2020 US Presidential Election Thread

[Yankees]

Originally Posted by Fazal


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Koto Auga Moga Shoga is running the primary, what's preventing her running the election?

there is an age limit of 35. AOC is still in her 20s.

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by Yankees
there is an age limit of 35. AOC is still in her 20s.

She is in her 20s? Hmmm. She looks much older, may this The Green New Deal is aging her too quickly.



How come there is no upper age limit?


Trump, Hillary, Bernie, Biden ( and Regan in the past) are all too old for my taste to run for President.

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by Fazal
She is in her 20s? Hmmm. She looks much older, may this The Green New Deal is aging her too quickly.

How come there is no upper age limit?

Trump, Hillary, Bernie, Biden ( and Regan in the past) are all too old for my taste to run for President.

Bernie actually never wanted to run for President. In 2016, he was begging Warren and few other democrats to run against Hillary and champion his progressive ideas. No one responded to his call. So he himself stepped up without much expectation, caught fire, and actually beat Clinton, but DNC cheated and denied him the nomination.

He was ready to pass down the baton to the next generation, but unfortunately, there is no single old enough politician who is truly committed to the ideas Bernie is pushing forward. Crooked Kamala (aka Demon Devi), Choker grandstand Booker, Beta O Dork, Pesky Pete, and even Pocahontas to some extent - they are FAKE progressives and wolves in sheep's clothing. So Bernie has no option but give it another try.

Do you think the fella wants to work so hard and run across the country at 77? Yes,when you are running for President of the United States, undeniably there will be some elements of self aggrandizement, but honestly, it is present in least amount in Bernie Sanders. His campaign slogan reflects it: Not me. Us.

[Roey Haque]

Dems will keep picking the wrong one, and lose from here on out. In 2016, picked Clinton, Bernie was the right choice. In 2020, will pick Bernie, while Yang is the right choice.

This commie nudist is not winning in 2020. Might've worked in 2016. People are getting smarter and smarter.

[Night_wolf]

This guy looked 70 even 30 years ago lol

[ToBeFair]

Elizabeth Warren, the FAKE POCAHONTAS, who for years falsely claimed to be of Native American origin, but did not bother to show solidarity with Native Americans when they protested building of oil pipeline through their lands during Obama administration, has now turned down Fox townhall invite in an attempt to take implicit shot her chief adversary Bernie Sanders. Her reason?

I love town halls. I’ve done more than 70 since January, and I’m glad to have a television audience be a part of them. Fox News has invited me to do a town hall, but I’m turning them down—here’s why…
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it's designed to turn us against each other, risking life and death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that's rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

Hate-for-profit works only if there's profit, so Fox News balances a mix of bigotry, racism, and outright lies with enough legit journalism to make the claim to advertisers that it's a reputable news outlet. It's all about dragging in ad money—big ad money.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

But Fox News is struggling as more and more advertisers pull out of their hate-filled space. A Democratic town hall gives the Fox News sales team a way to tell potential sponsors it's safe to buy ads on Fox—no harm to their brand or reputation (spoiler: It's not).
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

Here's one place we can fight back: I won't ask millions of Democratic primary voters to tune into an outlet that profits from racism and hate in order to see our candidates—especially when Fox will make even more money adding our valuable audience to their ratings numbers.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

I'm running a campaign to reach all Americans. I take questions from the press and voters everywhere I go. I've already held town halls in 17 states and Puerto Rico—including WV, OH, GA, UT, TN, TX, CO, MS & AL.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

I've done 57 media avails and 131 interviews, taking over 1,100 questions from press just since January. Fox News is welcome to come to my events just like any other outlet. But a Fox News town hall adds money to the hate-for-profit machine. To which I say: hard pass.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019

Lyin' Liz is simply lying about her reasons: (1) Fox will be fox, whether she goes there for a townhall or not, fox will remain a racist, xenophobic, lie spewing propaganda machine (2) She is a coward - she knows she is a HORRIBLE speaker at townhalls and interviews - her wordy wandering answers will not convince fox viewers - they would rather get bored of her pandering (3) a candidate polling at 5% will have no impact on Fox's ad revenue.

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Dems will keep picking the wrong one, and lose from here on out. In 2016, picked Clinton, Bernie was the right choice. In 2020, will pick Bernie, while Yang is the right choice.

This commie nudist is not winning in 2020. Might've worked in 2016. People are getting smarter and smarter.

I am glad that Roey is back.

I was wondering if you have watched the recent BBC interview of your conservative superhero, logic man, spearhead of battle of ideas, DESTROYER of miserable libs Ben Shapiro.

He was interviewed by a hardcore right wing journalist. Shapiro was asked simple questions - not the softballs he receives at US media, and his outrage and snowflake like breakdown and finally storming out of the interview was SPECTACULAR to say the least. Watched the interview multiple times and every time it feels more entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWLXtA8g5tw

This was long overdue. Ben Shapiro is a complete and total fraud. He has no ideas or original thoughts whatsoever. All he has is right wing talking points. I am glad that he had the "lungi including underwear khuila raikha dise in public" moment finally.

[ToBeFair]

A great analysis of Lyin' Liz's refusal to participate at Fox Townhall:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/05/e...arren-fox-news

FAKE POCAHONTAS = ELITISM

[Fazal]

Looks like Bernie's days are numbered by the arrival of Biden.


Should Bernie quit and endorse Komola Sundori? She is open to hiring older guys as her VP.

[Roey Haque]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
I am glad that Roey is back.

I was wondering if you have watched the recent BBC interview of your conservative superhero, logic man, spearhead of battle of ideas, DESTROYER of miserable libs Ben Shapiro.

He was interviewed by a hardcore right wing journalist. Shapiro was asked simple questions - not the softballs he receives at US media, and his outrage and snowflake like breakdown and finally storming out of the interview was SPECTACULAR to say the least. Watched the interview multiple times and every time it feels more entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWLXtA8g5tw

This was long overdue. Ben Shapiro is a complete and total fraud. He has no ideas or original thoughts whatsoever. All he has is right wing talking points. I am glad that he had the "lungi including underwear khuila raikha dise in public" moment finally.

Yes I did. I watched it even before it went viral. He totally lost the plot. You trigger the left, you don't get triggered by them. But I am sure he will bounce back.

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by Fazal
Looks like Bernie's days are numbered by the arrival of Biden.

First of all: Biden is having a bump because establishment media is puffing him up relentlessly. It would have been believable if Biden were up by 10 points of so, but when polls after polls show that Biden is above 35 to 40 points, it is clear that polls are fishy. If polls are correct and Biden is truly up by 35+ points, you can even suspend the primary and crown Biden right away.

Also it is too early - polls at this point should not be dismissed completely but be taken with a grain of salt. Remember - Bernie closed 50+ points lag against Hillary and beat her.

And if Bernie suspends his campaign, what should the rest of the field do who are polling single digit on average?

Second, if Bernie loses this time, he will be losing because of not swinging and coming down hard on his opponents. Politics is a game of offense. You cannot be nice and win. Period. Especially when you are against establishment who won't give you an inch. You have to attack hard and create outrageous sound bites. Like Bernie should say "America cannot afford a Biden presidency, it would be a DISASTER." He can create sound bites on facts without getting personal, but he is not doing it. It is very depressing.

If Bernie loses, it will be a betrayal to all those who have donated to his campaign. It is good that he has the right ideas, but if he fails to win, which is the most important thing in politics, he will go down in history as "flaccid penis" - nothing wrong physically but of no value in the long run (excuse my language, I can only take so much of Bernie's sissyness )

[Fazal]

"After Obsma, Butt is the next great candidate" Brit Hume

[ToBeFair]

(FAKE) Bidenmentun started to flame out - Bernie is coming

Biden, Sanders tied atop new Iowa poll

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Yes I did. I watched it even before it went viral. He totally lost the plot. You trigger the left, you don't get triggered by them. But I am sure he will bounce back.

Do you know who get triggered? Not the left or the right but those who only have flimsy talking points and no solid arguments and reasonings.

In US media, Ben Shapiro is constantly cajoled with soft balls and he is never asked a critical question or a follow up. He is never challenged. He is used to his safe space. The moment he stepped outside his bubble and confronted a very mild question, he melted like a pathetic snowflake.

Later in twitter, he gave the excuse of not being prepared, which is a BS excuse. If you have been propagating argument XYZ for years, and later asked about it in an interview, you should be able to defend those arguments and DESTROY (in Ben's own words) your opponents without any preparation whatsoever. That Ben Shapiro has failed to do that simply proves that his arguments had no intellectual core or basis to begin with.

There is no coming back of Ben Shapiro, unless he first admits that he has been a FRAUD all these years, and thereafter genuinely wants change course from intellectual dishonesty to intellectual honesty and sound reasoning.

[Yankees]

^this schmuck made a career out of attacking those who were unprepared (and not too bright to begin with), and now when its the other way around, he's using it as an excuse. quite rich

[ToBeFair]

No matter how crazy we think Trump is, his instincts when it comes to hitting his political opponents hard are on the spot. He correctly concluded to hit Biden with Crime bill:

“Super Predator was the term associated with the 1994 Crime Bill that Sleepy Joe Biden was so heavily involved in passing. That was a dark period in American History, but has Sleepy Joe apologized? No!” Trump wrote.

In the president’s view, Biden is unelectable as a result.

“Anyone associated with the 1994 Crime Bill will not have a chance of being elected. In particular, African Americans will not be able to vote for you. I, on the other hand, was responsible for Criminal Justice Reform, which had tremendous support, & helped fix the bad 1994 Bill!” Trump concluded.

The tweets were sent back-to-back late Monday afternoon before the president boarded Air Force One and flew to a military base in Anchorage, Alaska. But the broadside was not a one-off. Expect more hammering of Biden on crime as that former vice president works to win his party’s nomination.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...rt_140433.html

[Fazal]

Poll: Biden has 18-point lead on Democratic field, Sanders only other contender in double digits



A Morning Consult poll shows Biden with the support of 38 percent of Democratic primary voters, beating out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), his nearest competitor, who was supported by 20 percent of the respondents.https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ers-only-other

[ToBeFair]

Here is a real, not fake poll:

Joe Biden is the front-runner by every measure — except big crowds

Hillary had same thing happening for her. She was the front runner in every parameter imaginable. She had 99.99999999% probability of beating Donald Trump and winning the white house. She only had one problem - like Biden - her rallies always had sparse crowd.

But according to many erudite democratic strategists, crowd size does not matter at all.

To Biden’s campaign, attendance figures are a meaningless metric. Focusing on crowd size is Trump’s game, it says, an emphasis on style over substance that attempts to turn audience engagement into an argument about the 76-year-old Biden’s energy level.

Crowd size, after all, is an imperfect metric to measure a campaign’s vitality. While it can be a revealing indicator, it still lacks the scientific underpinning of polling or the fixed-dollar figures associated with fundraising. Nor does it account for the judgment of elected and influential Democrats across the country.

Last Saturday, when Biden held a rally for his headquarters’ opening in Philadelphia, his campaign estimated the crowd size was 6,000 — a count that some local observers thought might be generous. One local elected Democrat who supports Biden privately told POLITICO the rally was smaller and less energetic than expected.

The eventfell far short of the size his surrogates predicted in one of the nation’s largest Democratic cities. Just before Biden formally announced his candidacy last month, former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who helped organize a fundraiser for Biden, had loftier expectations.

“He’s enormously popular here,” Rendell, a former Philadelphia mayor, said in a late April interview. “We could get tens and tens of thousands of people … For one rally, I think we could do that.”

The crowd size was similar to what President Barack Obama drew at a 2016 rally for Hillary Clinton at the same venue. As a candidate, however, in April 2008, some 35,000 people flooded Independence Mall to see Obama — before he was the nominee.

Trump — for whom crowd size borders on obsession — seized on Biden’s Philadelphia launch, mocking the former vice president two days later at a rival Pennsylvania speech in which he exaggerated the smallness of the crowd.

“We have thousands of people … look at the thousands and thousands of people we have,” Trump said at a Montoursville rally, for which his campaign declined to release an estimated crowd count. “They said [Biden] had 600 people ... I’d say 150.”

James Carville, one of the masterminds behind Bill Clinton’s campaigns for president, said those criticisms miss an essential point about the kind of no-frills-no-thrills campaign he is running.

“He’s never been a candidate who has run on excitement. He has run on ‘you can trust me. I’m a good guy. My heart is in the right place. I’m human. You know me. I’m well-liked,’” Carville said. “Their theory of the case is people are tired of the circus. And it takes an experienced hand to settle everything down to get us back to some era of sanity.”

To that end, some Democrats say Biden’s sometimes listless crowds aren’t cause for concern, but merely reflective of the part of the electorate backing him: older, middle-of-the-road Democrats who are more likely to turn out to the polls than to boisterous megarallies.

Brian Fallon, former spokesman for Hillary Clinton, said the Biden campaign isn’t going for big crowds and passion and is instead underpinned by “a very pragmatic argument. It’s not an argument designed to electrify. It revolves around electability ... It’s not the type of message that inspires a movement. It’s very practical.”

So much wisdom - hashbo naki kandbo bujhtesi na - totally dumbfounded about how to react on this article.

[ToBeFair]

Biden had his first townhall - here is the report card:

[ToBeFair]

Trump hits Joe Biden from left, like he did to Hillary. He is a stable genius indeed.

[ToBeFair]

Crooked Kamala aka Demon Devi had a townhall recently with MSNBC recently. Her performance was LAME and YAWN to say the least.

[mufi_02]

TBF bhai apni toh middle east theke dekhi bhaloi US politics follow koren. Even the ones that live in US don't care much.

rakhen miya apnar Bernie. eibar mone hoy Biden jitbe. I honestly don't care who comes or goes. It's all the same at the end of the day.

toh dada, apni US niye eto chintito keno?

[Fazal]

Interesting how KKK was created around 1860s to block post war reform by Republican Controlled Government. So its fair to say during their creation, KKK was anti Republican Party.



During the civil war era I am assuming Black (in general) supported Republicans as they are the one who were for abolishing slavery. At some point (around 1930s may be) Democrats attracted black with more favorable policy/plans for blacks.



I was looking at the historical list about KKK affiliation with USA (high profile) politicians I got this Wikipedia link


https:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klu...tates_politics


They gave list of 20 high profile politician (past and present): out of them, 16 were Democrats and 3 Republican and 1 both (David Duke, started political career as Democrats and then switched to Republican). Plus they gave two other US President's name (who were alleged KKK member): One democrat (Trueman), one Republican.



Its a 80% vs 20%. I am stunted that Democrat party has so much dark history from past.

[ToBeFair]

FAKE Pocahontas Lyin' Liz is steadily appearing a bigger threat than Biden for Bernie. And she has now overtaken Bernie in the polls. This is really concerning

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...-polls-1362107

Bernie has run a brilliant campaign so far. They have been working very hard and except for attacking after other candidates, I cannot find any other mistake or misstep from the Bernie camp. The latest from Bernie is major policy speech on Democratic Socialism, where he explained in detail what the term means and how it is related to FDR's proposed second bill of rights.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...sm-fdr-1362539

Despite doing everything right, his poll numbers are going down. Tim Black explains the problems with Liz Warren and why she is a politician and NOT a leader.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cer6UP-8uFw?wmode=opaque

[ToBeFair]

Bernie Sanders nailed it but of course mainstream media is not covering it.



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