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Old June 11, 2005, 08:50 AM
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Default TigerFan banned?

just curious to know the reason
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Old June 11, 2005, 09:50 AM
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Yes, for indefinite period.
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Old June 11, 2005, 09:55 AM
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Yes, for indefinite period.
"pleasantly" surprised at the response. Was expecting this thread to disappear....

anyways, I have a huge problem.. I gotta bug in my room.. can't get it out.. Janla khulchi, arekta dhukche.. ki jala...
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Old June 11, 2005, 10:33 AM
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Tell bug to stop bugging you! Or give it ani-Bug Medication
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Old June 11, 2005, 12:34 PM
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I'm curious to know the exact reason. Few days ago, he got a "strike one" from Zunaid bhai, and now he's gone!

(p.s: simply curious, have no intention to create flame war)
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Old June 11, 2005, 12:44 PM
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He actually had gotten 2 strikes before the final infraction. Essentially, even after repeated warnings, if members keep violating forum rules, we have no recourse but to take the extreme step in order to maintain the quality of the forum.

The end goal of the forum guidelines is to ensure that these forums are a pleasant place for people to engage in discussions and debates. We are trying our level best to make this a welcoming place for Bangladesh cricket fans of all types. And trying very hard to ensure that the forums do not degrade the way many forums do - endless flamewars, personal attacks and just plain filth.

Of late, there has been an increase in the noise to signal ratio on the forums. While these are all signs of growing pains (we have quadrupled in size in the last year or so), but that does not mean we give up and turn tail. As volunteers and fans we do what we think is right. We may not always do the right thing (we are not infallible you know), or even the most popular thing - but we do have the best intentions.

Consider some of the "strikes" I have assigned recently

- Blatant vulgar sexual inneuendos
- Personal attacks on other members
- Repeatedly posting oneliners devoid of content
- Racist attacks - you can scream at someone from a country, but just don't tar the entire nation with the brush of hate

Edited on, June 11, 2005, 7:12 PM GMT, by Zunaid.
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Old June 11, 2005, 12:55 PM
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He was warned many many times and even temporarily banned for a month before the strike one you mentioned.

He is an abuser of our forget cricket section by relentlessly posting certain type of news with particular agenda and that even from particular websites. He continued to do so ignoring our requests.

Banglacricket is neither a religious preaching/teaching site nor any political flag bearer. We created the Forget Cricket section for casual, brief escape from cricket, but no way it is meant to support or propagate any particular view, religious, political or otherwise. And in absolutely no way, we want that section, or any other section for that matter, to take the focus away from the main theme we solely stand for.

That member was also warned both publicly and privately for other reasons as well including personal attacks. Ban is an extreme measure. We exhausted other avenues before resorting to such harsh treatment.
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Old June 11, 2005, 01:32 PM
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Ooh! I must be careful !
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Old June 11, 2005, 02:03 PM
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Banglacricket is neither a religious preaching/teaching site nor any political flag bearer. We created the Forget Cricket section for casual, brief escape from cricket, but no way it is meant to support or propagate any particular view, religious, political or otherwise.
Glad to hear that. There are certainly other members who have taken it upon themselves to constantly preach their religious viewpoints. This is not Sunday school, if there are some threads on religious issues that's fine, but the behavior that is objectionable is when a particular poster is incapable of posting on anything but one topic. Zunaid should add "religious bigotry" to his list of unacceptable behavior - and if that was enforced I dare say there would be a few more bans and warnings, perhaps even extending to some of our more illustrious and older members.
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Old June 11, 2005, 02:05 PM
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To add to Z bhai's excellent explanation, I want to clafiry that TigerFan was NOT banned because he espoused a particular religious sentiment; but rather because he did so with a belligerant attitude, with comments such as "bit me" (sic) towards those who disagreed with him. You will notice Dawa.Tabligh is also of an uber-religious mindset but because he chooses to conduct his dialogue in a constructive manner, he has not run afoul of the mods.

Therefore in addition to the bullets Z bhai has mentioned, let me add one more. Strikes are NOT given
- Just because you are a religious/atheist/pro-india/pro-paki person.
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Old June 11, 2005, 02:20 PM
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People shouldn't be banned because they are orthodox or atheist or nationalist or communist or whatever. The point I was trying to makei is there are tons of posts nowadays where postions taken are downright offensive, because those posters try to intimidate other members with their tone and theie mind-numbing volume. I am interested in human rights. Now, if I posted about human rights abuses in Bangladesh every friggin day, I should be warned as well.

There's a point in there somewhere.
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Old June 11, 2005, 02:21 PM
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This may yet turn out to be a meta discussion on where one draws the line between faith and bigotry. Tough call this. It is almost like the US and First Amendment rights as it relates to obscene speech and pornography.

The First Amendment does not give a blanket right - there are many unprotected or unregulated speech such as those that may result in clear and imminent danger/lawlessness, libel/slander, obsscentiy etc.

The US Supreme Court has ruled that "obscene speech" is unprotected speech - that is, it does not enjoy First Amendment protection and may even be liable to criminal action.

In 1964, Justice Potter Stewart Justice Potter Stewart wrote in Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964), "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it..."

http://www.aegis.com/law/SCt/Decisio.../378US184.html
U.S. Supreme Court
JACOBELLIS v. OHIO, 378 U.S. 184 (1964)
APPEAL FROM THE SUPREME COURT OF OHIO. No. 11.
Argued March 26, 1963. Restored to the calendar for reargument April
29, 1963. Reargued April 1, 1964.
Decided June 22, 1964.

Edited on, June 11, 2005, 7:26 PM GMT, by Zunaid.
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Old June 13, 2005, 09:32 AM
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So we have Judges also in BC?

Do we have an appeal-court and can they appeal? Or its martial-law type of court?

I hope its not RAB style simplified method: convict, capture and eliminate.

Its nice to know the process and our rights. You never know, this info can be handy in future.
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Old June 13, 2005, 10:07 AM
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The key word is communication. Once a member is banned, he can follow one of the two basic paths.

1. Get on his life away from banglacricket.

2. Recognize the mistakes, be contrite and ask for reconsideration. We'll reconsider such request and may temporarily lift the ban, if we are convinced enough, to see the progress if any.

You just can't ignore moderator's request and continue to do as you wish. Remember, we do not moderate opinion but how the opinion is expressed.

We believe our guideline is reasonable and should not be hard to follow.

BTW, in most cases, we warned the member of the ban in advance in a last bid to convince him to respect our guideline.

Hope this helps.
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Old June 13, 2005, 10:38 AM
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Well, I do agree with everything that the moderators say or do! But all I request is for them to be fair and treat every member equally.
Yes, I have received one strike already, sadly coz I just lost control and I admit my mistakes. But the same day, somebody used an offensive word, which street urchins uses in BD and nobody said anything.
So all I request from the mods is consistency- that is all.
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Old June 13, 2005, 10:52 AM
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Do we have an appeal-court and can they appeal? Or its martial-law type of court?
Talking about appeal, it incites an interesting (to me at least) idea. As many has opined at many places, in specific stages of different heated discussions in this forum, that most of the discussions serves almost solely as a source of polemic amusements for the participants (not to mention sadism is an expected form of amusement).

How about a dedicated forum for offenders to appeal and defend themselves by being engaged in ever-so-attractive courtroom debates? To keep it from exploding, the participants may be limited to the appelant and mods assigned with the proceedings of the petition. Even some 'distinguished' members who have earned the appreciation of the mods as juristically sound may be authorized to participate.

The reason it looks interesting to me is that, an individual often adopts the path of verbal abuse, when s/he cannot properly express or appreciate what is actually going on inside him/her. Heated counter-attack from the fellow-members often aggravate the situation and as we tend to put it: further freaks him off. And even though the warnings from the mods are, by all means, well-intended, with the current state of his/her mind they (the warnings) may tick him/her off on either side of the vertex. Which is why free-association or church-confession is known for their own level of efficacy in purgating offenders' mind.

This semi-public purgation process, in addition with helping out the appelant (if at all), may lead us to interesting revelations about 'offender's mind' or at the least entertain a different way of polemic amusement.
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Old June 13, 2005, 10:53 AM
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We like to be as fair as humanly possible. At times some odd things may escape us. Yet other times we take different strategies to different members. We also need your help to report us the offensive matters.

Please remember, it is not our intention to give away warnings or strikes. Our sole intention is to keep the forum as pleasant as possible. We want our members to enjoy the forum and not to leave it with a bitter taste. We have enough of that directly from the field

We do understand that at times a member may use a loose comment but we neither want it to be a norm nor do we want it to be a reference of encouragement for others.

Now, for a change, what would you consider to do to make the forum even better if you were the moderator?
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Old June 13, 2005, 11:01 AM
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How about a dedicated forum for offenders to appeal and defend themselves by being engaged in ever-so-attractive courtroom debates?
Interesting idea but next to impossible with limited resources. However, any one can defend or explain anytime to a mod of his choice privately, as I said earlier. And we are open to reconsider.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:54 AM
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chinaman bhai, what do you have to do to be a webmaster or moderator?? or even banglacricket staff ??
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Old June 22, 2005, 01:02 AM
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Now, for a change, what would you consider to do to make the forum even better if you were the moderator?
first of all, ban the current staff team. they are all losers.

then invite amit, mb444 and mba to join my team. just under seven days, we, together, will take BC to unimaginable heights.
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Old June 22, 2005, 01:55 AM
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You can't do that witout me in your team



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