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Old May 20, 2018, 08:40 AM
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Default Bangladesh Leg Break Bowlers Thread

The art of leg break bowling is a thing of beauty and given its success in the modern game, a thing to cherish.

Almost all the major teams in world cricket have one in their squads.

So, it's about time BD cricket started to spot these talents in the pipeline, all the way to grassroots cricket, and put some more emphasis an resources in developing these talents.

As we all know, Jubair was fast tracked to the national and exited for reasons I am not certain or don't have any knowledge of. That leaves a void in this department.

BD occasionally turn to Sabbir for timid leg break bowling these days.

I say. It's about time the leg spinning revolution invades the BD cricket culture.

The importance of leg spins is an asset to any team...I list a couple who are from lesser teams and troubling top quality batsmen of the world:

Rashid
Sandeep (yeah, I know he's green)
Ashwin (leg spinner Ashwin, not proven)
Mujeeb does bowl the googly


BD team needs more variety. Development of leg spinners is an option.

Also, those who are following the local cricket in BD. How many leg spinners are there? And can you provide us with some names?
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Old May 20, 2018, 08:43 AM
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we have lots of quality leg spinners, you'll see them in wedding functions. but not any in the cricket area
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Old May 20, 2018, 08:50 AM
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we have lots of quality leg spinners, you'll see them in wedding functions. but not any in the cricket area
Oh. Why though?
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Old May 20, 2018, 09:05 AM
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Jubair had all the potential, but very raw. It sucks that the domestic teams don't play him and he isn't gaining any real experience. BCB needs to invest in him and make sure he is getting the necessary development. And they will do that once they realize the value of a quality legspinner, whenever that is.

And I am hoping they don't get the wrong idea and invest in Tanbir Haider...
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Old May 20, 2018, 09:29 AM
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Jubair had all the potential, but very raw. It sucks that the domestic teams don't play him and he isn't gaining any real experience. BCB needs to invest in him and make sure he is getting the necessary development. And they will do that once they realize the value of a quality legspinner, whenever that is.

And I am hoping they don't get the wrong idea and invest in Tanbir Haider...
Didn't some coach say jubair doesn't train
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Old May 20, 2018, 10:42 AM
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Didn't some coach say jubair doesn't train
Even if you see Jubair now, he looks fairly unfit, chubby. Its as if he is a part time professional like you get in associate countries.

Here is a writeup with some of his issues, including failing the skinfold test

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...y/1117451.html
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Old May 20, 2018, 10:53 AM
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I think the major issue holding us back is "inspiration".

Rafique, Enamul Haque, Shakib showed that left arm spin is the way and an entire generation followed. Not only that clubs, first class teams value SLA's due to technical limitations of our batsmen, nature of pitch and the fact that they are less expensive. The modus operandi in our nets is always go with the time tested "safe" approach. Coaches are also guilty of not allowing youngsters to try something unusual.

I ve highlighted this example before, but i attended a clinic by a few well known BD coaches (Including a former captain). Kids, for the sake of fun loved to give the ball a rip, extract turn. Thats what excited them. But the coaches always shunned the attitude. The mantra was "Beat the batsman in the air." Thats fine and by the book. But by the book doesnt work in todays cricket.

Honestly i hope we bring in a coach from India or Sri Lanka to work with youngsters at age group level. No point getting someone at senior level. We have to find raw talent, and for that we need open minded coaches.
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Old May 20, 2018, 02:29 PM
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For a leg spinner to succeed... He needs to practice and play a LOT of games and bowl a lot of overs...the biggest issue with leggie are inconsistency. Our country hasn't produced leggie is because our captains, coached, management aren't patient with these leggies. Jubair went the furthest because Hatri was patient with him. But then everyone else wasn't backing him up
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Old May 20, 2018, 03:51 PM
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Do we even have a legspin coach? Also, isn't Tanbir Hayder a legspinner all-rounder? Although his stats don't say he is a good legspinner but a better batsman.
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Old May 21, 2018, 12:38 AM
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Do we even have a legspin coach? Also, isn't Tanbir Hayder a legspinner all-rounder? Although his stats don't say he is a good legspinner but a better batsman.
Tanbir Hayder features regularly in the domestic teams. He has the ability to bat which works for his favor. He is perhaps the only leg spinner in the country who gets to bowl. I am aware that Marshal Ayub used to bowl leg spin but he is mostly a batsman.
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Old May 21, 2018, 12:47 AM
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There was another Leg spinner named Noor Hossain who played in the under-19 world cup in 2010. He last played in NCL in 2016.
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Old May 21, 2018, 03:03 AM
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Tanbir Hayder was a desperate attempt to create a leg spinner out of someone who was merely a part timer.

Never had the quality in the first place.
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Old May 21, 2018, 04:27 AM
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Tanbir Hayder features regularly in the domestic teams. He has the ability to bat which works for his favor. He is perhaps the only leg spinner in the country who gets to bowl. I am aware that Marshal Ayub used to bowl leg spin but he is mostly a batsman.
With his wicket taking and bowling average, you really don't see him to be that dangerous at all.
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Old May 21, 2018, 06:15 PM
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Tanbir Hayder was a desperate attempt to create a leg spinner out of someone who was merely a part timer.

Never had the quality in the first place.
That was such an embarrassing attempt, I am glad the selectors and coach realized soon enough that he does not have any quality or talent as a leggie in the first place.

If only Jubair didn't have his troubles in the domestics.
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Jubair Hossain Likhon has been picked as a net bowler for our batsmen who will face Rashid Khan in the AFG T20 series. He will try to impress senior players, coaching staffs and selection panel. Let me quote few things to the best of my memory about him that I heard recently over net:

1. Mash said that he is bowling well. But not at that stage to be picked right away.
2. Mushy said that he bowls with some pace, similar to Rashid Khan which is handy. However, the few glimpses I saw on Youtube don't really suggest that.
3. Jubair himself said (before this training/prep for AFG) that he is also training with the bat so that he can be selected as an all-rounder.
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Old May 22, 2018, 04:54 PM
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3. Jubair himself said (before this training/prep for AFG) that he is also training with the bat so that he can be selected as an all-rounder.
everyones an allrounder in our country, yet our tail cant wag if their life depended on it

current philosophy of the players if I take one or two wickets and score one or two 50 in 10/15 matches It'll be enough to get selected, thus trying batting and bowling both and not getting any one of the art right

even with the modern day T20 money calling its not enough to motivate our players to work hard. they are happy with mediocrity

just wait and see how Afg crank up players after rashid and mujib success in Ipl
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Old May 23, 2018, 05:19 PM
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If Jubair ain't no good leggiie, why he prepping the boys up to face a legend? Rashid?
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Old May 24, 2018, 02:17 AM
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If Jubair ain't no good leggiie, why he prepping the boys up to face a legend? Rashid?
You have to do with what you have. Well, it's not like Jubair is not a good leg break bowler. He definitely have the potential as evident from the test against India where he deceived batsman like Kohli with his wrong un. The clubs in the country are not patient with leg spinners and that's why we don't see them in the top level cricket.

There are players in Bangladesh who start as leg spinners and later turn into batsman or off spinners.
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Old May 24, 2018, 06:51 AM
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You have to do with what you have. Well, it's not like Jubair is not a good leg break bowler. He definitely have the potential as evident from the test against India where he deceived batsman like Kohli with his wrong un. The clubs in the country are not patient with leg spinners and that's why we don't see them in the top level cricket.

There are players in Bangladesh who start as leg spinners and later turn into batsman or off spinners.
Yes, that's the sad thing in all of this.

I do hope with all the leggies and their craft flying around in the international scene, that some youngster in Bangladesh gets inspired by it, and pick up a ball and start twirling it at the back of the hand!
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Old May 29, 2018, 09:32 AM
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Bangladesh Leg Break Bowlers: New addition Mustafiz.

Sorry, he is Toe Break Bowler.
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