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Old June 21, 2010, 05:31 AM
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Default Shakib and Umar Amin's run-out

absolutely disgusted...umar amin had clearly completed the run...totally unsportsmanlike, and hence he joins Latif, Ross taylor, and Brendon Mccullum, his fellow brothers of deceit.

shala para na bowl korte...cheat kore wicket niye match tao harbe.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:34 AM
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He needs to go. Simple as that.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:35 AM
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I did not see what happened. Asaad, can you please explain what heppened as I could not get an clear idea from either match thread or cricinfo.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:39 AM
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I did not see what happened. Asaad, can you please explain what heppened as I could not get an clear idea from either match thread or cricinfo.
This was a carbon copy incident of what happened to Shakib in Australia. Remember Shakib completed the run and then went across to speak to Tamim and Watson whipped the bail off? However in that case the umpire saw the whole thing and called ball before Watson could appeal. But Shakib here, seeing the whole thing called for the replay when it was clear that Amin was not running and at the end he decided not to call him back. Mahmudullah should share the blame as well.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:45 AM
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who gives a ****...amader timea prottek team kono na kono kichu kore, so as umpires. ekhon amra kichu korlei spirit of the game noshto..oi noshto shei noshto
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:47 AM
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Shameful act by Shakib. He should be stripped off the captaincy. Remember Rafique? We could have won the Test match against Pakistan at Multan. He was a true sportsman and called Umar Gul Back.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:48 AM
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I did not see what happened. Asaad, can you please explain what heppened as I could not get an clear idea from either match thread or cricinfo.
Amin completed the run, but was walking parallel to the crease as riyad was bowling over the wicket. happened to just take his bat off the ground as riyad whipped the bails off. riyad was unaware of Amin's action...he was just whipping the bails off reflexively. shakib saw the whole thing and appealed.

hence riyad is innocent, as he did not appeal, now was he even aware of the situation.

shakib cheated although he didn't actually break any rules like Afridi or Latif.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:48 AM
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No he did not cheat. He appealed and umpire gave him Out. I dont see anything wrong with that. Where as Latif and co claimed catch which was not.
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:53 AM
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No he did not cheat. He appealed and umpire gave him Out. I dont see anything wrong with that. Where as Latif and co claimed catch which was not.
its whats called legal cheating or fair play by way of technicality. it is NOT what the rule makers had in mind when they wrote the rules. not very different than a murderer who walks free because his lawyer gets a key piece of evidence inadmissible to the jury.

and 100 wickets for shakib....well bowled and congrats.

does he really need to cheat?
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:55 AM
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Cheat??

hahaha

Reminds me of Rashid Latif & B. McCulam....
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Old June 21, 2010, 05:58 AM
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sorry, change the rules if it is legal cheating, add a clause that the umpires can decide whether the batsman was going for a run or not.

as long as the rule stays as it is, shakib is 100% justified in what he did. I've seen murali, sehwag dismissed like this, nobody raised a finger. what's so special about umar amin all of a sudden ?
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Alright people. Get over it! Shut the ''sportsmanship'' button.

The stumps got broken when the bat was in the air, and so he's OUT. Shakib didn't claim a catch which wasn't a catch, or something like that. There's no cheating on his part. You're there to win a game, and not ''allow'' your opponents chances there.

Though I agree (as I said in the match thread), we did take a mick on Watson when he had tried to run out in a similar incident. However, I don't think any of us would have complained had Shakib been given out in that case. However, at least in that one Shakib took permission from the umpire on his way out of the crease.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:00 AM
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how many times we have seen shakib given out unfairly in NZ and then back at home against england ????
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:03 AM
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Thank you Nafi.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:06 AM
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thats not cheating.

shakib saw it and asked the umpires.

now on field umpires could have not called the 3rd umpire. and also 3rd umpire could have assessed the situation and gave it not out
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its better version of what mcculam and latif did against us
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:12 AM
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its better version of what mcculam and latif did against us
What are you on about? They claimed catches, which weren't catches. They din't even appeal or something. And just went on to determine themselves that they took the catches cleanly, when they (at least Latif, if not McCullum) knew for sure that those weren't catches.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:15 AM
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Not cheating, but certainly not the act of a fair sportsman.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:25 AM
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To be honest, some other day. I might've been talking in a different tone. But these days I'll take a wicket whatever way it comes, that's so desperate I am atm. At least it's coming legal, and according to the rules.

And the thing (which I noticed later) that the batsman was just changing sides when he got out, makes me reconsider my position.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:33 AM
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Not cheating, but certainly not the act of a fair sportsman.
I agree. It was not sportsman like, but he defenitely did not cheat. I think there is a difference.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:36 AM
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He has every right to apeal..that was not a cheating.the comiees didnt say anything lyk that.even ramiz raza said that amin's inexperience got him out.that was'nt cheat bcoz if there was an overthrow the batmans wouldhv taken a run of it. It is as simple as that.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:41 AM
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:41 AM
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That is so not cheating.

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Old June 21, 2010, 06:43 AM
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Ball biting and Pitch tampering is what I call cheating. And anyone but pakis deserve to talk about fricken spirit of the game.
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Old June 21, 2010, 06:46 AM
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Cheat? Asaad you need to look at the definition of cheat. Why would Umar Akmal take it easy while playing? Was ball called? no. So I don't know what inspires you to call him a cheat. The third umpire cheated as well? Why have the rules then?

Comparing Shakib with Latif, McCullum is a slap in your own face. Over reaction perhaps.
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