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Old March 19, 2015, 10:06 AM
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In your dreams pal. That boundaries are so flimsy even slight touch will give a distinct movement. He was atleast an inch inside. 100% out.
What a looser..
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Old March 19, 2015, 10:45 AM
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In your dreams pal. That boundaries are so flimsy even slight touch will give a distinct movement. He was atleast an inch inside. 100% out.
I also think he was out, however what p1ssed everyone off his how quickly the thrid umpire took his time to make the decision. If the tables were turned, for a bigger country the process would have taken more time before they gave that decision.
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:06 AM
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Toadys no ball verdict for "above the waist" delivery was a very bad and a game-changing one. India would have been in a big trouble had this been given out. It gave momentum to Rohit and Raina and , probably, resulted in them scoring 40 - 50 extra runs at the end. So, this very poor decision has had a huge influence on the game. Why didn't the umpires ask the 3rd umpire to make sure? We have the technology available!

What I was really more puzzled about was the game before (Eng v Ban) where umpire Billy checked not once but THRICE for "no-balls" when Rubel took those English wickets! Had this been the other way around would 'Billy the ICC umpire' done the same? I highly doubt it! Everything has been done to ensure a safe passage for the "BIG" 3 to the QF -even the choices of the venues!
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
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Toadys no ball verdict for "above the waist" delivery was a very bad and a game-changing one. India would have been in a big trouble had this been given out. It gave momentum to Rohit and Raina and , probably, resulted in them scoring 40 - 50 extra runs at the end. So, this very poor decision has had a huge influence on the game. Why didn't the umpires ask the 3rd umpire to make sure? We have the technology available!

What I was really more puzzled about was the game before (Eng v Ban) where umpire Billy checked not once but THRICE for "no-balls" when Rubel took those English wickets! Had this been the other way around would 'Billy the ICC umpire' done the same? I highly doubt it! Everything has been done to ensure a safe passage for the "BIG" 3 to the QF -even the choices of the venues!
That you don't know> Dhoni might have come in early get his eye in and would have gone berserk in the last few overs. Today he came too late. We might have scored more than 300.. Also Jadeja was striking the ball well. 40 to 50 runs extra is your imagination. Also there is no telling how Raina would have played later.. Probably would have stayed for last few overs. What about the byes that should have been called wide.. India lost an extra ball and an extra run. Keyes got a life. This decision probably impacted like 0.5% lol. India is too good for BD.. That is 99.5%.
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:33 AM
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Toadys no ball verdict for "above the waist" delivery was a very bad and a game-changing one. India would have been in a big trouble had this been given out. It gave momentum to Rohit and Raina and , probably, resulted in them scoring 40 - 50 extra runs at the end. So, this very poor decision has had a huge influence on the game. Why didn't the umpires ask the 3rd umpire to make sure? We have the technology available!

What I was really more puzzled about was the game before (Eng v Ban) where umpire Billy checked not once but THRICE for "no-balls" when Rubel took those English wickets! Had this been the other way around would 'Billy the ICC umpire' done the same? I highly doubt it! Everything has been done to ensure a safe passage for the "BIG" 3 to the QF -even the choices of the venues!
Rohit scored 45 off 25 after that, and his replacement could have scored run-a-ball 20-25 at worst case. Almost 20-25 runs went away with that - worst case. Of course best case Sir Jadeja would have scored same runs

If you are really interested, you can run D/L with change in par score will tell you the exact impact.
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:37 AM
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Kayes got a life? You know you have to appeal first. If the keeper and bowler don't appeal then how is the umpire in the equation.
I'm ready to accept Dhawan's word that he didn't touch the rope. And Ammar's nailed it in that it was poor shot execution by Riyadh. But, why was there a rush on that call? Why didn't we hear the 3rd umpire communication and multiple angles? After the Zim/Ireland situation you'd have thought broadcasters and umpires would want to absolutely make sure there is no controversy.

Look up Michael Jordan calls in the NBA. Team India is the Michael Jordan of cricket.
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:48 AM
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Bad calls happen. Especially against "minor" sides vs "major" sides. Unfair, but that is life. You rise up and overcome if and when you can.

India *cheated* in 2012 Asia Cup - Shakib stumping was not out, yet local 3rd umpire gave it out. Can't blame that on BCCI cuz our local 3rd umpires routinely favor the opponent to get ahead in their personal careers.

This game, Dhawan got benefit of doubt, I saw the replays and there was NO definitive evidence he touched the rope. Mooney's was clearer. I'm fine with the dismissal.

Rohit lbw was unfortunate, could have been given out or not out. Closest 50-50 if ever there was one. But that is umpire's call and in the margin of error for the technology, so again I have no complaints. Same with ZIM's lbw of Gayle when he hit that double ton. Umpire's decision is the error margin and thus both Gayle and Rohit reprieves were A OK.

Yes, those calls would probably go in favor of India had the tables been turned, but that is a seperate issue. In this game, those 2 calls, can't be cited as evidence of India cheating.

Plus we lost by a pretty large margin.
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Old March 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
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We played poor in most cases today. But umpire's decisions didn't help us either. Now that the other team won, they are toning down the umpire's decision 'cause it's mostly favored them. Oh boy, if opposite would have happened then there would've been a big noise of complains starting from their captain to players to fans to their cricket board. To the winner of today's game, enjoy the power while it lasts. One must remember, whatever goes up has to come down...if not today, then some other day.
Also, umpires need to grow a pair.
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Old September 28, 2016, 07:52 AM
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Our own Bangladeshi umpires are continuously giving wrong decisions against us. One decision last match, two decisions today.

All are absolutely wrong LBW decisions.
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Old September 28, 2016, 08:05 AM
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some shocking shocking decisions today... against afghans too...
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Old September 28, 2016, 08:05 AM
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Our own Bangladeshi umpires are continuously giving wrong decisions against us. One decision last match, two decisions today.

All are absolutely wrong LBW decisions.
Clearly the BCCI has a hand in these shocking decisions.
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Old September 28, 2016, 08:09 AM
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Clearly the BCCI has a hand in these shocking decisions.
Don't insult yourself unnecessarily.
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Old September 28, 2016, 08:11 AM
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Clearly the BCCI has a hand in these shocking decisions.
Why are you trying to start a flame-war
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Old September 28, 2016, 08:11 AM
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some shocking shocking decisions today... against afghans too...
Bangladeshi umpires scare me these days. It is not about bias, it is about incompetence.
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Old September 28, 2016, 10:32 AM
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So we have stooped so low that we need to complain about umpiring howlers?

No denying umpires are incompetent, but I wished we could win matches against minnows even with howlers and luck going against us
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Old September 28, 2016, 10:35 AM
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Exactly. Hala, 200 kortey kotay against Associate team and then complaining about umpiring.
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Old September 28, 2016, 12:55 PM
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yes.... its not bad umpiring that stole the game from us.... its well executed opponent and our bad batting ( and bad bowling by our two FBs) that cost us a game today.
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Old September 28, 2016, 03:06 PM
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fazal - don't let Taijul have a pass. He didn't beat the batsmen even once.
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Old September 28, 2016, 03:33 PM
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Clearly the BCCI has a hand in these shocking decisions.
Thanks for letting us know.
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Old September 28, 2016, 03:57 PM
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Which one is a bad decision and why are they wrong? Cricinfo certainly doesn't think anyone was bad.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...h/1051299.html
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Mohammad Nabi to Shakib Al Hasan, OUT, Nabi has his man now! This was the arm-ball from Nabi, snakes back in. Shakib is neither forward nor back. Rooted to the crease. Nabi beats the inside and pins him bang in front of middle. The finger went up almost instantly. ... Oh, replays pick up a deflection. Did Shakib inside-edged that onto the pad?. No conclusive evidence, however. No. HawkEye in this series

Rashid Khan to Sabbir Rahman, OUT, Sabbir's wicket adds to Bangladesh's slide. Googly, comes in, on a length. The batsman did not read it, attempting a pull and missing. Hits him in line with middle. No snick there

Rashid Khan to Taijul Islam, OUT, appeal for leg before and given. Flipper that holds its line after pitching on leg and middle and Taijul doesn't pick it up. Plays for the turn and misses and is rapped on the pads. That would have hit middle stump flush. Bangladesh briefly looked comfortable with the spinners out of the attack, but a wicket falls immediately after their reintroduction

Rashid Khan to Taskin Ahmed, OUT, plumb again. Flipper again and the batsman doesn't read it. Only question was whether it pitched outside the leg stump, pitches marginally within and raps the batsman on th pads. No question of whether or not it would have hit the stumps. Rashid on a hat-trick
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Shakib Al Hasan to Rahmat Shah, OUT, What a lift for Bangladesh! Much slower through the air and drifts into the right-hander. Arm-ball raps Rahmat on the back pad in line with the stumps. Replays, though, detect an inside snick. Doesn't matter, the finger went up and Rahmat exits for a duck

Mosaddek Hossain to Hashmatullah Shahidi, OUT, and he strikes with his first ball on ODI debut! Tossed up full, no turn, Shahidi plays right back to one he should have been right forward to. Beats the inside edge from round the wicket and pings him on the pad in front of middle

Mashrafe Mortaza to Mohammad Nabi, OUT, Mashrafe removes Nabi, but Afghanistan are ahead. Back of a length and swerves in after pitching outside off, strikes Nabi on the back thigh in front of off. Not sure if that would have hit off or bounced over

Shakib Al Hasan to Rashid Khan, OUT, It's that man again: Shakib! He collects his 100th ODI wicket in Mirpur. Arm-ball, jerks into the right-hander. He is pinned to the crease and is trapped plumb in front of middle. This game is getting tighter. Strap on
As per CI, Bangladesh has got two decisions from umpires.

I'll watch H/L tonight and check it out.
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Which one is a bad decision and why are they wrong? Cricinfo certainly doesn't think anyone was bad.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...h/1051299.html
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On the other hand, here's the Afghanistan one -


As per CI, Bangladesh has got two decisions from umpires.

I'll watch H/L tonight and check it out.


Shakib was a CLEAR inside Edge...maybe Shabbir's too but I am not too sure
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Old September 28, 2016, 05:12 PM
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Shakib was a CLEAR inside Edge...maybe Shabbir's too but I am not too sure
Sorry I have to update the CI commentary, I missed the follow up lines. Added -
Oh, replays pick up a deflection. Did Shakib inside-edged that onto the pad?. No conclusive evidence, however. No. HawkEye in this series

Probably this one had a nick. Shabbir's one doesn't have. I watched the youtube ones ... so both sides got one lucky LBW.
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Old September 28, 2016, 10:03 PM
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I hear two sounds in case of Sabbir, but it could be something else. If referred, Shakib's one would definitely have been not out and Shabiir's one could have gone either way. There's no snicko though ...

Rahmat Shah & Shakib were given out by Bangladeshi umpire. The Indian counterpart raised the finger for Sabbir.
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Old September 28, 2016, 11:18 PM
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Its really hard to see delfection or even heard those minor edges from spinners especially when the crowd is buzzing.
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DRS should be mandatory for BD.
When we play lower rank teams we get incompetent umpires and when we play top ranked teams we get high profile umpires who most likely will give wrong decisions in favor of top rank teams.
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