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India's Batting Prospects
With dravid and vvs having retired there has been a lot of talk about whether india's young batting prospects can take over the mantle and who, when the time comes can replace tendulkar and sehwag. here, we can talk about india's up and coming batting prospects, who will and won't do well if given the chance, who can bat where. now there are a lot, i'm going to go through the ones who are already on the fringe or who are known a bit and then the ones who aren't as known.
Cheteshwar Pujara: currently is the test #3. 13 tests ave 65.55, 4 centuries, 3 half centuries, top score 206*. FC ave 60.3 21 centuries 25 half centuries top score 352 25YO right hand batsman
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/32540.html
Suresh Raina: current test #6, 17 matches ave 28.44 1 century, 7 half centuries, top score 120. FC ave 43.42 12 centuries 35 half centuries top score 204* 26YO left hand batsman
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/33335.html
Manoj Tiwary: 0 test matches to-date. FC ave 59.55 18 centuries, 14 half centuries, top score 267 27YO right hand batsman
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/35565.html
Rohit Sharma: 0 test matches. FC ave 60.78 16 centuries, 20 half centuries, top score 309* 26YO right hand batsman
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/34102.html
Ajinkya Rahane: 0 tests. FC ave 60.21 19 centuries, 23 half centuries, top score 265*. 25YO right hand top order batsman
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/277916.html
Abhinav Mukund: 5 tests ave 21.10, 0 centuries 1 half century, top score 62. FC ave 50.98, 17 centuries, 17 half centuries, top score 300* 23YO left hand top order batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/302582.html
Subramaniam Badrinath: 2 tests ave 21.00, 0 centuries, 1 half century, top score 56. FC ave 60.13 29 centuries, 36 half centuries top score 250 33YO rigth hand batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/26806.html
Murali Vijay: 16 test matches ave 38.48, 3 centuries, 3 half centuries, top score 167. FC ave 47.49, 13 centuries, 18 half centuries, top score 266. 29YO opening batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/237095.html
Ravindra Jadeja: 5 tests, ave 19.4 FC ave 50.98, 7 centuries, 12 half centuries, top score 331. 24YO allrounder, left handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/234675.html
Abhishek Nayar: 0 test matches played. FC ave 56.28, 12 centuries, 21 half centuries, top score 259. 29YO allrounder, left handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/32091.html
Manish Pandey: 0 tests. FC ave 51.71, 9 centuries, 15 half centuries, top score 218. 24YO right handed top order batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/290630.html
Mandeep Singh: 0 test matches. FC ave 52.37, 5 centuries, 9 half centuries, top score 211. 21YO Right handed top order batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/398506.html
Robin Bist: 0 test matches played. FC ave 50.00, 7 centuries, 18 half centuries, top score 176. 25YO middle order batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/262464.html
Suryakumar Yadav: 0 test matches. FC ave 51.19, 3 centuries, 6 half centuries, top score 200 s/r 85.86. 22YO batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/446507.html
Ashok Menaria: 0 tests. FC ave 47.00, 6 centuries, 7 half centuries, top score 230. 21YO left handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/371150.html
Akshath Reddy: 0 test matches played. FC ave 54.67, 5 centuries, 8 half centuries, top score 196. 22YO opening batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/376109.html
Ankit Bawne: 0 test matches. FC ave 49.23, 6 centuries, 9 half centuries, top score 166*. 20YO right handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/327123.html
Chirag Khurana: 0 tests. FC ave 42.72, 2 centuries, 4 half centuries, top score 123. 20YO right handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/327125.html
Uday Kaul: 0 tests. FC ave 51.2, 12 centuries, 18 half centuries, top score 165*. 25YO left handed wicket keeper batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...yer/30235.html
Unmukt Chand: 0 test matches. FC ave 37.25, 2 century, 8 half centuries, top score 151. 20YO right hand opening batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/446499.html
Manprit Juneja: 0 test matches. FC ave 79.75, 5 centuries, 3 half centuries, top score 201*. 22YO right hand batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/390480.html
Jiwanjot Singh: 0 test matches. FC ave 62.76, 5 centuries, 2 half centuries, top score 213. 22YO right hand batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/co...er/586985.html
Amit Kumar: 0 test matches. FC ave 59.27, 2 centuries, 4 half centuries, top score 119*. 23YO right hand batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/542935.html
Lokesh Rahul: FC average 38.84, List A average 52.53. age 21 right-handed wicket keeper batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/422108.html
Muralidharen Gautam: FC average 59.67, 8 centuries, 9 half centuries, HS 264* 27YO, right-handed wicket keeper batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/302208.html
Vijay Zol: century on FC debut, 18YO left handed batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/Australi...er/554699.html
Rajat Paliwal: FC average 52.36, 4 centuries, 4 half centuries, HS 167, 21YO right-hand bat.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/538021.html
Sheldon Jackson: FC average 53.86, 3 centuries, 4 half centuries, HS 118*, 26YO right-hand wicketkeeper batsman.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/conte...er/237696.html
also to mention is Baba Aparajith.
now that's a lot of players, some are still early in their careers so could do with a bit more seasoning before making the jump to international cricket, but you never know with indian cricket, often they select out of nowhere or just off one FC season.
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alright well i guess i'll start things off by saying i think pujara will be kept around for the next year or 2, if he's done well after that period i think he'll most likely be india's #3 for a long time.
i think raina has had his chance, he's been given enough matches to show himself and although he's had a couple of good innings he's proven he can't do it consistently at the test level so i think they should be giving some others ago.
rahane should probably get a chance since both sehwag and gambhir haven't done well lately, with raina's spot going to either rohit or tiwary at this point to see whether they've got what it takes.
long term i think chand and reddy will be in with good chances, opening batsmen which doesn't have as many contenders as the middle order, mukund is still on the radar though his first few test matches weren't a success he could be given another chance, we'll see how he goes on the up coming A tour (same with chand).
i've also heard good things about pandey, mandeep and yadav.
kaul can keep wicket so he'd be an option as keeper when the time comes, it's not like dhoni is stellar with the bat in tests, he's still great for a keeper but not to the standard of what india has had with the rest of the batsmen since the early 90s. of course saha is a good keeper and solid batsman so he is there also.
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I haves high hopes from Pujara, who I feel is going to be the next superstar in the Indian test line up.
Rahane is another exciting prospect and he will surely come into picture very soon, and then we can see how he handles himself in test cricket.
I still think Rohit will be a good Test batsman and IMO he will take that number 5 position after Sachin retires and Kohli moves to number 4.
Mandeep singh is a player to keep and eye on. Brilliant prospect he is.
Haven't seen Yadav bat, but his stats are amazing.
Its not the batting, but the bowling which has always been the problem for India.
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I haves high hopes from Pujara, who I feel is going to be the next superstar in the Indian test line up.
Rahane is another exciting prospect and he will surely come into picture very soon, and then we can see how he handles himself in test cricket.
I still think Rohit will be a good Test batsman and IMO he will take that number 5 position after Sachin retires and Kohli moves to number 4.
Mandeep singh is a player to keep and eye on. Brilliant prospect he is.
Haven't seen Yadav bat, but his stats are amazing.
Its not the batting, but the bowling which has always been the problem for India.
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yes the bowling is an issue, but there are huge shoes to fill in the batting and everyone is talking about whether india can replace them.
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Some serious batting talent. We could do with a few of them in our team
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Some serious batting talent. We could do with a few of them in our team
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Give Shakib Al Hasan and you can pick 2
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September 10, 2012, 07:43 AM
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yes the bowling is an issue, but there are huge shoes to fill in the batting and everyone is talking about whether india can replace them.
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Yes, its not easy to replace players like Sachin and Dravid. these are once ona generation players. But IMO, we do have the batting talent that can do well and can be a decent batting order if not great.
As I said bowling is our main issue. If we can find good bowlers than We can do well as a team in every conditions.
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Give Shakib Al Hasan and you can pick 2
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give kholi and you can have 10 except shakib
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give kholi and you can have 10 except shakib
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even if you give Shakib, kohli isn't going anywhere. You can have tiwary.
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Due to the Lack of good bowlers in indian domestic cricket, Indian domestic batsmen average are high, inflated.
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Due to the Lack of good bowlers in indian domestic cricket, Indian domestic batsmen average are high, inflated.
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Absolutely. Indians are Flat track bullies/Poor bowler bullies.
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Absolutely. Indians are Flat track bullies/Poor bowler bullies.
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Can't say that for all indian batsmen, some are pretty good, Virat Kohli. I think he played well in Australia. I was refering to the indian domestic players.
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A lot of batting talent for sure. I know some Indian fans don't like that people are calling for Tendu's head but it's time for him to go. He just doesn't have it anymore and should follow Dravid's and Laxman's path.
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to drop Sehwag down in Tests to maybe #4/5 and bring Rahane to open. Chand is definitely a guy that should be fast tracked. I'm really not sure about Rohit. Of he can't be consistent in the shorter forms, then I don't see him being good for Tests either.
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I guess Tendulkar did not play Ajmal too often, otherwise his career average would have gone right down to earth
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A lot of batting talent for sure. I know some Indian fans don't like that people are calling for Tendu's head but it's time for him to go. He just doesn't have it anymore and should follow Dravid's and Laxman's path.
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to drop Sehwag down in Tests to maybe #4/5 and bring Rahane to open. Chand is definitely a guy that should be fast tracked. I'm really not sure about Rohit. Of he can't be consistent in the shorter forms, then I don't see him being good for Tests either.
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Our openers are in very poor form. One of Sehwag/Gambhir needs to be dropped. Rahane should open.
I still beleive rohit has the credentials and potential to succeed in test cricket and would like to see the team giving him opportunities in place of that Hack Raina.
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Our openers are in very poor form. One of Sehwag/Gambhir needs to be dropped. Rahane should open.
I still beleive rohit has the credentials and potential to succeed in test cricket and would like to see the team giving him opportunities in place of that Hack Raina.
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Ya Raina has gotten his opportunities and it's time others are tried. Rohit definitely has the ability to succeed at this level but for some reason he hasn't been consistent enough. Perhaps it's the pressure that cant handle?
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Indian batsmen, total failure away from home
When they play against Pakistan, they always make sure's that Surface is 100% Batting Paradise.
I think they do that becuase they know that maybe for less than 100, they will be bowled out
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Indian batsmen, total failure away from home
When they play against Pakistan, they always make sure's that Surface is 100% Batting Paradise.
I think they do that becuase they know that maybe for less than 100, they will be bowled out
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Pakistani fan talking about India's Batting??
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Pakistani fan talking about India's Batting??
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dare to play us in a bowling pitch?
Ur so called top guns wicket will be flying, left, right, middle OUT OUT OUT
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Ya Raina has gotten his opportunities and it's time others are tried. Rohit definitely has the ability to succeed at this level but for some reason he hasn't been consistent enough. Perhaps it's the pressure that cant handle?
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Don't know what Rohit's problem is. Maybe he is not that good that his fans(including me) think of him. Maybe its just the eye catching and attractive shots that he plays makes us feel that he is something special, but his crap performance says otherwise. But I would take him my team every time over Raina. He needs to perform now as India has some other batting prospects that our waiting for their turn.
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dare to play us in a bowling pitch?
Ur so called top guns wicket will be flying, left, right, middle OUT OUT OUT
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wake up Pak bowling is no longer a world class attack. You only have ajmal who is world class test bowler. No one else is. I think Cheema was opening the bowling for Pak side in last series. You think Indian batsmen are scared of Playing Cheema and Tanvir??
Btw who is going to score runs for your side on a bowling friendly pitch?? you don't have the batsmen to play on a bowling friendly track.
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wake up Pak bowling is no longer a world class attack. You only have ajmal who is world class test bowler. No one else is. I think Cheema was opening the bowling for Pak side in last series. You think Indian batsmen are scared of Playing Cheema and Tanvir??
Btw who is going to score runs for your side on a bowling friendly pitch?? you don't have the batsmen to play on a bowling friendly track.
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I guess u have not been following Pakistan cricket team. Both Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez are ranked No.1 & No. 2 In ODI ranking. Hafeez has a economy rate of 4.04 and Saeed Ajmal 4.14. in terms of our batting, we have players like Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal, Nasir Jamshed who perform well. Yes our middle order is a bit of a concern as Misbah is catching up with old age.
This Bowling attack should be enough for India: Ajmal, Hafeez, Gul, Afridi, Tanvir, Junaid is also exciting bowler.
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I guess u have not been following Pakistan cricket team. Both Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez are ranked No.1 & No. 2 In ODI ranking. Hafeez has a economy rate of 4.04 and Saeed Ajmal 4.14. in terms of our batting, we have players like Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal, Nasir Jamshed who perform well. Yes our middle order is a bit of a concern as Misbah is catching up with old age.
This Bowling attack should be enough for India: Ajmal, Hafeez, Gul, Afridi, Tanvir, Junaid is also exciting bowler.
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This was the same attack with which Pak has lost against India in last 3 matches. Only Tanvir is the addition. So the great Tanvir is going to take India down. Hail Tanvir.
And pls don't even compare you ODI batting line up with India.
your Great bowling line up against India
Sohail Tanveer averages 36.41
Afridi averages 58.21
Gul averages 45.46
Hafeez averages 47.50
Ajmal averages 25.22
We are scared.
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Both are good teams but sorry Jamshed, I would have to say that India have the better side. Both are very good teams no doubt but India's batting has a big leg up compared to Pakistan's. Pakistan's bowling is better of course but its mainly due to the spinners. The pacers have surprisingly not been great for Pakistan recently. Gul's the best pacer but hasnt been on song. Junaid Khan is a big prospect however. If you guys have a better pace attack then I think you guys could give India a run for their money.
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