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Old November 19, 2017, 07:14 PM
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is there any video of hossain Ali? Never seen him bowl.
His small wiry, but quick, apart from that he's not shown anything in terms of line and length, bounce, tricks, can hit 140, reminds me of tapash, not even ready for A team yet.
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Old November 19, 2017, 07:21 PM
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Taskin should try out being a Bangla film actor. He has got the height, the questionable dress sense, and can bust some desi moves.
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Old November 19, 2017, 07:22 PM
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His small wiry, but quick, apart from that he's not shown anything in terms of line and length, bounce, tricks, can hit 140, reminds me of tapash, not even ready for A team yet.
That's a good comparison, ie with Tapash - similar height, pace, action, and lack of control.
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Old November 19, 2017, 08:04 PM
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Tapash was a 135 kph bowler from what I remember. He carried the seam bowling until Syed Rasel came to the scene and Mash was able to stay fit long enough to play more than 1 series at a time.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:07 PM
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Taskin's main role in the team (LOI) is that he is a death over bowler. So, Hossain Ali or even AH Rony is not really his competitor. His possible replacement can be either Saifuddin, AA, or Abul.

A swing bowler like Rony has to be accommodated in place of Mash.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:22 PM
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... I don't know.... right now Taskin is good for nothing...

Rubel can also bowl for some good death overs but not consistent.

But what we need is someone who can bowl full 10 overs/4 overs of good consistent bowling.

Right now I would rather see some new blood trying to do the job .... don't care who it is ...in my mind right now if we give extended time to Saifuddin and Rony (for example), they would do a better job than Taskin and co.

Also I think Shubhashish deserve more chance right now in TEST.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:32 PM
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Taskin's main role in the team (LOI) is that he is a death over bowler. So, Hossain Ali or even AH Rony is not really his competitor. His possible replacement can be either Saifuddin, AA, or Abul.

A swing bowler like Rony has to be accommodated in place of Mash.
Fizz and Rubel have death bowling covered. They are decent at that job. Rony - if he can actually swing it - would take the new ball.

We also need to look for bowlers who can hold a bat.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:54 PM
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For an aggressive pitch-it-up bowler like Rony, we will need someone who can keep things tight on the other end. It can be Fizz or even Miraz (who is doing well with the new ball nowadays).

Rony-Fizz-Rubel-Miraz/Saifuddin combined with Shak give us more flexibility as well as attacking options. Taskin will have to re-evaluate his role in the team. Mash is becoming redundant and needs to figure out when to say goodbye.
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Old November 19, 2017, 10:59 PM
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Mashrafe still has a lot to offer though. He is the most successful BD bowler since 2015 (Cricinfo). Granted Fizz played less than him due to injuries, Mash still has done better than Taskin and Rubel.

I would go with Mash-Rony-Rubel-Fizz for now.
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Old November 19, 2017, 11:32 PM
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Here are our away ODI bowling stats for last two years: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

IMO, average of 55 is simply horrible. Inclusion of Mash means we have less attacking options and variety. Keeping WC'19 in mind, I rather bring in Rony and keep Miraz. The Tri-Series in January should be the farewell series for Mash.
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Old November 19, 2017, 11:46 PM
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Here are our away ODI bowling stats for last two years: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

IMO, average of 55 is simply horrible. Inclusion of Mash means we have less attacking options and variety. Keeping WC'19 in mind, I rather bring in Rony and keep Miraz. The Tri-Series in January should be the farewell series for Mash.
Yes. You forgot to exclude two filters

Now, Mash is still the best bowler. Shakib's bowling record is even worse. but he gets a free pass right?
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Old November 19, 2017, 11:51 PM
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However, Mash has been very ineffective since Champions trophy. This is definitely a big concern. what is the guarantee that his successor will do any worse? Saifuddin leaked 46 runs in 5 overs in the only ODI he played.
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Old November 20, 2017, 12:10 AM
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Yes. You forgot to exclude two filters

Now, Mash is still the best bowler. Shakib's bowling record is even worse. but he gets a free pass right?
Mash is at the top of the list because he played more matches and bowled more overs than Fizz or Taskin, if that's what you talking about. He is still more economical than Rubel or Taskin, but his SR sucks so badly that his average is still way worse than those two. He hardly gives early breakthroughs now, and horrible at death as ever. His better economy is also a result of his not bowling at death, responsibility that he generally dumps on his junior teammates. Miraz or even Mosaddek can take up his role to check runs before death overs.

As for Shakib, he will be in the team as a batsman alone, thus will be the fifth bowler by default, even though he sucks too away from home.
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Old November 20, 2017, 12:48 AM
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Saifuddin leaked 46 runs in 5 overs in the only ODI he played.
That can happen to anyone facing guys like ABD on flat tracks. Plus it was Saifuddin's debut ODI.

He is currently doing a fine job bowling at death for CoV. His performance in this regard is often better than his more experienced partner AA, which is a very encouraging sign!
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Old November 25, 2017, 04:32 PM
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As per Mash, Taskin was struggling to grip the wet ball, thus opted not to ball yorker. Perhaps he needs to work on his grip?

Rubel was saying the other day how Malinga uses a different grip for yorkers.
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Old November 25, 2017, 10:18 PM
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Mashrafe still has a lot to offer though. He is the most successful BD bowler since 2015 (Cricinfo). Granted Fizz played less than him due to injuries, Mash still has done better than Taskin and Rubel.

I would go with Mash-Rony-Rubel-Fizz for now.
If he keeps hiding behind his rookie bowlers like he has been for last couple of years then he'll always remain as the most successful BD bowler.

He should play till 2030 along with his buddy taskin.
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Old November 25, 2017, 11:04 PM
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If he keeps hiding behind his rookie bowlers like he has been for last couple of years then he'll always remain as the most successful BD bowler.

He should play till 2030 along with his buddy taskin.
Don't spew bullshit without doing your research. Mash has bowled the highest amount of overs compared to other fast bowlers(Fizz, Rubel, Taskin, Shafiul) in the last 2 years. He also has more wickets than all of them and has better average and economy than all of them except Fizz.

So much for 'hiding'.

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Old November 26, 2017, 02:18 AM
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Don't spew bullshit without doing your research. Mash has bowled the highest amount of overs compared to other fast bowlers(Fizz, Rubel, Taskin, Shafiul) in the last 2 years. He also has more wickets than all of them and has better average and economy than all of them except Fizz.

So much for 'hiding'.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

Buddy, first try to understand what I've said in my previous post, then call it a bullshit or whatever.

Don't worry. If mash keeps hiding during death overs or whenever the opposition batters get on top, his economy rate will go down even further. Obviously he's doing a great job in that department.


Mash is a good bowler, no doubt. But he's finished now. He walks Like a weak and tired man on the field, a terrible, terrible fielder and a rubbish batsman. Any other half decent team would've dropped him a long ago.
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Buddy, first try to understand what I've said in my previous post, then call it a bullshit or whatever.

Don't worry. If mash keeps hiding during death overs or whenever the opposition batters get on top, his economy rate will go down even further. Obviously he's doing a great job in that department.


Mash is a good bowler, no doubt. But he's finished now. He walks Like a weak and tired man on the field, a terrible, terrible fielder and a rubbish batsman. Any other half decent team would've dropped him a long ago.
he was never a death over bowler, he always sucked in death overs even in his pre-injury days. not all of your bowlers need to be death over bowlers.
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he was never a death over bowler, he always sucked in death overs even in his pre-injury days. not all of your bowlers need to be death over bowlers.
As per his suggestion, every good bowler will bowl in death.

There will be no one to bowl the first half of the match. BD will straight away start bowling from 40th over.
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Old November 26, 2017, 08:14 AM
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As per Mash, Taskin was struggling to grip the wet ball, thus opted not to ball yorker. Perhaps he needs to work on his grip?

Rubel was saying the other day how Malinga uses a different grip for yorkers.
it was the conditions, perrera said it after their bowling innings, said it was becoming very difficult to hold the ball towards the end and he was very confident it was a easy chase because of the dew.

As for taskins performance, barring the last ball he bowled rather well in the match, his style is perfect for Gayle and McCullum to bat against, 140ish with good bounce, they dominate those bowlers, Gayle and McCullum struggle with slower bowlers, or if you're quick you better be 145+ every time

Malinga will past it obviously, but he was the master at yorkers, his action is too different for someone like taskin to emulate, but Rubel can, he's already got good yorkers, he can take it to a level above if he can take on board tips of Malinga

His pace has dropped off though after injury Rubel needs to get back to atleast 140
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From my twitter account: www.twitter.com/bangla13c

Taskin Ahmed's economy rate in Bangladesh Premier League

BPL 2015/2016: 8.52 runs per over
BPL 2016/2017: 8.11 runs per over
BPL 2017/2018: 9.79 runs per over (As of today, 25th November, 2017)

That equates to an average of 8.80 runs per over last three season (third being this season)

Crazy....
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Old November 26, 2017, 12:41 PM
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Taskin Ahmed's economy rate in Bangladesh Premier League

BPL 2015/2016: 8.52 runs per over
BPL 2016/2017: 8.11 runs per over
BPL 2017/2018: 9.79 runs per over (As of today, 25th November, 2017)

That equates to an average of 8.80 runs per over last three season (third being this season)

Crazy....
Not good enough, he needs to bring it down to 8 and that's whilst remaining an attacking bowler

Also if you could, can you provide a comparison with Rubel, as he's the bowler who gets given same overs as taskin usually
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Wtv happened to Abu Haider Roni? How has he done so far? His bowling looked lethal during one of the bpl season, out of the picture now?
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Old November 26, 2017, 01:40 PM
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Wtv happened to Abu Haider Roni? How has he done so far? His bowling looked lethal during one of the bpl season, out of the picture now?
He has taken 11 wicket so far with an economy rate of 6.62
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