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February 13, 2010, 08:36 PM
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is mortaza out of KKR???
Kolkata Knight Riders: Sourav Ganguly (capt), Cheteshwar Pujara, Charl Langeveldt, Chirag Pathak, Iqbal Abdulla, G Vignesh, Brendon McCullum, Angelo Mathews, Wriddhiman Saha, Ajit Agarkar, Chris Gayle, Manoj Tiwary, Rohan Gavaskar, Harshad Khadiwale, Varun Aaron, Eklak Ahmed, Owais Shah, Murali Kartik, Brad Hodge, Ajantha Mendis, Laxmi Shukla, Ashok Dinda, Ishant Sharma.
source: http://www.cricinfo.com/ipl2010/cont...ry/447923.html
his name isn't there.
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February 13, 2010, 08:41 PM
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the performance he showed last year do you think any team he is gonna get a spot?
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February 13, 2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crikss
the performance he showed last year do you think any team he is gonna get a spot?
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after warming up the bench for that many games, how would you rate his performance for last game and only one game he played???
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February 13, 2010, 08:44 PM
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He didn't get much of a chance...only when the team was done and dusted he played one game. But yes, who wants an injury-prone player who has no track record of doing well in T20. (IPL is stupid for only allowing 4 players..should be 5. Most Indian local players suck in terms of quality. They are only there to make the numbers.)
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February 13, 2010, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nahaz
He didn't get much of a chance...only when the team was done and dusted he played one game. But yes, who wants an injury-prone player who has no track record of doing well in T20. (IPL is stupid for only allowing 4 players..should be 5. Most Indian local players suck in terms of quality. They are only there to make the numbers.)
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agree, they should have atleast 6 foreign players. most indian players are suck.
if u notice all top ten bowlers or batsmen-u will see atleast top 6 or 7 are foreigners. out of 4X8====32 players (who compete with other 64 foreign players to get in main XI)
on the otherside, indian players are 7X8===56 and they dont have much competition to get into main XI
32 players occupy majority of top ten and top 20
while 64 players still struggle and india still dont find perfect combination, so that they have to take IPL non regular wridhdhiman saha in their main XI.
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February 14, 2010, 03:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseshah
agree, they should have atleast 6 foreign players. most indian players are suck.
if u notice all top ten bowlers or batsmen-u will see atleast top 6 or 7 are foreigners. out of 4X8====32 players (who compete with other 64 foreign players to get in main XI)
on the otherside, indian players are 7X8===56 and they dont have much competition to get into main XI
32 players occupy majority of top ten and top 20
while 64 players still struggle and india still dont find perfect combination, so that they have to take IPL non regular wridhdhiman saha in their main XI.
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I don't see the point of hijacking the world cricket itenary and then having so many crappy Indian players playing in this league that is supposed to be revolutionary. The quality is not always good due to this very fact, and this will soon start turning the overseas crowd away. It doesn't make business sense either.And the trophy and the names seem to be the product of infants' thinking, or someone creatively dumb like, say, Lalit Modi. If he wants to create world chaos,at least give us something back. What's with insulting (pakistan) and bullying (england)!!!
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February 14, 2010, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseshah
agree, they should have atleast 6 foreign players. most indian players are suck.
if u notice all top ten bowlers or batsmen-u will see atleast top 6 or 7 are foreigners. out of 4X8====32 players (who compete with other 64 foreign players to get in main XI)
on the otherside, indian players are 7X8===56 and they dont have much competition to get into main XI
32 players occupy majority of top ten and top 20
while 64 players still struggle and india still dont find perfect combination, so that they have to take IPL non regular wridhdhiman saha in their main XI.
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IPL. Indian Primer League. It's suppose to benefit the Indian team. India found some nice talents through last 2 season.
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Originally Posted by nahaz
I don't see the point of hijacking the world cricket itenary and then having so many crappy Indian players playing in this league that is supposed to be revolutionary. The quality is not always good due to this very fact, and this will soon start turning the overseas crowd away. It doesn't make business sense either.And the trophy and the names seem to be the product of infants' thinking, or someone creatively dumb like, say, Lalit Modi. If he wants to create world chaos,at least give us something back. What's with insulting (pakistan) and bullying (england)!!!
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simple answer to that is they (lalit modi) can. he has the power to. trust me if our board had that much power in world cricket (which i doubt will ever happen) we would have done something like that too. and it is revolutionary, in terms of money. do you think some one like Mash could have earned $600,000 or something close to that just playing cricket for 4/5 weeks. In terms of money cricket players make nothing comparing to other sports like football, golf, tennis. I mean a man of the match player gets $1000. thats like pocket change for some other athletes.
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February 14, 2010, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseshah
agree, they should have atleast 6 foreign players. most indian players are suck.
if u notice all top ten bowlers or batsmen-u will see atleast top 6 or 7 are foreigners. out of 4X8====32 players (who compete with other 64 foreign players to get in main XI)
on the otherside, indian players are 7X8===56 and they dont have much competition to get into main XI
32 players occupy majority of top ten and top 20
while 64 players still struggle and india still dont find perfect combination, so that they have to take IPL non regular wridhdhiman saha in their main XI.
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It is the Indian Premier League, not the Foriegners Premier League. It is a domestic tournament in India. Whether it is fulfilling the purpose of developing Indian players is a diferent story and I will not get into that.
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February 13, 2010, 08:45 PM
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in that case Brendon McCullum should be out too, what did he do? and he almost played all the games
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February 13, 2010, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bdpride04
in that case Brendon McCullum should be out too, what did he do? and he almost played all the games
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In that case
Mashrafe Mortaza = Shahriar Naffees
Brendon McCullum = Ashraful
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February 13, 2010, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bdpride04
in that case Brendon McCullum should be out too, what did he do? and he almost played all the games
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i think he is one of the best player in this format in the world. check the list.
Most runs in career
Most runsPlayer | Span | Mat | Inns | NO | Runs | HS | Ave | BF | SR | 100 | 50 | 0 | 4s | 6s |
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BJ Hodge | 2003-2010 | 80 | 77 | 11 | 2547 | 106 | 38.59 | 1979 | 128.70 | 1 | 18 | 5 | 273 | 61 | (Australia, Australia A, Kolkata Knight Riders, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Victoria) | DJ Hussey | 2004-2010 | 91 | 87 | 15 | 2298 | 100* | 31.91 | 1651 | 139.18 | 1 | 12 | 9 | 154 | 107 | (Australia, Australia A, Kolkata Knight Riders, Nottinghamshire, Victoria) | BB McCullum | 2005-2010 | 77 | 76 | 9 | 2150 | 158* | 32.08 | 1541 | 139.51 | 2 | 12 | 1 | 204 | 97 | (Canterbury, Glamorgan, Kolkata Knight Riders, New South Wales, New Zealand, Otago) | LRPL Taylor | 2006-2010 | 65 | 63 | 10 | 1870 | 111* | 35.28 | 1187 | 157.54 | 1 | 12 | 3 | 143 | 115 | (Central Districts, New Zealand, Royal Challengers Bangalore, Victoria) | GC Smith | 2004-2009 | 62 | 62 | 6 | 1856 | 105 | 33.14 | 1477 | 125.66 | 1 | 10 | 4 | 229 | 41 | (Cape Cobras, Rajasthan Royals, Somerset, South Africa, Western Province Boland) | HD Ackerman | 2004-2009 | 55 | 55 | 7 | 1811 | 87 | 37.72 | 1515 | 119.53 | 0 | 17 | 2 | 190 | 27 | (Dolphins, Leicestershire, Lions, Warriors) | JP Duminy | 2004-2009 | 67 | 64 | 15 | 1720 | 99* | 35.10 | 1444 | 119.11 | 0 | 14 | 6 | 147 | 49 | (Cape Cobras, Mumbai Indians, South Africa, Western Province Boland) | IJL Trott | 2003-2009 | 61 | 56 | 14 | 1708 | 86* | 40.66 | 1457 | 117.22 | 0 | 11 | 1 | 168 | 32 | (England, England Lions, England XI, Otago, Warwickshire) | SB Styris | 2005-2010 | 82 | 79 | 7 | 1651 | 73* | 22.93 | 1315 | 125.55 | 0 | 8 | 2 | 112 | 74 | (Auckland, Deccan Chargers, Durham, Middlesex, New Zealand, New Zealand A) | HH Gibbs | 2004-2010 | 71 | 69 | 6 | 1627 | 98 | 25.82 | 1309 | 124.29 | 0 | 13 | 14 | 164 | 5 |
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February 13, 2010, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wiseshah
i think he is one of the best player in this format in the world. check the list.
Most runs in career
Most runsPlayer | Span | Mat | Inns | NO | Runs | HS | Ave | BF | SR | 100 | 50 | 0 | 4s | 6s |
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BJ Hodge | 2003-2010 | 80 | 77 | 11 | 2547 | 106 | 38.59 | 1979 | 128.70 | 1 | 18 | 5 | 273 | 61 | (Australia, Australia A, Kolkata Knight Riders, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Victoria) | DJ Hussey | 2004-2010 | 91 | 87 | 15 | 2298 | 100* | 31.91 | 1651 | 139.18 | 1 | 12 | 9 | 154 | 107 | (Australia, Australia A, Kolkata Knight Riders, Nottinghamshire, Victoria) | BB McCullum | 2005-2010 | 77 | 76 | 9 | 2150 | 158* | 32.08 | 1541 | 139.51 | 2 | 12 | 1 | 204 | 97 | (Canterbury, Glamorgan, Kolkata Knight Riders, New South Wales, New Zealand, Otago) | LRPL Taylor | 2006-2010 | 65 | 63 | 10 | 1870 | 111* | 35.28 | 1187 | 157.54 | 1 | 12 | 3 | 143 | 115 | (Central Districts, New Zealand, Royal Challengers Bangalore, Victoria) | GC Smith | 2004-2009 | 62 | 62 | 6 | 1856 | 105 | 33.14 | 1477 | 125.66 | 1 | 10 | 4 | 229 | 41 | (Cape Cobras, Rajasthan Royals, Somerset, South Africa, Western Province Boland) | HD Ackerman | 2004-2009 | 55 | 55 | 7 | 1811 | 87 | 37.72 | 1515 | 119.53 | 0 | 17 | 2 | 190 | 27 | (Dolphins, Leicestershire, Lions, Warriors) | JP Duminy | 2004-2009 | 67 | 64 | 15 | 1720 | 99* | 35.10 | 1444 | 119.11 | 0 | 14 | 6 | 147 | 49 | (Cape Cobras, Mumbai Indians, South Africa, Western Province Boland) | IJL Trott | 2003-2009 | 61 | 56 | 14 | 1708 | 86* | 40.66 | 1457 | 117.22 | 0 | 11 | 1 | 168 | 32 | (England, England Lions, England XI, Otago, Warwickshire) | SB Styris | 2005-2010 | 82 | 79 | 7 | 1651 | 73* | 22.93 | 1315 | 125.55 | 0 | 8 | 2 | 112 | 74 | (Auckland, Deccan Chargers, Durham, Middlesex, New Zealand, New Zealand A) | HH Gibbs | 2004-2010 | 71 | 69 | 6 | 1627 | 98 | 25.82 | 1309 | 124.29 | 0 | 13 | 14 | 164 | 5 |
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what was actually meant was MCCULAM had a poor IPL last season. still his career stats look good
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February 14, 2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by offstump
what was actually meant was MCCULAM had a poor IPL last season. still his career stats look good
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i think still he managed top 10 list. he had good run in last 4 innings of IPL, i think all above 50, including one 87
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February 13, 2010, 08:54 PM
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Did he get his money?
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February 13, 2010, 10:16 PM
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KKR got a good team this year. They don't need Mashrafe. He is a crappy T20 bowler.
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February 13, 2010, 10:32 PM
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They needed to trim the squad to make room for some additional players. So they left mashrafe
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February 13, 2010, 10:34 PM
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And they included shane bond, not in the list
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February 13, 2010, 11:22 PM
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my curiosity why all the boards are so much eager to give away their international schedule due to IPL, what is their benefits?
its actually indian domestic league with some guest players.
any given day i will chooose international any match over IPL
i think international T20 is thousand times better than IPL
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February 14, 2010, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseshah
my curiosity why all the boards are so much eager to give away their international schedule due to IPL, what is their benefits?
its actually indian domestic league with some guest players.
any given day i will chooose international any match over IPL
i think international T20 is thousand times better than IPL
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Because if they didnt, the players would have played IPL anyway. The money on offer is just too good.
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February 14, 2010, 04:08 AM
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Because if they didnt, the players would have played IPL anyway. The money on offer is just too good.
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actually players cant sign IPL without boards permission.
plus if they have fear of ban by their own board, no one will join IPL, unless they are near retire age like hayden, mcgrath or shane warne.
honestly, i think mitchell johnson and michael clarke showed some guts and patriotism by neglecting crappy IPL and prefering their own country, thats called patriotism
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February 14, 2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wiseshah
actually players cant sign IPL without boards permission.
plus if they have fear of ban by their own board, no one will join IPL, unless they are near retire age like hayden, mcgrath or shane warne.
honestly, i think mitchell johnson and michael clarke showed some guts and patriotism by neglecting crappy IPL and prefering their own country, thats called patriotism
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the reason players can't sign IPL contract boards permission is because they are under contract from that board. but if the board is too pushy about it some players will have no problem's resigning and then just playing IPL. and why shouldn't they? they can play for a season and make all the money they want and relax for the rest of the year. different players have different choice so its up to them to choose what they do with their talent.
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February 13, 2010, 11:39 PM
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funny is all three top players are from KKR and still KKR sucks. they also have chris gayle. and now shane bond.
all they need is some decent Indian players, becz 7 will play in the main game and its hard for them to find 7 locals, hope this year they will have some good domestic players.
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February 14, 2010, 12:03 AM
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Injury prone, out of quality cricket and one of the worst death over bowlers/chokers of all time, this comes as no surprise.
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February 14, 2010, 12:47 AM
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Injury prone, out of quality cricket and one of the worst death over bowlers/chokers of all time, this comes as no surprise.
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it sounds harsh but it's the truth.
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February 14, 2010, 12:28 AM
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my curiosity why all the boards are so much eager to give away their international schedule due to IPL, what is their benefits?
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Certain Boards can't play there players
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