Match Thread: 1st Test, Bangladesh vs. West Indies at SBNS, Dhaka; November 13-17, 2012 - Page 6

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**126** November 12, 2012, 12:32 PM

I don't see the point of playing both Naeem and Mahmudullah either. Going by:

a) Recent form in Tests/FC
b) Combination

I don't see how Mahmudullah gets in. It's obvious he's an auto-choice because of his Vice Captaincy, which is sad. Yes, Nafees and Zunaed are generally useless too, but at least they are riding on the back of a couple of big scores and are top order batsmen, which means they are not in direct competition with the VC.

I don't think we need eight batsmen. Nasir is playing primarily as a batsman and making him come in at #8 is a waste. If we must, he should bat at #7, but no lower. I have no problems with Gazi's inclusion, but I think we can play both him and Elias. I get the LHB argument, but Elias has been successful against LHBs in the past too. If he and Shohag are indeed as good with the bat as everyone claims, then we should have no issues playing seven batsmen.

Shakib should be reprieved - bowling 50 overs can't be good for his knee. The Elias-Shakib-Gazi combo would have been ideal, because without Elias, we're effectively playing 2.5 bowlers, if I may be so generous as to assign a 0.5 to our pacers combined.

But this isn't the final line-up, so we'll see how it goes tonight. Can't wait.

Nadim · #**127** November 12, 2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kalpurush
You can't leave out Mullah!
He is the VC and did well against the Indies last time.

Why can't you leave out Nafees/Zunaid - one can be dropped to make way for Gazi, simple!!

KP bhai eida daha ekta micha kotha. Mulla to jorer jonno WI series purata miss korche goto bochor

In his last 11 Test innings, his AVG is only 16.8 with HS of 38 with 2 ducks and 20+ twice(inlcuding his HS)

Sohel · #**128** November 12, 2012, 12:35 PM

Not playing Nazza! just lost us the test match. Just look at the sheer percentage of test matches we've lost without him starting from the test debut 12 years ago. No Abul either! WILL.WE.EVER.LEARN?

Naimul_Hd · #**129** November 12, 2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kumar89
Allah help Shakib and Bangladesh, If Elias does not play shakib has to bowl like 50+ overs as SLA alone in the 1st Test. Crisis Awaits us and Shakib's injury... help. I think Saqlain Mustaq is behind the inclusion of Sohag Gazi for the 1st Test.

Isam pointed out similar concern !

Quote:

Shakib's bowling workload a worry

Shakib Al Hasan is being over-bowled every season, and is going into another with a heavy load staring him down as he leads a group of inconsistent fast bowlers and a very inexperienced spin attack
Mohammad Isam in Mirpur
November 12, 2012

kalpurush · #**130** November 12, 2012, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman

Shakib should be reprieved - bowling 50 overs can't be good for his knee. The Elias-Shakib-Gazi combo would have been ideal, because without Elias, we're effectively playing 2.5 bowlers, if I may be so generous as to assign a 0.5 to our pacers combined.

^^^ that way I see we could take 20 wickets. Hope Akram and Co. will see that too.

kalpurush · #**131** November 12, 2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadim 98

KP bhai eida daha ekta micha kotha. Mulla to jorer jonno WI series purata miss korche goto bochor

In his last 11 Test innings, his AVG is only 16.8 with HS of 38 with 2 ducks and 20+ twice(inlcuding his HS)

^^^ that were to be Akram's comment why Mullah is in the playing squad!

NOT mine!!

If I were Akram, I wouldn't select Mullah, Nafees, Nazim, Abul in the squad at the first place Nadim.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**132** November 12, 2012, 12:53 PM

As usual, if Tamim and Shakib don't fire, we won't reach 150 or take as many as 4/5 wickets. The guy with the second best performance in the NCL this year made those runs off tons of spin bowling and perhaps a few overs of third class pace bowling. How do we even expect him to have an answer for Rampaul/Fidel? And if Naeem can't, how do we expect SN/Riyad to not get blown away?

dark mage · #**133** November 12, 2012, 12:56 PM

I say Riyad has to be removed as a VC. He is hogging a position just because he is the VC

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**134** November 12, 2012, 01:00 PM

Shakib should be VC, then captain one day.

kalpurush · #**135** November 12, 2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
As usual, if Tamim and Shakib don't fire, we won't reach 150 or take as many as 4/5 wickets. The guy with the second best performance in the NCL this year made those runs off tons of spin bowling and perhaps a few overs of third class pace bowling. How do we even expect him to have an answer for Rampaul/Fidel? And if Naeem can't, how do we expect SN/Riyad to not get blown away?

ATMR, why you are always so bold and cool!?

As you have said, If Tamim and Shakib fails ...

LateCut · #**136** November 12, 2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
practice match has been postponed due to 'kordomakto matth'

You mean kordomakto aakash! right?

BANFAN · #**137** November 12, 2012, 01:50 PM

Shakib, Sunny and Gazi is must in the team... You drop anyone, you will struggle to take 20 wickets... Mullah/Nasir bowling is just waste of time and space...

SS · #**138** November 12, 2012, 02:05 PM

bits and peices players ...best on nothing below average in everything...how we will expect best from these players who are happy with where they are and getting free rides as once upon a time they did something and got into the National squad and doing nothing now!!!

HereWeGo · #**139** November 12, 2012, 02:07 PM

If 8 batsmen cant do it than 9 cant do it either... and Shohag G is also a decent batsman... I really want Elias to play in place of Zunaed/Nasir or Nafees....

deshimon · #**140** November 12, 2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadim 98

KP bhai eida daha ekta micha kotha. Mulla to jorer jonno WI series purata miss korche goto bochor

In his last 11 Test innings, his AVG is only 16.8 with HS of 38 with 2 ducks and 20+ twice(inlcuding his HS)

Mullah did well in his first Test ever in West India in2009 when he took 8 wickets including 5 wickets in 2nd innings and scored probably unbeaten 75 in 2nd Test.

Nadim · #**141** November 12, 2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deshimon
Mullah did well in his first Test ever in West India in2009 when he took 5 wickets and scored probably unbeaten 75.

Where? his 4 innings in that series was: 8,9, 28 and duck Notout

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...g;view=innings

He is in the team as a Batsman not even a AR, specially in test. getting a 5er against WI C team doesn't make you a AR.

deshimon · #**142** November 12, 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadim 98
Where? his 4 innings in that series was: 8,9, 28 and duck Notout

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...g;view=innings

He is in the team as a Batsman not even a AR, specially in test. getting a 5er against WI C team doesn't make you a AR.

I wasn't sure about his runs this is why I said probably but he took 8 wickets in his debut.

Zeeshan · #**143** November 12, 2012, 03:02 PM

Bats first Bangladesh? cuz West Indies will bats us out if given chance and also no rain...

*AsifTheManRahman* · #**144** November 12, 2012, 03:04 PM

Bat first. Or else I'm sleeping through the first two and a half days and six hundred runs.

BANFAN · #**145** November 12, 2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Bat first. Or else I'm sleeping through the first two and a half days and six hundred runs.

You aren't excited to watch Abul bowling hours together?? If not Gazi...

Zeeshan · #**146** November 12, 2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
looking forward to see gayle's 3rd triple century

A triple doesn't bother me as much as scoring it in different formats like ODI or *shudder* Tea20.

Rabz · #**147** November 12, 2012, 03:08 PM

Raat pohalei shokal.

And the morning brings end of a long wait.
Can't wait any longer.

simon · #**148** November 12, 2012, 03:09 PM

cant wait to hear ATA uncle & Shamim kakku after ages

bd fan · #**149** November 12, 2012, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
I don't see the point of playing both Naeem and Mahmudullah either. Going by:

a) Recent form in Tests/FC
b) Combination

I don't see how Mahmudullah gets in. It's obvious he's an auto-choice because of his Vice Captaincy, which is sad. Yes, Nafees and Zunaed are generally useless too, but at least they are riding on the back of a couple of big scores and are top order batsmen, which means they are not in direct competition with the VC.

I don't think we need eight batsmen. Nasir is playing primarily as a batsman and making him come in at #8 is a waste. If we must, he should bat at #7, but no lower. I have no problems with Gazi's inclusion, but I think we can play both him and Elias. I get the LHB argument, but Elias has been successful against LHBs in the past too. If he and Shohag are indeed as good with the bat as everyone claims, then we should have no issues playing seven batsmen.

Shakib should be reprieved - bowling 50 overs can't be good for his knee. The Elias-Shakib-Gazi combo would have been ideal, because without Elias, we're effectively playing 2.5 bowlers, if I may be so generous as to assign a 0.5 to our pacers combined.

But this isn't the final line-up, so we'll see how it goes tonight. Can't wait.

Mahmudullah should not be in the team and Nasir should bat up the order

RazabQ · #**150** November 12, 2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
If that is true, what has Elias done to get chopped?

Elias hasn't invested in a decent anti-prespirant for his sweaty palms! Plus we have leftie juju