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View Poll Results: Who is the Worst World Leader?
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George W. Bush (U.S.A)
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Tony Blair (U.K)
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Vladimir Putin (Russia)
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Junichiro Koizumi (Japan)
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Jacques Chirac (France)
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran)
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Pervez Musharraf (Pakistan)
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Manmohan Singh (India)
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Kim Jong-il (North Korea)
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Fidel Castro (Cuba)
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John Howard (Australia)
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Khaleda Zia (Bangladesh)!!!
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August 22, 2006, 04:20 PM
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Where are the list of african leaders?
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August 22, 2006, 08:56 PM
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I think you misunderstood Hatebreed. Yes France and Germany did go against the war but the not the actual people who could have made some difference. That is the American public.
We have seen from Vietnam war era protest that public voice can have enormous effect. Let us not forget that its the aim of any president may he be an angel or a demon to get elected for second term. Unless you are like Gandhi and refuse office when the top job is offered to you. Bush would overturn any lobby group banging his oval office for a second term, including Israel's lobby, war-mongering oil companies that want oil rich countries invaded.
In my earlier post I mentioned that none is the worse criminal than US public. They are the one who elect Bush for president. And not to mention Bush's brother is the governer general of Florida. I dunno how it works in US but I am pretty sure, its the population of florida that put him there. Thus the Bush clan goes on.
Personally I wouldnt be surprised if Jeb Bush becomes the president withing next couple of elections later.
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dude america is run by masonists and they put people in both demo and repo party, so whomever you vote its the masonists who run the country, and by the way who are americans to us??? our chacha or mama? if we do not after ourselves who and why would anyone us would look after us? and most of all if we need to ask help from anyone it is from ALLAH TA-ALA RAHMANUR-RAHEEM,not any people ...
EDIT : that does not mean cut off relationship with all the people, it always helps to have healthy and friendly relationship with people around the world.
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August 22, 2006, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mhferdaus
dude america is run by masonists and they put people in both demo and repo party, so whomever you vote its the masonists who run the country, and by the way who are americans to us??? our chacha or mama? if we do not after ourselves who and why would anyone us would look after us? and most of all if we need to ask help from anyone it is from ALLAH TA-ALA RAHMANUR-RAHEEM,not any people ...
EDIT : that does not mean cut off relationship with all the people, it always helps to have healthy and friendly relationship with people around the world.
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America may not be our chacha or mama but they give us the precious aid we needed to run the country. Afterall, how many people like you and me pay tax? Money doesnt grow on tree.
Yes we need to ask help from Allah, but you have to do the hard work yourself. Allah wont substitute 500 taka cash for every rain drops during monsoon so stop looking at the heaven assuming everything will be fixed on its own. Thats how it is and thats how it has always been.
Lastly, your post is totally irrelevant response to what I wrote above. So dont know what you are rambling about.
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August 22, 2006, 09:54 PM
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I don't know why mr Hirtler bhai is saying its american's public fault? but one thing for sure bush won by 49-51 vote so 49% at least shouldn't be considered as putting him to the office. and I am sure on that 51%, 30-35% voted to stop gay marraige and other stuff that was played just before election. its not that plane simple you can genralize like that.
Oh One thing for sure if all the muslim countries was following right thing then we wouldn't even had saddam hossain or any king cause muslims were not suppose to lead by any king, so who's fault is that?
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And was there a 49-51 percent vote when he won against kerry? And mind you thats after most of the damage Bush did his first term in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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August 23, 2006, 01:34 AM
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Bush is the worst because he has the best powers,with power there comes responsibility,and Bush totally failed in this regard.
If you look at Asian level,it's King Saud,he sold ME to the USA,and in SA its Musharraf.He destroyed Democracy in Pak
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August 23, 2006, 08:11 AM
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And was there a 49-51 percent vote when he won against kerry? And mind you thats after most of the damage Bush did his first term in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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yeah that was also close but my point is there r lot of people hate him and feel sorry that he became president but u have understand the politics here, people voted him cause they thought he will stop gay marraige and etc etc they don't care much about war and stuff
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August 23, 2006, 09:03 AM
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yeah that was also close but my point is there r lot of people hate him and feel sorry that he became president but u have understand the politics here, people voted him cause they thought he will stop gay marraige and etc etc they don't care much about war and stuff
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Thats precisely my point and if you have read my whole post rather than a tiny section of it, I was implying this all along. American public dont give 2 hoots in what happening in the world.
They would rather have a president who would address their domestic issue even if the same president bombs Hanoi, Baghdad, Kabul and what not.
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August 23, 2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by adolf_hitler
Thats precisely my point and if you have read my whole post rather than a tiny section of it, I was implying this all along. American public dont give 2 hoots in what happening in the world.
They would rather have a president who would address their domestic issue even if the same president bombs Hanoi, Baghdad, Kabul and what not.
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I read your post and what if you have read mine u would understand...
again I mean those 30% from 51% doesn't care about wars and other 21% from that 51 cares more about gay and religion.
the other 49% tried to stop him
so don't gerneralize that's all
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August 23, 2006, 10:56 AM
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America may not be our chacha or mama but they give us the precious aid we needed to run the country. Afterall, how many people like you and me pay tax? Money doesnt grow on tree.
Yes we need to ask help from Allah, but you have to do the hard work yourself. Allah wont substitute 500 taka cash for every rain drops during monsoon so stop looking at the heaven assuming everything will be fixed on its own. Thats how it is and thats how it has always been.
Lastly, your post is totally irrelevant response to what I wrote above. So dont know what you are rambling about.
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once again your perception that we need american aid to run the country is totally garbage, yes we need those aids to make the pockets of elected politicians heavy and give them cars and houses but all in all no good ... you saw what Moin Khan said about those loans, they are to make our hand cuffed. And what I tried to say was that if you need help to ask from anyone it best be ALMIGHTY ALLAH TA-ALA, and of course you have to try to better condition yourself otherwise no help, and not try to seek help from pagans who try to hide their face inside the people of the book.
If you look at our country's history Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Ziaur Rahman both ran the country efficiently without much aid ( any aid for that matter ), so you got to change the perception of "we are helpless without them".
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August 23, 2006, 10:58 AM
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Bush is the worst because he has the best powers,with power there comes responsibility,and Bush totally failed in this regard.
If you look at Asian level,it's King Saud,he sold ME to the USA,and in SA its Musharraf.He destroyed Democracy in Pak
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bush is only a puppet, cheney holds way more power than him, but even cheney is not the real master ...
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August 23, 2006, 12:00 PM
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Mugabe anyone?
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Heh, I was hoping someone would mention that.
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August 23, 2006, 10:01 PM
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once again your perception that we need american aid to run the country is totally garbage, yes we need those aids to make the pockets of elected politicians heavy and give them cars and houses but all in all no good ... you saw what Moin Khan said about those loans, they are to make our hand cuffed. And what I tried to say was that if you need help to ask from anyone it best be ALMIGHTY ALLAH TA-ALA, and of course you have to try to better condition yourself otherwise no help, and not try to seek help from pagans who try to hide their face inside the people of the book.
If you look at our country's history Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Ziaur Rahman both ran the country efficiently without much aid ( any aid for that matter ), so you got to change the perception of "we are helpless without them".
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Actually your preception that our country runs effectively without aid is the bigger garbage.
Yes, a lot of the aid money drops along the way into politicians pockets but much of it eventually goes into where its needed....roads, bridges, healthcare. Once again how many people pay taxes in our country? I am talking about income tax. VAT is not enough to run a country of 144 million.
I dont know how Mujib or Zia ran the country. Then again those two leaders are dead so no point taking about their success.
I was born in Ershads era and grew up through Khaleda-Hasina-Khaleda time. During all my life its was aid from other countries that provided the much needed foreign cash for BD.
Ok, lets assume you are right for one second. It is possible to run the country without aid, but we can only do so if we cut the corruption, which you should know by know will never happen. Since Mujib or Zia's time, corruption has spread tenfolds. Take the foreign aid away and we will end up like north korea.
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August 24, 2006, 04:40 AM
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Actually your preception that our country runs effectively without aid is the bigger garbage.
Yes, a lot of the aid money drops along the way into politicians pockets but much of it eventually goes into where its needed....roads, bridges, healthcare. Once again how many people pay taxes in our country? I am talking about income tax. VAT is not enough to run a country of 144 million.
I dont know how Mujib or Zia ran the country. Then again those two leaders are dead so no point taking about their success.
I was born in Ershads era and grew up through Khaleda-Hasina-Khaleda time. During all my life its was aid from other countries that provided the much needed foreign cash for BD.
Ok, lets assume you are right for one second. It is possible to run the country without aid, but we can only do so if we cut the corruption, which you should know by know will never happen. Since Mujib or Zia's time, corruption has spread tenfolds. Take the foreign aid away and we will end up like north korea.
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Dear Mr Hitlar,
just to remind you at present aid consititute less than 10% ( I think it is 3%, but i m not sure ) of development budget. During ershad era it was more than 90%. so ferdous is right, we need aid just to make pockey heavy for the politicians. Govt. contribute roughly 70% of development budget, the rest come from loan ie paid by our future generation. On the other note, USA is not even the largest loan provider let alone aid. I think for the last 10-15 yrs japan is biggest aid and loan provider while S korea and Taiwan are the largest investor. So it was easy for government to refuse army in Iraq considering public opinion. But if it was Japan or Korea it would have been tough.
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I think at first we needed a list of the countries whose leaders names are to be part of the poll. Countries whose foreign policy or leadership made the most noise in world policy are to be listed. The list would comprise of the traditional heavy weight countries, countries which are often in the news due to political or military reasons, and other minnows who are for one reason or another (typically due to there current leadership) in the news. For the last group say for example, we would have had Serbia, Burma in the 90s, and can have Venezuela, Bolivia now. For the middle list we can have Iran and Israel. For the first list we can have the big 5 from the UN, Japan, Germany etc.
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August 28, 2006, 05:25 AM
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You are all wrong Mugabe is the worst Leader ever..its better to be a puppet to Bush or to kill people in concentration camps than to starve them to death...most of them intellects, but they cant afford a decent.....lemmie end here
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August 28, 2006, 11:32 PM
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You are all wrong Mugabe is the worst Leader ever..its better to be a puppet to Bush or to kill people in concentration camps than to starve them to death...most of them intellects, but they cant afford a decent.....lemmie end here
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Mugabe maybe the worst leader but not the worst WORLD leader, which is precisely what this thread is about. There are tonnes of dictator and warlords in ethiopia, somalia killing and ravaging the land.
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August 29, 2006, 05:39 AM
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You are all wrong Mugabe is the worst Leader ever..its better to be a puppet to Bush or to kill people in concentration camps than to starve them to death...most of them intellects, but they cant afford a decent.....lemmie end here
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BTW, Mugabe doesnt even qualify for the worst leader in Africa, let alone in the whole world. Idi Amin of Uganda and Farah Adid of Somalia beats him any day.
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August 29, 2006, 08:07 AM
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If thats what Robert Mugabe quoted, then I wonder how Mugabe can be classified as the worst leader of Zimbabwe atleast???
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August 30, 2006, 01:05 AM
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I heard somewhere that Koizumi is a rapist, some Japanese women reported against him, but not sure if it was recently or in his joubonkaal .
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August 31, 2006, 10:40 PM
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I doubt any political leader from the most corrupted country in the world could be listed alongside other world leaders, regardless of whatever the list is about. Therefore, Khaleda/Hasina shouldn't even be in the poll... or on a second thought, they should get all the votes.
Well, it is hard indeed to look beyond that first option.
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September 1, 2006, 10:32 PM
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True. Nothing beats ongoing Bush dynasty.
I will shoot myself if Jeb Bush becomes the president near future. Two Bushes within one decade is bad enough.
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