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Old January 13, 2011, 07:47 AM
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Default The Ashraful debate: Should he be included in WC squad?

Seems like former captains start influencing selector to pick Ash in WC cup squad. Already Faruk, Akram, Bashar, Rokibul joined to support Ash inclusion in various media interview and writing. So far no expert said anything against Ash. Surely Baghmama and co reading these interviews and going to play safe by including Ash in the squad.
Do u BCites agree with our so called cricket experts?
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Old January 13, 2011, 07:54 AM
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ফারুক আহমেদের অভিমত
বিশ্বকাপে আশরাফুলের অভিজ্ঞতার প্রয়োজন রয়েছে

‘দেশের হয়ে দেড়শর বেশি ওয়ানডে খেলা কোনো খেলোয়াড়ের অভিজ্ঞতা একেবারেই হেলাফেলার বিষয় নয়। তাই আসন্ন বিশ্বকাপে আশরাফুলের মতো অভিজ্ঞ খেলোয়াড়ের বাংলাদেশ দলে প্রয়োজন রয়েছে।’ যাকে দলে নেওয়া না নেওয়া নিয়ে এ মুহূর্তে চারদিকে বিতর্কের ঝড় সেই মো. আশরাফুল সম্পর্কে এমনই মূল্যায়ন বাংলাদেশের সাবেক অধিনায়ক ও প্রধান নির্বাচক ফারুক আহমেদের।
প্রথম আলো অনলাইনের সঙ্গে একান্ত আলাপচারিতায় ফারুক বলেন, ‘আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে আমাদের প্রত্যাশা অনেক। এটা ঠিক যে সে তাঁর প্রতিভা অনুযায়ী ধারাবাহিকতার সঙ্গে কখনো খেলতে পারেনি। তবে বিশ্বকাপ ক্রিকেটের মতো আসরে আশরাফুলের অবশ্যই দলে থাকা উচিত। আমাদের ক্রিকেট এখনো সেই পর্যায়ে পৌঁছায়নি যে হুট করে দেড়শ ওয়ানডে খেলা একজন খেলোয়াড়কে আমি বাদ দিয়ে দেব। তাহলে তো ওর প্রতি ক্রিকেট বোর্ডের যে বিনিয়োগ তার পুরোটাই অপচয় হবে।’
আশরাফুলের ব্যাপারে নিজের সহানুভূতি থাকলেও দর্শক সমর্থকদের অনুভূতির ব্যাপারটিও আশরাফুলকে মাথায় রাখতে হবে বলেও মনে করেন ফারুক।
সাবেক প্রধান নির্বাচক হিসেবে বর্তমান নির্বাচক কমিটির মূল্যায়ন করতে গিয়ে ফারুক বলেন, ‘২০০৭ সালে আমরা যে পর্যায়ে দলকে রেখে এসেছিলাম, সেই পর্যায়ের তুলনায় প্রথম দিকে বর্তমান কমিটির কাজকর্ম একটু অগোছালো ছিল। হতে পারে, আইসিএল একটা সমস্যা সৃষ্টি করেছিল সে সময়। তবে এ মুহূর্তে সেই সমস্যা থেকে রফিকুল আলমের নেতৃত্বাধীন কমিটি অনেকটাই বেরিয়ে এসেছে।’ এই ধারাবাহিকতা ধরে রাখতে পারলে ভবিষ্যতে বাংলাদেশ আরও ভালো করবে বলেই ফারুক বিশ্বাস করেন।
বর্তমান নির্বাচক কমিটি ঠিক পথে এগোলেও নতুন তারকা তৈরির ক্ষেত্রে এই কমিটি বেশ পিছিয়ে আছে বলে মনে করেন ফারুক। তবে দল হিসেবে শক্ত ভিত্তির ওপর দাঁড় করাতে হলে অতিরিক্ত পরিবর্তন কাম্য নয় বলেই তিনি মনে করেন।
তামিম ইকবালের সহ-অধিনায়ক হিসেবে নিয়োগ পাওয়া চমত্কার একটি সিদ্ধান্ত বলেই মানছেন ফারুক। তিনি মনে করেন, ক্রিকেটে সহ-অধিনায়কের ভূমিকাটা একজন সিনিয়র খেলোয়াড়ের মতোই। তাই তামিমের মতো খেলোয়াড় এই ভূমিকায় দলকে দারুণ সাহায্য করতে পারবে বলে মনে করেন তিনি। ফারুক আরও বলেন, একজন উদ্বোধনী ব্যাটসম্যান প্রথমে মাঠে নেমে ম্যাচের মেজাজটা অন্য যেকোনো খেলোয়াড়ের চেয়ে অনেক ভালো বোঝে। সেই হিসেবে তামিম দলকে ভালোই সাহায্য করতে পারবে।
সাকিবের অধিনায়ক হওয়া নিয়ে কোনো বিতর্ক নেই বলে মনে করেন ফারুক। তিনি বলেন, সাকিবের রেকর্ডই বলে দেয় অধিনায়ক হিসেবে সে অবশ্যই ‘অটোমেটিক চয়েস’।
মাশরাফি বিশ্বকাপে খেলতে পারবে বলে আশাবাদ ব্যক্ত করেন ফারুক। ফারুকের মতে, মাশরাফি খেলতে না পারলে তা হবে দলের জন্য একটা বড় আঘাত।
নিজে বাংলাদেশের প্রথম বিশ্বকাপ দলের অংশ হতে পারায় দারুণ গর্ব অনুভব করেন ফারুক আহমেদ। ফারুক তাঁর বিশ্বকাপ অভিজ্ঞতা বর্ণনা করতে গিয়ে বলেন, ‘নিরানব্বইয়ের বিশ্বকাপে খেলতে গিয়ে প্রতিটি মুহূর্তই দারুণ উপভোগ করেছি। স্কটল্যান্ড আর পাকিস্তানকে হারানো মধুরতম অভিজ্ঞতা
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A big NO with his current form. He is not emotionally strong enough to overcome the Siddons effect and not able to play confidently. So, he will just waste a position in the batting line up.
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I think he should play at number 6 and mushfiq at 3.

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I think he should play at number 6 and mushfiq at 3.

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Old January 13, 2011, 08:34 AM
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No freaking way.
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Old January 13, 2011, 08:32 AM
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Old January 13, 2011, 08:41 AM
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are u crazy?it's the WC we are talking about,we can't play the match with 10 players when the opposition are playing with 13!(11+2umpires!)
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'না' ভোট !

খেলতে না পারলে অভিজ্ঞতা ধুইয়ে কি পানি খাব নাকি ? কনফিডেন্স লেভেল এর তলানি তে যেয়ে ঠেকছে এমন খেলোয়ার দরকার নাই !!!
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Yes but as a backup player.
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Mohammad Ashraful has lately gone down the queer street as a journeyman. He may not be dazzling in their last encounter scoring only 8 runs but he was the chief architect in one of the subsequent World Cup match against South Africa. He has been kissing the canvas ever since but unlike the way he did so in Cardiff. However, cognizant of all the above mentioned worries, the temptation to not to use Ashraful - keeping knuckles crossed for an Eid innings- is just too great. He gets the cut if anything just for the intimidation factor and he comes down the order during Power Play overs.
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He probably is the least accomplished cricketer in history among the ones playing 150+ ODIs. I would include Jaharul in his place in a heartbeat! Ex-captain-der sobar matha kharap hoichhe!!!
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We need Ash but only if he bats at # 6-7. Big NO if they make him bat at #4. So I voted Yes...
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We need Ash but only if he bats at # 6-7. Big NO if they make him bat at #4. So I voted Yes...
Ash won't bat at 8. And his pathetic fielding and running itself might cost bd games.
He can carry drinks at best, and I'm feeling generous today.
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Ash won't bat at 8. And his pathetic fielding and running itself might cost bd games.
He can carry drinks at best, and I'm feeling generous today.
I know he wont bat at #8 and he doesnt even deserve to be a waterboy but keep in mind we dont have a big hitter of the ball in our team. Ash MIGHT be a solution for our PP. And on top of that he is too big of a star to miss out a WC. Trust me, the selectors will be crucified if they dont pick Ash. Since they will pick him anyway might as well use him. But only for # 6-8
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Is anyone else sick and tired of this same question over and over again? It's getting boring now. Ash chapter should have closed months ago.
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he could be a useful 12th man
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Old January 13, 2011, 09:50 AM
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in an interview to ATN News shown today


Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

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Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

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That's the reason why he should not be in the team. he just does not understand what's best for him and just wants to bat wherever he will have the chance to score the most. If he really understood his own game then he would try to revert to a #7 role by playing power shots and practice his bowling more. He still thinks after all these years he can bat in the top order still.

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That's the reason why he should not be in the team. he just does not understand what's best for him and just wants to bat wherever he will have the chance to score the most. If he really understood his own game then he would try to revert to a #7 role by playing power shots and practice his bowling more. He still thinks after all these years he can bat in the top order still.

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As if he is educated enough to understand this statement he may have played 150+ matches but who gave him all these chances BCB gave him most chances compared to other players BCb has been very kind to him to give him chance he is just taking advantage to make money . He is not a talented player at all FLUKE win can happen in cricket. Better Give Rokibul a chance or even Jahurul islam a chance BD is a much better team without Ashraful.
Why is BCB doing so much lobbing its not helping the team anyways.
ASH should retire so he can hold his so called glory and honor among the fans.
I hope shakib does not take him in the squad this is going to be huge mistake he will play the first match and throw his wicket and he will have nothing to do but retire.
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Mohammad Ashraful - I prefer to play at no 4/5 as most of my runs came from this position. but i never argued with the coach about my current position(7) which is probably a reason of losing my form.

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What? His current position is no.3, isn't it?
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What? His current position is no.3, isn't it?
true that but bit confusing. his last 4 innings were at 4 , 6 , 6 , 4 position .though lets assume that as his role at 6/7 which he doesn't like to do ,instead interested to play at no-4.(according to TV interview)
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being 12th man he may start crying and use his tears as drinks for others..thats the most useful thing he is capable of doing right now..
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