Match Thread: 3rd ODI - Bangladesh v West Indies, SBNS Dhaka, Dec 5 2012, (14:30 local | 08:30 GMT)

[boka]

Originally Posted by zsayeed
Bishocup bhai - 1, 2, 3 are really good ones - lots depend on that. 3 er jonno to amra swann key kandaiya disilam jodio chottogrammey. asha kori amader kantey hoibo na. Ai dew er modhdhey na BPL e M. Haque 53 korsilo. Shakib ball er seam khuija paitha silo na dhakai.

IN SBNCS in day night ODIs batting first we won 1 out of 12 games, and bowling first we won 4 out of 11 games in last 5 years. So bowl first is very important.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...am;view=ground
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...am;view=ground

Compared to that day matches have little impact on outcome: bat first won 6/11, bowl first: 7/12. (last 3 years, day matches at SBNCS )
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...am;view=ground
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...am;view=ground

And this one needs a little double checking on you guys' part. It appears Mushy has marshalled the team in 12 ODIs so far (?) and has won the toss 8 times. 67% probability we will win toss, and then 4/11 probability we will win = .67*.36 = 25% probability, mind you just based on toss and record. NO SKILL ACCOUNTED FOR (Zunaid bhai!). Just the cold cold hearted numbers. If we lose the toss, and Sammy makes us bat ta hoiley kintu khobor asey.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ss=1;type=team

4 is the best - chinta koira dekhsen biya hoiley bashar modhdhey ki obosta hoibo? Palan palan ekhono shomoi asey. Kanta rey biya korley sharadin rait kantey hoibo.


Lastly, and this again someone from metereology can help, the dew point for that night is 43 F and the temperature will be 67 F. Humidity of 45%. http://www.accuweather.com/en/bd/dha...st/28143?day=2
The rate of temperature drop is 1 F/hr with dew oint decreasing at .33 F per hr - it appears that the ground will cool slowly with zero cloud cover past 6 pm. And here is my best guess that dew will play a role but not significantly. That's all I could do.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/bd/dha.../28143?hour=41

And for ZUnaid Bhai: I know it can be finessed more, but someone else can if they wish. This is a start and always can be improved.

এযে অতিখাসা পোস্ট.....

[SS]

today Dhaka will become WI favorite ground unless otherwise our team totally give 200% and overcome all the problems (e.g. grounds, dew, D/N, crowd pressure etc.)

[MohammedC]

According to Channel-i. Bangladesh Team are practicing now at SBNCS

[MyRoom]

Guys!, weather issues?

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by SS
today Dhaka will become WI favorite ground unless otherwise our team totally give 200% and overcome all the problems (e.g. grounds, dew, D/N, crowd pressure etc.)

There will be some crowd pressure no doubt. All the tickets are sold.

[roman]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
According to Channel-i. Bangladesh Team are practicing now at SBNCS

That's a great decision. Practicing under flood light always help during D/N matches

[munshi33]

Its looks great pick but I would love to pick Zia instead of Rubel becouse SBNS is gona be low and the pacer wont get that much out of it, then why i wouldn't pick Zia couse I want the batting line more stronger with spin and pace zia is amiles way ahead of Rubel, Rubel is a good bowler but considering the match situation and the pitch Zia should be in the team incase we need him to bat in the lower order,so Mash Razz and Gazi will bowl 30 Overs and Mahmudullah, Nasir, Naeem and Zia will share the other 20 Overs,thats how we can be stronger in batting and bowlling as well, please correct me if I am wrong, thanks every one and the BEST Wishes for the Tigers

Originally Posted by MyRoom
Team for third ODI ideally the same as first 2 but because Abul has a strain this should be the team:

01.Tamim
02.Anamul
03.Naeem
04.Rahim
05.Nasir
06.Mominul
07.Mahmudullah
08.Mortaza
09.Gazi
10.Razzak
11.Rubel

I think its best to go with Rubel because he can bowl very good yorkers unlike Abul and some good bouncers. Plus he has a very good economical and ODI average with a decent strike rate with the ball.

[CricketPagolChele]

Originally Posted by zaved_h
Pilot and Rakibul shared their views on TV. A few things they pointed out:

1. The Dhaka pitch may not have been prepared as 'spin friendly' as planned, which is not good.
2. Whoever wins the toss should bat first. As a day nighter, no juice is expected from pitch and the team bowling second may face problems due to the dew factor.
3. There were no contest in the First two games, but the Dhaka games are expected to be opposite.
4. WI might have ignored the recent ODI success of BD due to the Test series win and they being the T20 chmps. Fair chance that they have understood their mistake of underestimating the BD team.

I want an expert opinion about 2nd point. If the 2nd point is true, does it really matter who bat or bowl first? Or am I missing something?

[TamimFan]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
According to Channel-i. Bangladesh Team are practicing now at SBNCS

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[MyRoom]

Breaking News everyone, its been confirmed that the person who will replacing Abul Hasan is Rubel Hossain according to the tiger boss.

[Naimul_Hd]

Originally Posted by zaved_h
Pilot and Rakibul shared their views on TV. A few things they pointed out:

2. Whoever wins the toss should bat first. As a day nighter, no juice is expected from pitch and the team bowling second may face problems due to the dew factor.

Contradictory statement.

Due to dew factor at night, the team who wins the toss should bowl first (bat last) so that spinners can extract some spin and bounce from the pitch during day time. Otherwise, the spinners will suffer to grip the ball during night time.

[Shaan]

Originally Posted by MyRoom
Breaking News everyone, its been confirmed that the person who will replacing Abul Hasan is Rubel Hossain according to the tiger boss.

good decision, thanks for sharing the news.

[Roni_uk]

Far too much expectation. Reminds me of BD v Ind world cup matches!!!

Too much pressure - I hope we don't fall flat on the ground just like the WC 58/all.

My prediction is that we will lose this match and we will lose quite badly (biggest margin/lowest score etc type of result). Gayle will score 100 in the fastest time ever and Bravo will hit 200. Final score touching 400 if they are batting first.

If we are batting first, then may Allah bless us all.

I am scared

(anti jinx campaign)

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by WorldCup11
We also need to give players of both teams some ranking

For example Shakib +5
Gazi +4 (considering he'll learn dusra ,tisra from saqlain)
Tamim +3
Junaid 0
Ashraful -2
SN -3

Razzak (+3 for spin friendly pitch, -2 for unfriendly pitch)

If you want to find out expected result/outcome than yes SVM is my guess too, but if you want to choose players based on opponents, ground, month of the year, recent performance etc, I would suggest Rule based learning C4.5 (decision tree).

May be something our selectors and team management can consider.

Any book named "An idiot's guide to statistical analysis?"

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
I foresee changes in the WI side and approach for this game. I think Permaul will come in for Narine and Powell will replace Simmons (who seems to suffer from chronic brain fart syndrome like Nafees)
Not sure how Gayle will play though... so far the tentative approach has not worked for him so he might go all out from first ball this time.

Whatever happens the pressure is fully on West Indies. They are the recent world-cup winning higher ranked side with power hitters. We simply have to keep doing the same thing we have been doing which is to bowl good line and length and not give them freebies. If we do that and still WI make 270-280, we do have the batting talent to chase it down. We have handled WI bowling in ODIs very well. Rampaul has been the only threat so far and we can neutralize him if we are careful against the short pitched delivery.

That has not worked against Shohag either. But, he will likely have at least one century at SBNS. It would be great if we can win that match.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Rabz
Win toss, bowl first.
Due factor later at night will play a huge part, specially for our spinners.

For their bowlers as well.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by roman
Jamat called for this hartal Mo bhai. I hate when the political parties call for hartal. But that's another topic..

Unfortunately, there are Rajakars in every party, including AL. Some with muktijoddha certificate.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Far too much expectation. Reminds me of BD v Ind world cup matches!!!

Too much pressure - I hope we don't fall flat on the ground just like the WC 58/all.

My prediction is that we will lose this match and we will lose quite badly (biggest margin/lowest score etc type of result). Gayle will score 100 in the fastest time ever and Bravo will hit 200. Final score touching 400 if they are batting first.

If we are batting first, then may Allah bless us all.

I am scared

(anti jinx campaign)

It will be Gayle 333* and Bravo 150, with WI scoring 650/4. Shohag Gazi's line will be 10-3-260-0 (8 wide balls and 42 sixes).

[cricketboy]

Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Far too much expectation. Reminds me of BD v Ind world cup matches!!!

Too much pressure - I hope we don't fall flat on the ground just like the WC 58/all.

My prediction is that we will lose this match and we will lose quite badly (biggest margin/lowest score etc type of result). Gayle will score 100 in the fastest time ever and Bravo will hit 200. Final score touching 400 if they are batting first.

If we are batting first, then may Allah bless us all.

I am scared

(anti jinx campaign)

I also think we will lose this 1 but come back and win the 4th or/and 5th.

[Maysun]

Originally Posted by Fazal
Wounded animal is very dangerous. You need to kill it at first chance.

So 3rd ODI is our last chance to win the series.

You Sir, haven't followed Dilscoop's MLC. There is nothing like that. ATMR bhai will attest to that!

[mali007]

I hate D/N match in BD . It will start at 3:30 am our local time .

[zsayeed]

Originally Posted by shuziburo
For their bowlers as well.

yes, but they are more pace heavy bowling side and someone here said SBNCS will not be as spin friendly.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by mali007
I hate D/N match in BD . It will start at 3:30 am our local time .

Well, see it this way - wake up at 3:30 am, have a hot cup of tea after breakfast, take a lep and balish and enjoy the series win!

[Saifulsohel]

Dew may become a big factor inupcoming daynight matches of series specially for BD spinners.Mushfi ­q observed significant amount of dew tonight.

[mufi_02]

Originally Posted by mali007
I hate D/N match in BD . It will start at 3:30 am our local time .

I think its fun. I will go to bed at 10. wake up at 330. watch 1st innings that ends at 7. go to work at 730 and reach at 815. watch 2nd innings from work until 11. do some work and spend the rest of the day either celebrating or arguing at BC