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Old February 2, 2009, 11:33 AM
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wat do u mean i can prove it.nothing to prove about sakib.........every1 knows about sakib........maybe u dont.....
I dont have anything against Shakib...but sometimes we are little too emotional
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Shakib Al Hasan
Tests 12 22 1 556 96 26.47 1116 49.82 0 2 71 1 6 0
ODIs 62 60 12 1599 134* 33.31 2273 70.34 2 10 149 6 11 0
T20Is 8 8 0 97 26 12.12 88 110.22 0 0 10 1 3 0
First-class 35 64 6 1972 129 34.00 3 10 20 0
List A 78 76 13 1965 134* 31.19 2753 71.37 2 13 176 7 20 0
Twenty20 8 8 0 97 26 12.12 88 110.22 0 0 10 1 3 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 12 17 2330 1109 35 7/36 9/115 31.68 2.85 66.5 1 4 0
ODIs 62 61 3047 2044 68 3/11 3/11 30.05 4.02 44.8 0 0 0
T20Is 8 8 168 201 10 4/34 4/34 20.10 7.17 16.8 1 0 0
First-class 35 6195 2715 86 7/36 31.56 2.62 72.0 2 6 0
List A 78 77 3735 2488 81 4/30 4/30 30.71 3.99 46.1 2 0 0
Twenty20 8 8 168 201 10 4/34 4/34 20.10 7.17 16.8 1 0 0
Samit Patel
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
ODIs 11 5 0 116 31 23.20 124 93.54 0 0 6 4 4 0
First-class 41 61 6 2678 176 48.69 4003 66.89 8 15 19 0
List A 83 67 12 1755 114 31.90 2131 82.35 1 9 19 0
Twenty20 43 41 8 809 84* 24.51 698 115.90 0 5 74 21 18 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
ODIs 11 9 340 319 11 5/41 5/41 29.00 5.62 30.9 0 1 0
First-class 41 2459 1170 34 4/68 34.41 2.85 72.3 1 0 0
List A 83 1944 1649 66 5/41 5/41 24.98 5.08 29.4 0 1 0
Twenty20 43 31 547 666 28 3/11 3/11 23.78 7.30 19.5 0 0 0
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:35 AM
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u guys dn't get it..yes we all know how good of a player sakib is..and yes he is at the top of the ICC alrounder ranking..but so what..you think any body except us die hard fans and some loyal foreign supporters bothered to watch sakib score that magnificent 100 against pakistan or that 92 against srilanka..or his 4 5-ier against nz, srilanka and south africa...unless the entire bangladesh team starts performing on a consistent basis our players will never get the treatment they deserve.
spot on
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:37 AM
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if you call Samit Patel overwight one hot wonder....then Shakib is a Minnow Basher....just take out his performances against Zimbabwe....then you can see where Shakib stands....his performance agaisnt the big guns is nothing extra ordinary

Shakib is surly the best player of Bangladesh but he still needs to perfrom against the big guns consistantly
thats rubbish - we have played some of the biggest guns in cricket in the last 6 mths and thats when he has shot up to the top!!!
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:38 AM
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What about Mash?? Are we all forgetting his disrespectful 50K?
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:38 AM
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if anybody says samit patel is better than sakib, he doesn't understand cricket
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:39 AM
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guys i know that the rates are cheap but as has been pointed already there are only a limited number of slots and if that means we can get 4 of our players in the IPL (fingers crossed) and hopefully perform then it will be a huge achievement for us come the T20 world cup.

btw 75,000 is by no means a joke, its a hell of a lot of money for 1 mth and i bet u shakib wud be delighted to have that, he performs well (which inshallah he will) then next year he will negotiate a higher salary - remember we need exposure at the moment, these are all young players and they surely don't need to be commanding several hundred thousand dollars at the moment (it would be nice but not essential)
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:41 AM
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Shakib Al Hasan
Tests 12 22 1 556 96 26.47 1116 49.82 0 2 71 1 6 0
ODIs 62 60 12 1599 134* 33.31 2273 70.34 2 10 149 6 11 0
T20Is 8 8 0 97 26 12.12 88 110.22 0 0 10 1 3 0
First-class 35 64 6 1972 129 34.00 3 10 20 0
List A 78 76 13 1965 134* 31.19 2753 71.37 2 13 176 7 20 0
Twenty20 8 8 0 97 26 12.12 88 110.22 0 0 10 1 3 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 12 17 2330 1109 35 7/36 9/115 31.68 2.85 66.5 1 4 0
ODIs 62 61 3047 2044 68 3/11 3/11 30.05 4.02 44.8 0 0 0
T20Is 8 8 168 201 10 4/34 4/34 20.10 7.17 16.8 1 0 0
First-class 35 6195 2715 86 7/36 31.56 2.62 72.0 2 6 0
List A 78 77 3735 2488 81 4/30 4/30 30.71 3.99 46.1 2 0 0
Twenty20 8 8 168 201 10 4/34 4/34 20.10 7.17 16.8 1 0 0
Samit Patel
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
ODIs 11 5 0 116 31 23.20 124 93.54 0 0 6 4 4 0
First-class 41 61 6 2678 176 48.69 4003 66.89 8 15 19 0
List A 83 67 12 1755 114 31.90 2131 82.35 1 9 19 0
Twenty20 43 41 8 809 84* 24.51 698 115.90 0 5 74 21 18 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
ODIs 11 9 340 319 11 5/41 5/41 29.00 5.62 30.9 0 1 0
First-class 41 2459 1170 34 4/68 34.41 2.85 72.3 1 0 0
List A 83 1944 1649 66 5/41 5/41 24.98 5.08 29.4 0 1 0
Twenty20 43 31 547 666 28 3/11 3/11 23.78 7.30 19.5 0 0 0
I just highlighted the Twenty20 records
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:45 AM
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What about Mash?? Are we all forgetting his disrespectful 50K?
bro i think the fact that we have 4 players on the list is respectfull enough..yes he deserevs much better i know that you know that..but the rest of the world doesn't...
and if the player himself feels that he is not getting the price he deserves than don't accept the offer
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Shakib Al Hassan's Nationality is at fault here . Had he been a Non-Bangladeshi he could have easily surpassed KP in the auction amount considering he is an all-rounder. An English Passport (whether you can hold the bat or bowl is a different issue ) would gurantee you 100K+.

Speaking of Samit Patel , You can call me daft BUT I somehow feel having Patel as a surname and Lalit Modi's Gujarat connections, are ample reasons to prove he can hit the bowl harder than Ashraful.
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Old February 2, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Those are some pretty disappointing figures albeit expected. Hope a couple of them cross the 150 mark during the auctions.
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Old February 2, 2009, 12:16 PM
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At the cost of repeating myself ..guys these are base prices which means that no one can 'buy them' for less than that.I am sure Sakib will get the 350k that I predicted earlier (The rest will be around the 100k's )

A month (or two) back even the ardent BD fan would not have pushed Sakib for 500k as its only recently that Sakib is performing consistently (you might argue on that but thats what I observed )

If you were to ask me a couple months ago my list would have been Mash,Ash,Sakib and Tamim in that order

Yes, Sakib is doing a great job but he has to win matches against the big teams, convert the face saving innings agaisnt SL to a match winning innings ..a la Duminy.

I agree Sakib wins hands down when his bowling is taken into account (as he is more of a Bowler-Batsman) but 20-20 is inherently biased towards the batsmen unless you have the X factor.

But again I still predict 350K , capitalists are only blinded by money/return not by prejudices.
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Old February 2, 2009, 12:19 PM
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IMHO, Unless you are a KP or some hot megastar, a lower base price is a good thing at the auction as it gets the potential teams interested in you. And that is when they start to look deeper into a player's profile to define their limit on how much are hey going to bid on the player.

Samit is quoted at 100K doesn;t mean he'll get it and Shakib at 50K doesn't mean his auction price can't touch 500K.

I agree though that Shakib's base price should've been higher given his recent form, performance and success. Well, atleast he is on the roll and it can only get better.
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Old February 2, 2009, 12:20 PM
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bharat, you beat me. Or maybe you are just my alibi. Goshh, i am so confused!
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Old February 2, 2009, 12:26 PM
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Might as well play in the ICL

I saw bashar Commercal on ATN yesterday
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Old February 2, 2009, 12:59 PM
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A month (or two) back even the ardent BD fan would not have pushed Sakib for 500k as its only recently that Sakib is performing consistently (you might argue on that but thats what I observed )
Considering that's your yardstick for pricing a player , then what would you say about pricing the following players :

Samit Patel - Played 11 ODI matches for England with an avergae of 23.20 (Insert your Lawl'S AND lmao's here) and as a bowler took 11 tail ender wickets. These are enough to get you 100k.

Tyron Henderson - Never heard of him before and after having a look at his crricinfo profile page banged my head twice on the bathroom walls.This bloke's highest score is a 0 and went for 31 runs of the first 4 overs he bowled in the only T20 he played.100 K for his efforts.

Gulam Bodi : 2 ODI'S ,1 T20 and a strike rate of 23.2 in domestic T20 can get you a 100k.

My Internet Explorer out of sheer frustration refuses to open the profile pages of some of the other players on that list.
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Old February 2, 2009, 01:17 PM
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Hey, let them play at this price and let them prove themselves and to the whole worth how much they truely worth.

When you come from a struggling team like Bangladesh who are pegged at the bottom of the league, even your superstar performer can be deemed as only an average player to the better established entities.

Let them create their own destiny.
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Old February 2, 2009, 01:25 PM
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bharat, you beat me. Or maybe you are just my alibi. Goshh, i am so confused!
eh .. get a faster computer man ...heard of DSL/cable ? quit the dial up .
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Sad to see pakis won't be playing
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Old February 2, 2009, 01:26 PM
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Those figures are base scores. I'm sure they (or at least Shakib and Mash) will fetch higher figures.
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Old February 2, 2009, 01:27 PM
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Is IPL a T20 competition?

Samit Patel is a solid T20 player. He has played 43 matches. He has 5 fifties (50's) in T20. All four (Shakib, Mash, Ash, Tamim) combined played 34 matches.

Batting:
Samit's average: 24.51 SR 115.

Ash's average: 18.22 SR 176.
Saki's average: 12.22 SR 110.
Mash's average: 15.00 SR 105.
Tamim's Aveg: 12.88 SR 86. ???

Bowling:
Mash ave: 51.50 Econ 9.22 SR 33.5.
Saki ave: 20.10 Econ 7.17 SR 16.8.
Ash Ave: 32.00 Econ 10.00 SR 19.2.

Samit's Ave: 23.78 Econ 7.3 SR 19.5.

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If you answer the bold letter bigger font question "yes" and consider the stats; Samit has a case to have a higher base price than all four BD players and the IPL player evaluators have done a good job putting above our boys.

Bowling Samit's stat is similar to Shakib's (best BD has to offer). Batting wise he is so much ahead than Ful babu (best BD has to offer).
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Is IPL a T20 competition?

Samit Patel is a solid T20 player. He has played 43 matches. All four (Shakib, Mash, Ash, Tamim) combined played 34 matches.

Batting:
Samit's average: 24.51 SR 115.

Ash's average: 18.22 SR 176.
Saki's average: 12.22 SR 110.
Mash's average: 15.00 SR 105.
Tamim's Aveg: 12.88 SR 86. ???

Bowling:
Mash ave: 51.50 Econ 9.22 SR 33.5.
Saki ave: 20.10 Econ 7.17 SR 16.8.
Ash Ave: 32.00 Econ 10.00 SR 19.2.

Samit's Ave: 23.78 Econ 7.3 SR 19.5.

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If you answer the bold letter bigger font question "yes" and consider the stats; Samit has a case to have a higher base price than all four BD players and the IPL player evaluators have done a good job putting above our boys.

Bowling Samit's stat is similar to Shakib's (best BD has to offer). Batting wise he is so much ahead than Ful babu (best BD has to offer).
Samil Patel T20 stats only higher cause he can play in some third rate English league that has T20 Status, and our Dhaka League does not

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T_E bhai,
England has domestic Twenty20 league which is counted in case of Samit's stats and that's why he has a higher number of matches, our Dhaka Premier Twenty20 League is not officially recognised (it should be) and that's why the match count of our boys are restricted to only international matches.

Include Dhaka Premier League twenty20 stats and our boys will be miles ahead of Samit Patel.
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Samil Patel T20 stats only higher cause he can play in some third rate indian league that has T20 Status, and our Dhaka League does not
I thought he played for England and played all those T20 games in England.
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Patel has always been considered a player of great promise but has yet to consistently produce the goods at first-team level. A hard-hitting middle order batsman and capable slow left-arm bowler, he represented England at Under-15, Under-17 and Under-19 levels. He was awarded the Test Match Special Young Cricketer of the Year award in 2000 for his impressive performances in the Under-15 World Cup. He made his debut for Nottinghamshire 2nd XI at the age of just 14, in late 1999 but has failed to kick on since. In 2006, however, Patel finally began to show signs of realising his potential, scoring 156 not out against Middlesex, an innings in which he went from 100 to 150 in just 17 balls. Some of his most eye-catching performances came in Twenty20, including a unique double-wicket maiden against Derbyshire in 2006, but it was in 50-over cricket that he first attracted the interest of England's selectors, who named him in a 30-man provisional squad for the 2008 Champions Trophy. A few weeks later he was also announced in England's one-day squad to take on South Africa that August.
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Old February 2, 2009, 01:41 PM
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i expected the base prices to be higher than these... some of the players whom i've never heard of before on tht list got higher base prices than these 4... how is tht fair??? if they were non-BDeshi's... i can bet u they wud've got atleast double the base price... n how does mash get only 50,000???????????
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