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Old June 9, 2018, 08:31 PM
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We don't deserve to quality automatically. If by the cut off date we are still at 10, make us qualify. If we can't win against sco/use/etc, stay the fudge home in your free flat that you get for winning a match or two.
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Old June 10, 2018, 03:27 PM
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unless pak take ghush I don't think sco can beat pak. sco doesn't need to win vs pak to overtake us. they have 2 matches each vs ire and ned. t20 ranking predictor shows that if sco wins that 4 match they will be on 71 points. but you are right if sco manages one win vs pak then we are done for
I hope you don't say that England took ghush today to get beaten by Scotland. BTW, England is #1 in ICC ODI ranking. As we've seen in the ODI qualifiers, the gap between top associates and Test teams is not that big anymore. Throw in the home advantage and you can get a close match, especially in T20 format.
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Old June 10, 2018, 03:32 PM
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I hope you don't say that England took ghush today to get beaten by Scotland. BTW, England is #1 in ICC ODI ranking. As we've seen in the ODI qualifiers, the gap between top associates and Test teams is not that big anymore. Throw in the home advantage and you can get a close match, especially in T20 format.
tbh on contrary I think t20 is the format where the gap is huge. not so much in ODIs anymore

I still don't think sco can beat pak but lets see. I hope sco beats pak because I want us to play the qualifiers
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Old June 10, 2018, 03:42 PM
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tbh on contrary I think t20 is the format where the gap is huge. not so much in ODIs anymore

I still don't think sco can beat pak but lets see. I hope sco beats pak because I want us to play the qualifiers
Yeah, this could be true. Associates are still "figuring out" T20 I guess. Scotland's only win against a Test team in T20 was against Bangladesh (2012).

It looks bad that the ODI WC is down to 10 teams just when the teams actually arrived.
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Old June 10, 2018, 05:24 PM
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Thought I would eave this here since we are talking about Scots: http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1...scotland-2018/
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Old June 10, 2018, 07:59 PM
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Time for Bangladesh to play the Scotts.
They the Scotts will put pressure on the table as they should bt Holland and Ireland in a T20 tri series.
Is Bangladesh above Scotland,time to play them and find out.
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Old June 10, 2018, 08:20 PM
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Thought I would eave this here since we are talking about Scots: http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1...scotland-2018/
SCO ODI is significantly better than SCO T20.
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Old June 10, 2018, 11:04 PM
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Scotland Scotland Scotland.
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Old June 11, 2018, 12:42 AM
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A British Isles tour by Bangladesh in order.Maybe even a test.Not an A tour.
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Old June 11, 2018, 05:45 AM
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Most of our current players do not have the mental or physical aptitude to play T20. I think its vital our players play more T20 with lower ranked sides. The way BPL matches are setup with low scoring matches is also counter productive.
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Old June 11, 2018, 09:01 AM
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Why can't BD find a guy who swings the bat like crazy at the opener's slot?

Look at that Shahzad dude? A hack, but a productive one at that.
Even Sunil Narine
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Old June 11, 2018, 12:21 PM
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^ Tamim Iqbal seems to be playing more defensively these days, in the Power Play overs. His strikerate of late has been poor.

I think BD wants Litton Das to take up that power hitter opener mantle and for TI to build his innings around him, but Litton has done poorly so far.
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Old June 11, 2018, 07:22 PM
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scots will be playing their first t20 since Jan 2017 and they are contention for automatic qualification. ICC is truly the worst sports governing body in the world
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Old June 11, 2018, 08:40 PM
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Good, take that automatic qualification away from us. We have no idea what we are doing in T20s and have players that are not suited for this format at all. Until we figure that out, we do not deserve any automatic qualification.
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Old June 11, 2018, 08:44 PM
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T20 is not real cricket
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Old June 12, 2018, 12:10 PM
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PAK vs PAK going on
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Old June 12, 2018, 12:21 PM
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Seems like Ireland is also going to face defeat against PAK in the other match
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Old June 12, 2018, 12:23 PM
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T20 is not real cricket
I absolutely totally agree with you, akle!
If anyone wants to complain about the traditional game of cricket being TOO long, then don't watch it or play it. The whole concept of the game of cricket is about time and patience. it is a game of push and pull. it is a game about nerve, 'patience' and experience, just as it is about athleticism, skill and physical attribute. When it comes to calm and patience, cricket has a reflection similar to the game of chess.

Also, in my point of view, cricket should never have been cut short with limited overs. ODI can be accepted and tolerated to a certain extent. There should NEVER have any place for colorful attire/clothing in cricket - and cheer-leading? What garbage! I am NOT talking about maintaining a sport in it's purist form, i am talking about preservation - preserving the basic identity of a sport!
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Old June 12, 2018, 12:26 PM
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^That is a great analogy
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Old June 12, 2018, 01:20 PM
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I absolutely totally agree with you, akle!
If anyone wants to complain about the traditional game of cricket being TOO long, then don't watch it or play it. The whole concept of the game of cricket is about time and patience. it is a game of push and pull. it is a game as about nerve, patience and skill, experience as it it is about athleticism. About calm and patience, cricket has a reflection similar to the game of chess.

Also, in my point of view, cricket should never have been cut short with limited overs. ODI can be accepted and tolerated to a certain extent. There should NEVER have any place for colorful attire/clothing in cricket - and cheer-leading? What garbage! I am NOT talking about maintaining a sport in it's purist form, i am talking about preservation - preserving the basic identity of a sport!
You have crafted this so artistically. We've always heard that test cricket is the pinnacle of the game.

I grew up hearing this from my father (RIP), my youth cricket support staff, and the Legendary Tony Cozier (RIP).
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Old June 12, 2018, 01:35 PM
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^That is a great analogy
Thank you, One World bhaiya. I am glad that you thought that.

In cricket, why is test match so important, and most valued and honored?
I believe that it is simply because of the 'draws' as one of the three possible outcomes/results of a test match.
a. you or your opponent can win or lose,
b. a match can be abandoned, have 'no result' under certain circumstances,
or, c. you can have a 'draw'.

In cricket, in a test match or first class cricket(4 day match), you can a snatch a draw from your opponent's strong possible winning position (deny your opponent of a win). And I mean by performance and grit, NOT by the grace of weather/rain/sudden thunder or snow storm, or by 'unusual' or unexpected' bad light, a random riot in the city etc. For a strong winning team to be thrown into a draw by the sheer determination, nerve, skill of the tail-enders or 11th man of the weaker opposition and maybe some luck - is like a lose to the strong team who was expecting and all set, very close to win a night ago! That's why a 'draw' in a test match could also be very interesting, and we hear journalist/cricket writers talking about while reminiscing great drawn matches of the past.

I am also NOT talking about test matches that are just run-fest and get drawn due to no intention or just aimless playing.
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Old June 12, 2018, 02:35 PM
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you know I have come to agree with this some what after all these years.
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Old June 13, 2018, 08:17 PM
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We do love test cricket, no two ways about it.
But with attention spans being what they are. Keeping a majority of TVs tuned into the same channel or a phone/pc on the match url is a challenge. Its a challenge in a 50 over game, more so in a 5 day game. Ad revenues drive the telecast and modern tech has made it easy to track how many are watching. Short attention spans contributed to the rise of 50 and 20 over cricket. This is what the ad pushers are after. Money makes the world go round.

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Old June 13, 2018, 08:19 PM
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Test cricket caters to a very niche martket, the stark reality is some of us don't have time, to waste hours watching teams score at a RPO of 3.0 or take wickets every 50-30 overs.
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Old June 13, 2018, 08:24 PM
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The only downside to not qualifying automatically is that when we play qualifiers, and Tamim scores a 100 against Oman or Neapl, half of you will declare him the greatest player ever
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