/selectors. Hopefully guys like Souyma,Taskin,Sabbir are outsed in the near future, unless they start to perform, heck a bit of consistancy would be nice once in a while.
Sarkar has immense talent, he's shown his ability in the past, so has taskin, Sabbir is the only one who has disappointed consistently
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Old December 25, 2017, 05:55 PM
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Sarkar has immense talent, he's shown his ability in the past, so has taskin, Sabbir is the only one who has disappointed consistently
All 3 have huge amountts of talent but time is running out for Sabbir especially as he's been in the team awhile now and his consistency has declined if anything but given he's about 25/26 if he doesn't have as much time as the other two to develop and selectors may think it's worth investing in someone younger who might pay dividends ultimately for a longer period than Sabbir can.
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Old December 25, 2017, 07:58 PM
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Sarkar has immense talent, he's shown his ability in the past, so has taskin, Sabbir is the only one who has disappointed consistently
Talent alone won't win you matches.
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Old January 4, 2018, 10:37 AM
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Sarkar, still manages to crawl into the potential XIs hopefully this series ends his international career for good, a pathetic ashrafulesque batsmen, that we don't need rather we take, Imrul who is a decent performer against low ranked sides Sarkar will struggle against Zimbabwe and SL.

its time we start choosing players based on merit and performance rather than potential and rapport with the coach/selectors. Hopefully guys like Souyma,Taskin,Sabbir are outsed in the near future, unless they start to perform, heck a bit of consistancy would be nice once in a while.
Are you talking about Imrul's ODI performance? Let's draw a comparison:

...............Kayes (Age: 30).......|.......SS (Age: 24)..........
.............Inns....Avg.......S/R....|...Inns.....Avg.......S/R
Career.....70.....28.95....67.93...|....31.....34. 53.....96.60
2017........5......25.00....77.16...|....11.....24 .30.....89.01
vs SL........3......22.66....68.00...|....3......24.3 3....101.38
vs ZIM......12.....26.00....64.59...|....1......20.00 ....111.11
at Dhaka...30....34.03.....69.88...|...12.....45.80.. ..102.46

Merit-wise SS beats him any day. Performance-wise pretty similar, but at least SS doesn't waste balls even he is out early.

I don't deny that SS perhaps needs a break, only replacement I can think of is Anamul Haque Bijoy (based on his recent domestic performance). I don't like to see SS, such a supreme talent for LOI, go in waste. Personally, I would give him a last shot before laying him off to a long break, considering we're playing in home condition against 2 lower-tanked teams in a double RR league tournament.
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Old December 24, 2017, 08:09 AM
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Problem with having rony, fizz and mash as the only pacers is that they are all similar types of bowlers bowling a similar pace. Also have to work out if saifuddin offers a similar output with the ball then he'd be worth picking instead because of what he offers with the bat.

Happy for shanto to get a chance but for me the real tough selection is who gets picked out of Soumya, Sabbir, Liton, mosaddek. These young batsmen are all talented but none have really secured their spots.

Then you have to think whether it's time to bring anamul back or should the bats I just mentioned be given more of a leash and be given more opportunities.
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Old December 24, 2017, 10:33 AM
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Sarkar needs a break.

You wanna blood in new players in intl arena, you do it at home against weaker opponents.

Having said that my team would

Tamim -L
Anamul+ -L
Mushfiq
Mominul -L
Riyad
Shakib -L
Shabbir
Mash
Miraz
Fizz -L
Rubel

Bench: Imrul, Mosaddek, Saifuddin
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Old December 24, 2017, 11:38 AM
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^^ Momin can lose us a match with his fielding alone, he is being that horrible lately. As per Rinat, Momin had been skipping fielding practice during BPL. Halsall should make him practice fielding for a month before he is considered for anything.
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1. Tamim
2. Anamul(wk)
3. Mosaddek
4. Riyad
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiq
7. Sabbir (he belongs here, keep him here, late order 20+ runs are very very crucial)
8. Mash ( couple of sixes and economical bowling and solid captaincy is all i ask)
9. Miraz
10. Fizz
11. Rubel

12th man: Mohammad Saifuddin(swap him for Miraz if we need one less spinner and extra batsmen during slog overs)
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Old December 25, 2017, 05:15 PM
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Rifats is the best squad.
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Old December 25, 2017, 06:01 PM
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thanks . Mosaddek is wasted at #6 i think. he could do it but it is probably too much of him when his style of batting is to build an anchor an innings unlike Sabbir. I think Mosaddek deserves an extended run on the side(all formats except T20). we could and should probably draft in Ariful Haque for that.
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1. Tamim
2. Anamul(wk)
3. Mosaddek
4. Riyad
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiq
7. Sabbir (he belongs here, keep him here, late order 20+ runs are very very crucial)
8. Mash ( couple of sixes and economical bowling and solid captaincy is all i ask)
9. Miraz
10. Fizz
11. Rubel

12th man: Mohammad Saifuddin(swap him for Miraz if we need one less spinner and extra batsmen during slog overs)
revised lineup:


1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Mosaddek
4. Mushfiq
5. Shakib
6. Riyad
7. Mohammad Saifuddin
8. Mash
9. Mehedi
10. Fizz
11. Rubel
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Tamim
Imrul
Shakib
Mushy
Riyad
Mosaddek
Sabbir
Mash
Miraz
Rubel
Fizz
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Tamim
Imrul
Shakib
Mushy
Riyad
Mosaddek
Sabbir
Mash
Miraz
Rubel
Fizz
This is the auto choice I guess unless they want to experiment
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Naser and Mosaddek - not Riad

Now you have a good attack, batting and fielding unit.
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Old December 27, 2017, 01:18 PM
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Mosaddek is not a T20 player...but thats OK since t20 isnt even cricket.

Musa should bat at 3 or 4 in both formats. Maybe 5 in Tests since Momin and Muhsy should bat 3 and 4. I dont think we have ever had a batsman enter our team wih FC and list A avergaes of 65+ and 40+, which Musa has I think.
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